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gLockwoRk_

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Seams that the i30 is a bit noise overall, and can't reach the temps from the True Spirit.
I'll give the True Spirit a try, if it doesn't fit, I'll send it back.
On the other hand, I'll save my money on the PSU for sure.
You still suggest the Sea Sonic M12II-520 Bronze 520W ATX? Then I'll go with it and save some money.

The MSI Card requires two 8-pin PCI-Express power connectors. The M12II offers me "1x 8-pin EPS12V, 1x 4/8-pin ATX12V" that are the cabels that I have to use?
 
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lehtv

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Well you might as well get the non modular S12II since you're going to use most cables anyway and your case is spacious. On the other hand, there's a somewhat more energy efficient CM Silent Pro Gold 550W for about the same price as the M12II. I can't find any reviews on it so I'm somewhat hesitant to recommend it, but generalyl speaking Silent Pros are good. Any of these is fine really, S12II being the best value
 

Meghan54

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Your power supply choice, the Seasonic M12II, isn't a bad power supply by any stretch of the imagination. BUT, it is an older design being it is a group regulated design vs. the more modern independent regulated designs out there these days.

My suggestion is to look around for a Seasonic-derived Silver or Gold rated power supply....you're almost assured of getting a more modern power supply design.

Glad to see you dropped the WD Green hd. Almost worthless.
 

lehtv

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Meghan54 said:
My suggestion is to look around for a Seasonic-derived Silver or Gold rated power supply....you're almost assured of getting a more modern power supply design.
Any Seasonic-derived Gold or Silver unit is inevitably going to cost a lot more though, and the higher efficiency would be a bigger bonus than the more modern design. Actually, what IS the benefit of the more modern design?
Meghan54 said:
Glad to see you dropped the WD Green hd. Almost worthless.

Hey! My 4 year old WD Green is still kicking, it's done an admirable job as a media drive. I've also had Windows installed on it, worked fine!
 

gLockwoRk_

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If you both talking about the style of my PSU (didn't understand the whole text) I don't care about how my computer looks inside. If my motherboard thinks my PSU is ugly, it's ok for me.
I'll go with the Sea Sonic M12II-520 Bronze 520W ATX, guess this is ok for me. I guess all cables are enough for my GPU/MoBo/etc.
 

mfenn

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The MSI Card requires two 8-pin PCI-Express power connectors. The M12II offers me "1x 8-pin EPS12V, 1x 4/8-pin ATX12V" that are the cabels that I have to use?

Definitely do NOT try to plug the 8-pin ATX12V into your graphics card. That cable should go to your motherboard.

The M12II 520W has one 6-pin and one 8-pin PCIe power connector, while the GTX 770 has two 8-pin sockets. Luckily the N770 TF comes with a couple of 6-pin to 8-pin adapters.
 

gLockwoRk_

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Definitely do NOT try to plug the 8-pin ATX12V into your graphics card. That cable should go to your motherboard.

The M12II 520W has one 6-pin and one 8-pin PCIe power connector, while the GTX 770 has two 8-pin sockets. Luckily the N770 TF comes with a couple of 6-pin to 8-pin adapters.

Thank you mfenn!
Well before I'll start to build this computer, I go and read the manuals. :(
Better this then plugging the motherboard pin into the GPU!
 

lehtv

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If you both talking about the style of my PSU (didn't understand the whole text) I don't care about how my computer looks inside. If my motherboard thinks my PSU is ugly, it's ok for me.
I'll go with the Sea Sonic M12II-520 Bronze 520W ATX, guess this is ok for me. I guess all cables are enough for my GPU/MoBo/etc.

We were talking about the power supply's internal design i.e. how it's built, not the way it looks :)
 

lehtv

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The M12II 520W has one 6-pin and one 8-pin PCIe power connector, while the GTX 770 has two 8-pin sockets. Luckily the N770 TF comes with a couple of 6-pin to 8-pin adapters.

Wow that's surprising, didn't even think to look that up. Most 7970's that consume the same amount of power as a 770 (190W), are 6+6 or 6+8. And in the GeForce lineup the standard GTX titan (250W) is 6+8.

I guess MSI is just awesome
 
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gLockwoRk_

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And this is how misunderstanding can ruin a whole conversation :)
Thanks for the clarification lehtv. I must look like a idiot right now.
First it seems I want to plug in the ATX cable into the GPU, second I thought you talking about a PSU's appearance.

Again guys, thanks for this massiv support and help. I will recommend this forum to everyone who needs help!

Greetings
 

lehtv

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6 months? I'm pretty sure it's only been a month and a half.

I know I didn't bring these up in my previous comments, but now I would make these changes:

SSD - the 840 has TLC NAND which is not as durable as MLC NAND in terms of write cycles. Although it is debatable if this has practical impact in the usable lifetime of the SSD, I would still change it to Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB

RAM - this is cheaper and as good: G.Skill 8GB

Cooler - Arctic i30 is cheaper, has much longer warranty, and is a bit more compact. The cooling performance is a bit worse but you don't need super high performance cooling

Case - No idea if this is good quality or not. The looks are not for me but if it pleases your eye then I guess that could be a decent choice. I would go for Arc Midi R2

PSU - for that money you could just get a Gold rated Super Flower 550W

Doubt you need an i7

I think it's a decent choice since it fits the budget. There can only be more 8-threaded games in the future. And the OP also uses the PC for streaming which can benefit from the extra threads.
 

gLockwoRk_

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ah lehtv,

woops. sure - 1 month :/ don't know what i thought.
Thank you again for your help.
I'll change the parts.

gLockwoRk_
 

gLockwoRk_

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So i got the PC yesterday.
Everything is working fine.

I did a 3DMark Benchmark yesterday and got about 9850 Points. Did not overclock anything.
Is this a "ok" result?

Is there anything I have to "activate"? In bios or something?
Like hyperthreading or so?

Thank you
 
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Termie

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That's a 3dmark 2011 score, I'm guessing. Can you confirm, and perhaps post a link to the results? That way we can see the breakdown of CPU and GPU scores.
 

Termie

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Looks about right. You'll get a big boost in the Physics Score if you OC the processor, but it's all theoretical, really - you don't need it for gaming performance.

Your GPU performance is almost identical to my OC'd GTX670, just 1/2 percent faster. That would make sense for a reference GTX770, but not so much for yours. It's possible that your GTX770, which comes with a huge factory overclock, isn't boosting all the way up to its target clock. What are the temperatures it's operating at? If you run MSI Afterburner in the background, you should be able to track core clock and temperature during a 3DMark run to see if everything is working as it should.
 

mfenn

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Is there anything I have to "activate"? In bios or something?
Like hyperthreading or so?

Thank you

HT looks good based on the 3DMark system summary. About the only thing you'd potentially need to toggle is setting the SATA controller to AHCI mode. That should be the default on Z87 boards, but it doesn't hurt to check.