what do you think about this idea?

twitchee2

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if apple made OS X or something similar and sell it as OEM software complatable with pc components, would you buy it? i was thinking about this. i personally think apple would make much more money by doin this.
 

Nothinman

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No, I see no reason to buy OS X since free unixes already do everything I need and have a much better UI.
 

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A big benefit to running a Mac system is that the OS is that they program it for the hardware and it is much faster this way because they know exactly how it interacts. When you open the door to the endless array of PC drivers and things to support I bet the OS wouldn't even be worth using unless you could compile it with just what you want
 

Rilex

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
No, I see no reason to buy OS X since free unixes already do everything I need and have a much better UI.

What UIs? KDE/Gnome, surely not. At least, they're not nearly as advanced.
 

Nothinman

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A big benefit to running a Mac system is that the OS is that they program it for the hardware and it is much faster this way because they know exactly how it interacts. When you open the door to the endless array of PC drivers and things to support I bet the OS wouldn't even be worth using unless you could compile it with just what you want

That's what standards are for, i.e. every PCI device has to do X and can do Y optionally. Sometimes the standards get blurry, but in general they work fine. And I've never considered OS X 'fast', I don't think I tried the most recent release but on a friends dual 1Ghz silver G4 it seemed the same or slower than Windows or Linux, definitely not faster.

What UIs? KDE/Gnome, surely not. At least, they're not nearly as advanced.

I guess by advanced you mean limiting? You can't even theme the thing without overwriting files behind the UI's back. But, no I don't use full Gnome or KDE desktops because I hate desktops. But I do prefer the Gnome/GTK2 interface, dialogs, etc to KDE and those in OS X.
 

M00T

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I'd probably download it. I've wanted to run Photoshop and Corel painter natively in *nix for a long time now, however paying for *nix is not logical to me.
 

n0cmonkey

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No. How are they going to make up for the loss in profits they get from hardware sales? Sell it for $500? :roll:
 

hooflung

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Originally posted by: M00T
I'd probably download it. I've wanted to run Photoshop and Corel painter natively in *nix for a long time now, however paying for *nix is not logical to me.


Since when was any *nix synonymous with free? What world do you live on and under what economic system do they use? Because a vast majority of Operating systems that are Unix-like have to give their work away for free because Microsoft Illegally cornholed vendors into ONLY giving Microsoft's Flavor of an Operating System? Because legitimate competition to Unix and Windows, such as BEOS and OS/2 failed? Even Microsoft paid for Unix ( official SCO licensee ) so why are you any better?
 

Platypus

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
A big benefit to running a Mac system is that the OS is that they program it for the hardware and it is much faster this way because they know exactly how it interacts. When you open the door to the endless array of PC drivers and things to support I bet the OS wouldn't even be worth using unless you could compile it with just what you want

That's what standards are for, i.e. every PCI device has to do X and can do Y optionally. Sometimes the standards get blurry, but in general they work fine. And I've never considered OS X 'fast', I don't think I tried the most recent release but on a friends dual 1Ghz silver G4 it seemed the same or slower than Windows or Linux, definitely not faster.

What UIs? KDE/Gnome, surely not. At least, they're not nearly as advanced.

I guess by advanced you mean limiting? You can't even theme the thing without overwriting files behind the UI's back. But, no I don't use full Gnome or KDE desktops because I hate desktops. But I do prefer the Gnome/GTK2 interface, dialogs, etc to KDE and those in OS X.


I guess when you use dual G5's daily the line begins to blur a bit more. :p


 

Nothinman

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I guess when you use dual G5's daily the line begins to blur a bit more.

Everything would probably look blurry after realizing what you shelled out for a dual G5...
 

M00T

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Originally posted by: hooflung
Originally posted by: M00T
I'd probably download it. I've wanted to run Photoshop and Corel painter natively in *nix for a long time now, however paying for *nix is not logical to me.


Since when was any *nix synonymous with free? What world do you live on and under what economic system do they use? Because a vast majority of Operating systems that are Unix-like have to give their work away for free because Microsoft Illegally cornholed vendors into ONLY giving Microsoft's Flavor of an Operating System? Because legitimate competition to Unix and Windows, such as BEOS and OS/2 failed? Even Microsoft paid for Unix ( official SCO licensee ) so why are you any better?

A bit defensive aren't we? Open source isn't about -having- to give code away. It's a choice the programmers make. A lot of them code for pure enjoyment and would like to share their work. With the availability of so many free/good alternatives, where is the sense in paying for a capable OS?

If I were to make a profit from my usage of OSX, I could justify paying. I pointed out the two reasons why I would try out OSX... photoshop and painter. It's not my fault that Corel and Adobe shun the x86 *nix community.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: M00T
A bit defensive aren't we? Open source isn't about -having- to give code away. It's a choice the programmers make. A lot of them code for pure enjoyment and would like to share their work. With the availability of so many free/good alternatives, where is the sense in paying for a capable OS?

Some people like these paywares. OS X is nice (IMO), and worth the small fee to use it.

If I were to make a profit from my usage of OSX, I could justify paying. I pointed out the two reasons why I would try out OSX... photoshop and painter. It's not my fault that Corel and Adobe shun the x86 *nix community.

No, it isn't your fault. But you pirating OS X would be.
 

canadageek

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i would, if the hardware difficulties (already mentioned) wouldn't wreck it:(
BTW, OSX 10.4 is worth approx $150 canadian
 

Nothinman

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Because a vast majority of Operating systems that are Unix-like have to give their work away for free because Microsoft Illegally cornholed vendors into ONLY giving Microsoft's Flavor of an Operating System? Because legitimate competition to Unix and Windows, such as BEOS and OS/2 failed?

Hardly. Most OSS developers don't give a sh!t what MS does, they do what they do because they enjoy it and because they use the software that they make and they'd like it to be freely available to anyone who wants to use it.