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I spent 6 years in the Navy, I was an Electricians Mate in the Navy Nuclear Program. After my 18 months of training was over I spent 4.5 years stationed on the USS Abraham Lincoln. While at sea (which you almost certainly will be stationed on a ship) you will spend many long hours working, sometimes mind numbingly boring dull and useless work, and then if you manage to do a good job your superior will just take the credit. The food isn't that great, I had four cases of food poisoning while at sea. You will live in cramped quarters, even on a carrier; you will spend time with people who have disgusting self hygeine habits. You will see some of the ugliest women in your life! (uglies join the Navy, cause after 3 months at sea, even these manaties attract male attention). You will see the military waste huge sums of money, spending money on parts/supplies that no one uses just so that they can justify having a high budget (its use it or lose it budget wise) I have seen millions wasted in fraud/abuse while on ship. You will more then likely never marry your fiance or will soon get divorced afterwards, My department had a 90% divorce rate within the first two years of marriage after the spouse went to sea ( yes we kept track and had betting pools on it, ever hear of the term WESTPAC widow?). Your sense of humor will become more dark, cruel the longer you are in, when at sea you will rejoice at the misery of others (cause everyone is miserable at sea). You will lose touch with pop culture, between your deployments and workups at sea, you will spend about 9 to 10 months at sea a year in which you are not stuck in a shipyard.

Now was the Navy a worthwhile experience for me? Yes it was and I would do it again knowing what I know now. However my advice for you is........


JOIN THE AIR FORCE!
 
Scholzpdx said:
dawp said:
ask you GF if she's ok with you being away for months on end.
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That's already taken care of. She's cool with it. Fiancé btw.
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For an experiment, try to only contact her for 3 months using email once per day. No phone calls, web cam, IM or physical meetings. If you are already living together, the experiment will still work.

See how both of you handle that. If neither breaks, then consider it. Otherwise, either give up the Navy or the marriage. The two of you will not be able to handle her being a Navy wife.
 
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Scholzpdx said:
Not everyone lives in the perfect ATOT world of fortunate events. I changed my focus, then was denied student loans. That simple. Going to the Navy will change that.

Also, she can provide for herself, and she most certainly will in most ways still (she will be working), but she certainly deserves better than to be renting out a room in a shared living area like we have now. Maybe a house? :thumbsup:

I'm not worried about infidelity, and that says a lot because I used to be worried with every single woman I have ever been with prior.
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You should be in the military. As they say. "Absence makes the heart grow fonder".....for someone else 😛 As another poster also pointed out. Infidelity/divorce is very high in the military. And as he also said....JOIN THE AIR FORCE 🙂
 
Scholzpdx said:
The U.S. Navy, in particular?

I'm 22, have some college, about to get married, and need to find a good way to pay for school as well as provide for my Fiancé. My health is pretty darn good and I shouldn't have any problems with any intelligence testing...

...but I heard the navy downsized some? I'm not finding hardly anything online about the navy not accepting people in the past few months, but should I not get my hopes up? I'm hoping to use the GI Bill as a way to finish a degree in Microelectronics. However, I don't necessarily need an electronics job while i'm there.

If you have any thoughts, opinions, knowledge or experience about joining the Navy, let them be known. If you are an active member of the Navy, you can PM me if you don't want it to be public.

Thanks in advance :thumbsup:,

-Scholzpdx
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10 years here 87-97

just put my GFs son in and was involved in the entire process.

yes according to the recruiter here things have changed big time..
they are only taking top performers at the HS age. 17-19 is thier target ages.
high SAT and ASVAB scores and no disqualifiers (married, drug use, tattoos, children, LE issues, etc etc..)

In my day the average recruiter put in 30-40 recruit candidates a month..

now its 2..
 
Yes, lots of infidelity in the military. If I were you, I would join the Air Force.

Oh, and think about the "WestPac Wives"...
 
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1989-1995
Carrier assignment if you can get it is best. A lot of the things you see there will be things you will never see again. Things like takeoffs and landings are something you never get tired of. You need to accept a lot of BS and not let it get to you. The military does a lot of things that can make some people go nuts if you have thin skin or try to do things in any way except the way the military does them even if other ways make more sense.

Having a family can be rough on some people and I would not go into the military just for college money. Go into the military for the experience, the travel, the duty, or learning things you can only learn there, but never for the money. The reason I joined is I was from a small rural area, I had not really tried in high school and I didn't have many job prospects. I tested well on the asvab and was offered training in the carriers nuclear area so I jumped on it. I was 17 at the time and it changed my whole life and I would do it again in a minute. For someone straight out of high school with no attachments I think they should definitely give the military a try. It takes those 4-5 years most people take to grow up while in college and shrinks it down to a year.
 
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Malfeas said:
I spent 6 years in the Navy, I was an Electricians Mate in the Navy Nuclear Program. After my 18 months of training was over I spent 4.5 years stationed on the USS Abraham Lincoln. While at sea (which you almost certainly will be stationed on a ship) you will spend many long hours working, sometimes mind numbingly boring dull and useless work, and then if you manage to do a good job your superior will just take the credit. The food isn't that great, I had four cases of food poisoning while at sea. You will live in cramped quarters, even on a carrier; you will spend time with people who have disgusting self hygeine habits. You will see some of the ugliest women in your life! (uglies join the Navy, cause after 3 months at sea, even these manaties attract male attention). You will see the military waste huge sums of money, spending money on parts/supplies that no one uses just so that they can justify having a high budget (its use it or lose it budget wise) I have seen millions wasted in fraud/abuse while on ship. You will more then likely never marry your fiance or will soon get divorced afterwards, My department had a 90% divorce rate within the first two years of marriage after the spouse went to sea ( yes we kept track and had betting pools on it, ever hear of the term WESTPAC widow?). Your sense of humor will become more dark, cruel the longer you are in, when at sea you will rejoice at the misery of others (cause everyone is miserable at sea). You will lose touch with pop culture, between your deployments and workups at sea, you will spend about 9 to 10 months at sea a year in which you are not stuck in a shipyard.

Now was the Navy a worthwhile experience for me? Yes it was and I would do it again knowing what I know now. However my advice for you is........


JOIN THE AIR FORCE!
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😀😀D:
 
4 years in the Navy working on P-3 Orions as an Aviation Electronics Specialist (TRON). I had a great time. Met some lifelong friends. Was single the entire time while I was in, so I did not have any family/wife issues to deal with. I was lucky to be stationed with planes are not attached to any ship in the fleet. As the P-3 fleet seems to be decommisioning, you probably won't get the luck that I had.

My advise to you is this; take a long hard look at the Air Force. If you want great technical training, you should look there. The Navy does a great job in training as well, but if you're going to be married, you don't want to be at sea for 6 months. If your fiancee can provide for herself, wouldn't it be great to sit down for a meal with her each day? Going to college is the same in the Air Force as it is with the Navy. Remember too, that some of your time in the whatever service you join will count toward your degree. So you won't have to do the pre-requisite Humanities class, for example.

I hope you can make a great decision that will affect the rest of your life with the knowledge that all ATOT can bring to this thread.
 
When I was in the Air Force, I was talking to a guy that had been in the Navy and I asked him why he had joined the Navy, he said because he couldn't get into the Air Force.........
 
Sentrosi2121 said:
4 years in the Navy working on P-3 Orions as an Aviation Electronics Specialist (TRON). I had a great time. Met some lifelong friends. Was single the entire time while I was in, so I did not have any family/wife issues to deal with. I was lucky to be stationed with planes are not attached to any ship in the fleet. As the P-3 fleet seems to be decommisioning, you probably won't get the luck that I had.

My advise to you is this; take a long hard look at the Air Force. If you want great technical training, you should look there. The Navy does a great job in training as well, but if you're going to be married, you don't want to be at sea for 6 months. If your fiancee can provide for herself, wouldn't it be great to sit down for a meal with her each day? Going to college is the same in the Air Force as it is with the Navy. Remember too, that some of your time in the whatever service you join will count toward your degree. So you won't have to do the pre-requisite Humanities class, for example.

I hope you can make a great decision that will affect the rest of your life with the knowledge that all ATOT can bring to this thread.
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This is bad advice..

You as a Tron should understand the bad advice you are giving him..
maybe you just didn't have the exposure to the Air Force that I did as a StrikeFighter Puke Tron..

We spent alot of time cross training with the Air Force at various Air Force and Navy Exercises.
and through that We got to talk to alot of Air Force techs.

As a Tron you know you are trained and responsible for nearly every system in the aircraft.
RADAR SONAR TACAN IFF etc..

Your Air Force equivalent only knows 1 of those systems.. but he is a specialist all the way to the circuit board of the box itself.

Yes this can be a + and a - but all the other training on all the other systems as well as the Aircraft knowledge itself in the Navy's case is far superior in the outside world.

as for the AF not deploying.. more bad advice..

yes they deploy for 6 months to a year or more to forward bases all over the world.
so you may not be on a ship.. but you are stuck at an AF base in Saudi for a year.


BTW they are not removing the role of the P-3 they are modernizing the Aircraft with a replacement.. Boeing 737 based if I remember correctly the P-8 Poseidon.
 
Not much really, other then I got some a msg about some navy nuke officer thing a year or two back. 🙁

Well other then the obvious. 😛
 
Modelworks said:
1989-1995
I tested well on the asvab and was offered training in the carriers nuclear area so I jumped on it. I was 17 at the time and it changed my whole life and I would do it again in a minute. For someone straight out of high school with no attachments I think they should definitely give the military a try. It takes those 4-5 years most people take to grow up while in college and shrinks it down to a year.
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You must have been in Orlando right before me. I started Nuke ET school in September '90.

Was stationed on the Truxtun after school (nuke cruiser).
 
The U.S. Navy, in particular?
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I was there in 1997-1998. Got a medical discharge. I was to be a non-nuke ET, and was going through the tx process from tech core into A-school.

What'll happen: You go to recruiter and they take you to go take the ASVAB. Your score and aptitudes here determine what MOS you might get. You might end up with other tests too. I qualified nuke but failed security.

The Navy is always looking for people so don't worry about that. If you're into electronics your best bet is non-nuke ET. Nuke ET is a lot more tech heavy but it really narrows your market when you get out. Plus you pretty much are guaranteed sub duty.

GI Bill is exactly what it seems, lots of folks use it to pay for school. Any "enlistment bonus" happens years into service.

Your recruiter will lie.

Don't go unrated no matter what. Those folks scrub heads all day.

(uglies join the Navy, cause after 3 months at sea, even these manaties attract male attention).
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Navy women are for the most part horrific. Cute girls go to college, fat and ugly girls have self esteem problems that keep them out of scholarships and college in general. Most (80%+) Navy girls I knew essentially turned into raging sluts who screwed any and everything in an attempt to get knocked up and out of duty. No kidding. They really really are just about all walruses.
 
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In the navy
Yes, you can sail the seven seas
In the navy
Yes, you can put your mind at ease
In the navy
Come on now, people, make a stand
In the navy, in the navy
Can't you see we need a hand
In the navy
Come on, protect the motherland
In the navy
Come on and join your fellow man
In the navy
Come on people, and make a stand
In the navy, in the navy, in the navy (in the navy)
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First thing I thought of too... Was just going to make a list of all the things you can do while In the Navy. 🙂
 
Whoozyerdaddy said:
In the navy
Yes, you can sail the seven seas
In the navy
Yes, you can put your mind at ease
In the navy
Come on now, people, make a stand
In the navy, in the navy
Can't you see we need a hand
In the navy
Come on, protect the motherland
In the navy
Come on and join your fellow man
In the navy
Come on people, and make a stand
In the navy, in the navy, in the navy (in the navy)
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This is about the extent of my knowledge on the Navy.

KT
 
CVSiN said:
As a Tron you know you are trained and responsible for nearly every system in the aircraft.
RADAR SONAR TACAN IFF etc..

Your Air Force equivalent only knows 1 of those systems.. but he is a specialist all the way to the circuit board of the box itself.

Yes this can be a + and a - but all the other training on all the other systems as well as the Aircraft knowledge itself in the Navy's case is far superior in the outside world.
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Understood there. But I was an O-level tech. Always wanted to get into the box and troubleshoot it down to the component level but always loved going out to the aircraft too much. At least with the Air Force he'll pull and fix the box. And while it may just be the IFF, radar, or even the comms, he'll be much better off than with either O-level or I-level.
 
Sentrosi2121 said:
Understood there. But I was an O-level tech. Always wanted to get into the box and troubleshoot it down to the component level but always loved going out to the aircraft too much. At least with the Air Force he'll pull and fix the box. And while it may just be the IFF, radar, or even the comms, he'll be much better off than with either O-level or I-level.
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But he will never know the satisfaction of having a bird on the cat when the radios go out and having about 60 seconds to figure out what the problem is and fix it.
 
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