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What do you think about IQ scores?

Anarchist420

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Overall, they have a very large correlation with earned income, crime, and marital success but they work best for what they were originally intended for which was to identify the mentally disabled or the geniuses. For those who are in the fat part of the bell curve, their correlations are less obvious half of them are very obviously not geniuses or retarded due to the large range.

Since they are ordinal, per point differences are probably statistically insignificant. However, there is a world of difference between someone who is 70 and someone else who scores 95. The difference between 70 and 74 isnt that big however.

How objective do you think they are? What, if any, problems do you have with them? Do you think the probability that they will be replaced in the future is significant? Why?
 
I think they measure a certain kind of intelligence (mostly logic and symbol processing), but not creativity, common sense, "people smarts" or "street smarts."

They have limited usefulness but I have no problem with them being used within those limits.
 
This is just like the SAT. Utterly useless imho

The SAT is utterly useless?

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I think they measure a certain kind of intelligence (mostly logic and symbol processing), but not creativity, common sense, "people smarts" or "street smarts."

They have limited usefulness but I have no problem with them being used within those limits.

Well said.
 
I think they measure a certain kind of intelligence (mostly logic and symbol processing), but not creativity, common sense, "people smarts" or "street smarts."

They have limited usefulness but I have no problem with them being used within those limits.

Exactly.
 
I've always scored in the 98th percentile (or better) on any given test, and on IQ tests I score between about 130-140, and I'm dumb as shit...and retarded (seriously).

So what does that mean?

I have my own conclusions...
 
I think IQ is just a measure of your ability to problem solve. But I don't really think it's an indicator of future success.
 
+1

IQ is a barometer of measurable intelligence but some people mistake it for a mark of success or status.

Just like athletic ability, social abilities, etc. they're all tools we can use to be successful if used correctly.

Exactly this.

IQ can be seen as a ceiling of sorts, but whether or not you fulfill that has nothing to do with the score. Morals and values, work ethic, environment, luck, etc, etc all play just as large of a role in determining what a person becomes. IQ is just another piece of the puzzle.
 
They are just numbers to measure your potential. Useless if you don't use that potential. Bright enough to be a brain surgeon/rocket scientist/theoretical physicists but wants to be a plumber. 🙁
 
I thought it measured if your a genius or not. Though some people are geniuses with irrelevant or disliked things...like i've known plenty of women who are genius at taking what i said and using my own words, turning it around against me and making me feel like shit even though all i said was how nice a day it was outside. i mean, that's pure genius right there.
 
I thought it measured if your a genius or not. Though some people are geniuses with irrelevant or disliked things...like i've known plenty of women who are genius at taking what i said and using my own words, turning it around against me and making me feel like shit even though all i said was how nice a day it was outside. i mean, that's pure genius right there.
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I'd just agree with the OP. Useful for finding out if you're a total brain or if you have some kind of mental disability. I have scored anywhere from like 110-125 on different ones I'd do online if I was super bored. I think overall, it just indicates how well you are able to have a logical thought process in your brain.
 
Your IQ score accurately reflects your ability to answer question material utilized on the IQ test.

It's really that basic. By necessity the test has to have questions that can be presented in a written format, with multiple choice answers, and takes a reasonable amount of time to complete, and can be easily scored.

In no way can that sufficiently reduce a person's brain power to a single number. Take the questions that give you a sequence of numbers then ask what the next number in the sequence is. I can imagine there are people who can determine a sequence and then give an answer that will be scored as wrong - but they have no opportunity to explain why their answer might also be right. Same with the questions about the next image in a sequence of patterns. It also has an inherent bias in favor of "good test takers" - people who are comfortable taking tests vs. people who get anxious which would hurt their results.

A test of that nature cannot test how well someone can "read" another person, grasp new concepts, instinctively recognize how dangerous a particular situation might be, or countless other "skills" which are valuable in their own way. Look at the savants who have off-the-charts memory in a certain area but cannot function independently in the world (google for Kim Peek) - they have low IQs but in their one specific area they are smarter than 99.999% of the world.

It's probably the best tool available since it's impractical to have someone spend a week with someone 24/7 to evaluate many facets of their intelligence. But results can be overrated.

When I learned my IQ by seeing on my college transcript I laughed to myself because although the number was pretty high, I have always been aware of the many areas where I lack "intelligence" - it's just that those don't get measured on an IQ test.
 
As it's been previously said, SAT & IQ can be used to measure a person's ability. What they do with those abilities is up to them.
 
I don't know my iq which I am sure is low, but I'm even worse at drawing and translating things into art projects. I mean, does anyone know why the **** in my high school foreign language department art projects were required like making phony suit cases and tedious time consuming mosaics that counted two quiz grades and as much as a quarterly test? There were less than 30 quiz weighted grades to average in one marking period, so the mosaic was at least 6.7% of approximately 40% of a credit, but then it could be worth more than that because the letter grades for the exams and the two marking periods were averaged by letter.

My core class teachers in 7th grade considered art, music, computer, and tech as as important as their own classes and it pissed me off because if they had just done a percentage of their own classes rather than a GPA... when it's not even on the report card in middle school... I could've been the "valedictorian" but I got a "C" in art in the 7th grade, I got the highest percentage in pre alg, and my other a range core class grades wouldve averaged out to be the best. Ive always hated GPA because the range is ridiculous and it distorts reality. For example, some people would just make sure they got a 91.5%... so even in school you're taught to get ahead by being lazy. Then half the grade in my Spanish ii class and a significant portion of the grade in each year of Latin was based upon art. They should give students options, but the art should not only not be graded, it should
not even be extra credit in my opinion. Thankfully, my mom just did the non academic stuff for me and since I found it so unreasonable considering that I had a good Spanish I teacher which was in middle school. It's like people who do well on tests and papers are punished when it comes to art and Phys ed if they don't have someone else to do the art and if they don't get a medical waiver for PE for them. I mean, p.e. is separate from health in high school FFS... I know that it may not be considered by post secondary education, but it still shouldnt be allowed to bring your gpa down if you aren't as fortunate as I was.
The electives teachers were really assholes in middle school and I didn't really have many teachers that really gave a damn... at least the number wasn't as high as the number of college professors I had that gave a damn about everyone. In fact, I can't think of any professors at my alma mater that didn't give a damn... is that because college professors can reason better or what? Public secondary and primary school teachers really pissed me off at times, but my college professors didn't do that and I could easily understand the few the times when they were hard asses... it made sense other than a 100 level religion course professor who was good, but he pretty much refused to explain how he graded... then his syllabus says "you don't get any grades, you earn your grades in this course"... I think he meant the opposite because he said I got an "A" participation grade which was 50% weighted, was told I got all of the extra credit, missed like only 3 classes, didn't get less than a 70% on the other 50% of my grade, didn't want to say what an "a" was or even what my participation scores were the whole semester and wound up with b-, with ranges very precisely specified in the syllabus... I don't remember the syllabus saying he reserved the right to change the weights and he never said he was thinking about changing them that I heard of. Perhaps I'm just dumb, but I wasnt the only one pissed off about his refusal to explain.
 
I don't know my iq which I am sure is low, but I'm even worse at drawing and translating things into art projects.

Yeah, if an art project was part of an IQ test, that would have brought me down 30 points. When I was in 2nd grade, I remember crying before going to school one day because that was the day we had to show off our projects to the class, and I knew mine looked like a 3-year-old did it. I would have done anything to not have to be in that class.
 
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