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What do you expect will happen to your consciousness when you die?

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Many intelligent "new age" atheists have a really tough time differentiating the science of why our consciousness exists from the existence of a god.


It makes it very difficult to have a reasonable conversation with the atheist trolls making blind comments.

I really think these new atheists are FAR worse than the zealous christians.
 
SpatiallyAware said:
Many intelligent "new age" atheists have a really tough time differentiating the science of why our consciousness exists from the existence of a god.


It makes it very difficult to have a reasonable conversation with the atheist trolls making blind comments.

I really think these new atheists are FAR worse than the zealous christians.
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I don't really understand what you mean by this. How could an atheist confuse any science with the existence of God? Are you saying they're arguing against certain scientific theories regarding consciousness because they think they are actually arguments for the existence of God? I've never heard of this.
 
SlitheryDee said:
I don't really understand what you mean by this. How could an atheist confuse any science with the existence of God? Are you saying they're arguing against certain scientific theories regarding consciousness because they think they are actually arguments for the existence of God? I've never heard of this.
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Yes.. We have actually had numerous threads on these subjects and they generally boil down to atheists claiming that the entire conversation is nothing more than a way for people to justify having a god.
 
SpatiallyAware said:
Yes.. We have actually had numerous threads on these subjects and they generally boil down to atheists claiming that the entire conversation is nothing more than a way for people to justify having a god.
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I just can't imagine any but the most militant atheist arguing against real science. Are you sure they aren't arguing the veracity of ideas that come under the guise of science, but are actually pseudoscience?
 
SlitheryDee said:
I just can't imagine any but the most militant atheist arguing against real science. Are you sure they aren't arguing the veracity of ideas that come under the guise of science, but are actually pseudoscience?
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That is what I am wondering as well. Are you talking about the 'energy is neither created nor destroyed' arguments for consciousness continuing? Because it is not science, it is ignorance of science.
 
it is eternal.. i'll be conscious in another way... because i have never not been conscious..

even if it's not "alive"
 
If you aren't vivisected and planted into a tree? Your consciousness ceases to exist.

If you are lucky enough to be vivisected and planted, then your consciousness moves into the tree realm and you can advise the elders of your previous existence when they go to the forest to meditate.
 
momeNt said:
If you aren't vivisected and planted into a tree? Your consciousness ceases to exist.

If you are lucky enough to be vivisected and planted, then your consciousness moves into the tree realm and you can advise the elders of your previous existence when they go to the forest to meditate.
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But who will speak for you?
 
I'll hit the buffers at the end of my timeline, bounce back, and then re-experience my entire life in reverse.
 
My consciousness and memories are being processed and stored by living neurons in my brain. If those neurons die and decay, their processing capabilities cease, and the information encoded by them is effectively destroyed.

That's about all there is to it.

Dead and done.

If you value being remembered for some amount of time, all you can really do is affect other people in some way, either directly, or by doing things that leave lasting effects through other means. (Getting a unit of measure or an equation named after you is a good start. 😛) You're a little organic computer that nature happened to cobble together, and accidentally granted you a brain capable of doing a rudimentary job of understanding a little piece of the Universe - it also happens that nature didn't do any planning with respect to extended longevity, so death is something we still have to deal with, at least for the immediate future.

Might as well make the best of it.

NEF.
 
SpatiallyAware said:
Many intelligent "new age" atheists have a really tough time differentiating the science of why our consciousness exists from the existence of a god.


It makes it very difficult to have a reasonable conversation with the atheist trolls making blind comments.

I really think these new atheists are FAR worse than the zealous christians.
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Why don't you go ahead and clarify that statement, because I'm getting a good whiff of bullshit.
 
pmv said:
I'll hit the buffers at the end of my timeline, bounce back, and then re-experience my entire life in reverse.
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So you're imagining your afterlife to resemble Real Player? You sick bastard, your version of Hell makes Dante's imaginings look pleasant in comparison.

slag said:
Interesting question. Seems a shame that all our life experiences, everything we've seen, felt, touched, and have registered in our brains over the years would suddenly cease to matter because our physical body died. Yet, since we aren't plugged into a larger grid or anything, it appears that it would do just that. If all it takes are a series of electrical impulses to keep our brain alive, why can't we simulate a human host yet and hook up to it to keep our consciousness "conscious"? I'm sure it's just a matter of time. If we could freeze our brains when we die, is there a way we could "retrieve" the information that is stored there, or once the power is gone, our ROM also empties?
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Already been hypothesized, unless you're Catholic in which case you're screwed.
 
I had a dream once that I retained consciousness after I died, but stayed in my own body, unable to manipulate it anymore.
I was buried, and everything was black and quiet. That was pretty freaky.
 
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