What do you do about injustice?

[Infohawk]

Most people think there is injustice in the world, they just disagree what the injustice is. For some, it's abortion. For others, it's a given war. This thread is not about what is wrong. It's about what your response is.

Do you get angry? Sad? Violent?

Do you blab on P&N?

Do you do nothing?

Do you take action? (If you claim take action, back it up with specifics).

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Personally, I tend to be angry when there is injustice, not sad. Beyond that, I support certain organizations and I share facts with people. Not much really.

 

[Valkerie]

They'll get punished one way or another.

Besides, if you think about it, the truly honest are the ones that have a happy ending. 'Cuz if you look at the agressors in history, they've all been spat upon, and are suffering even to this day.

WW 1 - Germans and allies get their a**es kicked
WW 2 - Germans suffer terribly (again)
WW 2 - Japanese become statistics with the A-Bomb, but nevertheless have become #1 in technological development
WW 3 - not there yet...
Korean War - North gets dumped
Vietnam War - US suffer heavy casualties, well, Vietnamese did too, nonetheless, the United States did not prevail
Gulf War - Saddam's military is thrown back so far down, that their economy gets warped back into the stone age! (not exactly, but will take decades to recover if ever)
War in Iraq - Bush lied, and wanted to wage a war, so our country looks like $H!* right now.
Future - Don't be an @$$, have some common sense, lying gets you no whea~

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: Valkerie
They'll get punished one way or another.

I disagree completely. There is no proof for karma or anything like this. History is full of conflicts where the wrong side did whatever it wanted to and there were no consequences. (see native american genocide)

The responsibility to make the world a better place is in our hands.

 

[Valkerie]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Valkerie
They'll get punished one way or another.

I disagree completely. There is no proof for karma or anything like this. History is full of conflicts where the wrong side did whatever it wanted to and there were no consequences. (see native american genocide)

The responsibility to make the world a better place is in our hands.

I agree with the last statement you said. But I still believe that the more bad things you amount to, the worse you're off in the long run, vice versa (just to clarify).

 

[1EZduzit]

I'm against it. I've always believed that even though you will never be able to be completely fair that is no reason not to try your best to be fair.

 

[MadRat]

Trying to be fair sometimes reaches a point of futility and no amount of rules will solve a bad apple turning a bunch into mush. A more direct approach to weed out the bad apple has to be taken irregardless of what one deems to be fair. Only by trying to be fair does one put an unnecessary lid on the bunch that is good to begin with. Eventually more of the bunch end up in spoil due to neglect of what was already deemed to be good. We as a society should keep law simple and meet the challenge when its necessary. Somewhere along the way people forgot the old wisdom about truth as the center of justice.

 

[ExpertNovice]

Originally posted by: Valkerie
They'll get punished one way or another.

Agreed. But mankind will only punish them if mankind is allowed to speak out against injustices. PC speech, couched in different terms, is intended to stifle such discussion.

This is why Soros spent so much money to get the first amendment squashed. The liberals Mcain and Feingold, of course, also want the first amendment, second amendment, etc. squashed and drafted the bill.

I understand why the Democrats supported it but why the Republicans that did support it supported it is beyond my understanding. This was during a time when President Bush was not vetoing anything presented to him, but he is just as guilty.

Still as you said. Even if mankind doesn't punish them God will, although they may also be forgiven.


Edited to answer the OP's question.

Speak out. Don't be stifled. Allow the majority, as long as the majority are making moral decisions, to rule. That is, trust the people.

Remember, the founding fathers wanted the new middle class to rule. Not the poor nor the elites.

Of course, squashing religion is a great way to allow the majority to rule without morals... which would allow support for slavery, for example.

 

[piasabird]

History is often rewritten by the victors. The USA use to belong to the Native American inhabitants. The federal government killed many Indians simply to get rid of them. The good guys do not always win. When a dictator makes his own people suffer for 50 years no one really wins.

The Japanese tortured people throughout all the wars they were involved in from their attacking Korea to the thousands of prisoners in WWII that they worked to death in prison camps. In China the Japanese gave the children candy laced with opium. The Japanese literally raped korea and China of every natural resource they could find. They chopped the trees down and took the lumber and burned the local temples to the ground. Then they made the farmers work like slaves and stole their crops. Dont take my word on it, go look for some Pearl S. Buck Novels. The Japanese deserved to be wiped off the face of the earth, but they survived somehow. We should have dropped a few more nukes in my mind.

Tyrants will be tyrants I suppose.

I cant totally blame Bush for this war because a lot of confusion was brought about by European nations supporting Sadam when they took all their Oil for Blood money from Sadam. While I have never been in favor of this war it has shed some light on what was really going on in Iraq. We need to keep investigating the actions of our so-called allies in Europe. They make Bush look like a saint.

 

[MadRat]

You are an ethnic bigot.

 

[StageLeft]

Mad, and whine about it on AT, basically. I am in the early stages of a costume, however. Once it's complete I plan on spending 3-4 hours every night fighting crime in the greater Birmingham area.

 

[MadRat]

I'll get the tivo set to catch the 11 o'clock. Please drop some tips to help me avoid the FF key too much.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Valkerie
They'll get punished one way or another.

Besides, if you think about it, the truly honest are the ones that have a happy ending. 'Cuz if you look at the agressors in history, they've all been spat upon, and are suffering even to this day.

WW 1 - Germans and allies get their a**es kicked
WW 2 - Germans suffer terribly (again)
WW 2 - Japanese become statistics with the A-Bomb, but nevertheless have become #1 in technological development
WW 3 - not there yet...
Korean War - North gets dumped
Vietnam War - US suffer heavy casualties, well, Vietnamese did too, nonetheless, the United States did not prevail
Gulf War - Saddam's military is thrown back so far down, that their economy gets warped back into the stone age! (not exactly, but will take decades to recover if ever)
War in Iraq - Bush lied, and wanted to wage a war, so our country looks like $H!* right now.
Future - Don't be an @$$, have some common sense, lying gets you no whea~

i dunno. look at germany today. 6 million jewish dead alone. they've been punished? more like they've been forgiven.
as for vietnam, its not quite black and white. communism failed. capitalism is thriving, especially in the south where they still remember the freemarket and didn't suffer under the vietcong as long. in the long run we have won and they have truely lost. millions dead and progress stiffled for decades for nothing. adopting the ways of your enemy in the end.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
Most people think there is injustice in the world, they just disagree what the injustice is. For some, it's abortion. For others, it's a given war. This thread is not about what is wrong. It's about what your response is.

Do you get angry? Sad? Violent?

Do you blab on P&N?

Do you do nothing?

Do you take action? (If you claim take action, back it up with specifics).

***

Personally, I tend to be angry when there is injustice, not sad. Beyond that, I support certain organizations and I share facts with people. Not much really.

Sometimes I get angry/ furious. Or I seek out information, research the topic, then talk about it with people. But other times I feel overwhelmed and depressed. I heard the other night that over a million people die a year from waterborne bacteria that cause diarrhea. It's a problem that can easily be dealt with, it doesn't take sophisitcated, expensive science to deal with this problem, just an improvement in sewerage and water supplies, and maybe some water purification tablets. It's kind of obscene that people are dying from something so easily dealt with. And then you think about the amounts of $$$ spent by first world nations on weaponry. And there are so many other issues - millions of people die each year from starvation, large numbers of women die in child-birth each year due to lack of modern medical facilities, etc. The amazon is still being chopped down at a crazy pace. Species of animals are being made extinct before we have had time to even identify and categorize them. Etc. It's pretty depressing when you think about it.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: Valkerie
They'll get punished one way or another.

I disagree completely. There is no proof for karma or anything like this. History is full of conflicts where the wrong side did whatever it wanted to and there were no consequences. (see native american genocide)

The responsibility to make the world a better place is in our hands.

There is only one thing you can do to improve the world and that is to improve yourself.

If you want to proof of Karma learn to feel what you feel. You will discover that you are in hell.

If you hate yourself you hate injustice. The desire to right a wrong is revenge.

There is only one thing a person can do to be just and that is to love unconditionally.

All evil thinks itself good.

 

[0roo0roo]

well not entirely...the nazis' did sorta hide what they were doing, but they sorta still did think they were good