Yeah I remember buying my first PC , a P5-200 from Gateway for 1900 bucks .... 3 weeks later the PII's came out and the same amount of cabbage I paid would have gotten me a 350mhz or so ...... I remember how pissed I was .... I remember I decided to build my own PC and to learn how to do it .... I remeber having to buy a memory upgrade for my P5-200 from Gateway because no other generic stick would work with the old stick ...... I remember paying 230 bucks for 64 megs ...... I remember having to buy it because the PC came with 32 megs of ram and would lock-up when I tried to surf the web ...... I remember Gateway telling me too bad , so sorry for us selling you a PC that locks up when you try to use it ........ I remeber my mother in law buying a newer Athlon system from Gateway ...... I remember when she got it NOTHING would work that she had (printer,scanner , etc.) because they sent her it loaded with ME before ME hit it's street date ....... I remember searching for hours trying to find compatible drivers for her PC for ME .. I remeber half her stuff not working ... I remember Gateway not caring about it ...... I remember her telling gateway she was boxing the PC up and sending it back because nothing she had would work ....... I remember the biggest LOL was it was a "Gamer's Dream PC" ...... I remember 2 Joysticks at the time were compatible and they were out of stock most places ...... I remember gateway giving her 200 bucks to buy replacements for her items that wouldnt work so she wouldnt send the PC back ..... I remember me begging them to send a copy of WIN98 SE so I could just reload her PC ..... I remember them telling me "We have a contract with Microsoft and it says we can no longer ship out WIN98 , we must send ME , sorry" .......... I feel for the folks who lose thier jobs and all , but Gateway brought it on themself . They felt no remorse for shipping out a PC to my mother in law that had BIG flaws in the software . I admit Microsoft and the other OEM's have fixed those for the most part but still sending someone who knows jack squat about a PC , a very buggy PC is just wrong . She decided to keep it when they offered 200 bucks up , but I told her to send it back and buy a dell . I think sometimes now she wishes she had .