What do you consider a "manly" automobile?

[ponyo]

Ask OP what car he drives. Definitely not manly.

 

[JMapleton]

I would argue that old-school muscle cars are intellectual. It requires a lot of thinking to work on old mechanical stuff like that. It doesn't come naturally to me, but I have a friend who has a knack for mechanics & it's amazing watching him work and figure out how to fix stuff.

Your analogy literally makes no sense. If it takes that much intelligence to repair an old muscle car, how much more intelligence would be required to repair a complex modern sportscar like a Nissan GTR or Veyron.

 

[JMapleton]

A minivan. Period. Posturing that you are manly based on your car choice is the most insecure thing I can think of. Realizing it is a tool, maximizing utility, and not giving a shit what others are thinking is "manly" by true standards.

This is what our "everybody wins, everyone gets a trophy" society has brainwashed people to think.

Everyone, including yourself, makes assumptions about people and things based on appearance.

 

[Sulaco]

Your analogy literally makes no sense. If it takes that much intelligence to repair an old muscle car, how much more intelligence would be required to repair a complex modern sportscar like a Nissan GTR or Veyron.

The difference being that in reality the VAST majority of old muscle car owners are going to be wrenching on, maintaining, and rebuilding their cars themslves, whereas Veyron (lol) and GTR owners overwhelmingly will not.

 

[JMapleton]

Putting money into 3 vehicles does not equal manly. It also does not show any level of financial prudence. It might be enjoyable (sounds more like a headache at this point in my life), but it in no way makes someone "manly".

"Financial prudence" on trivial life items like cars is not manly. A manly man would be able to buy any car he wants without it effecting his budget. Your point is null.

 

[JMapleton]

The difference being that in reality the VAST majority of old muscle car owners are going to be wrenching on, maintaining, and rebuilding their cars themslves, whereas Veyron (lol) and GTR owners overwhelmingly will not.

Maybe so, but if you are appreciative of any sort of intellectual pursuit, you are going to appreciate the modern technology and complex engineering of modern sports cars, as opposed to the incredible simplicity of an antiquated muscle car.

A personal interested in technology and computers is not going to use a 486 computer because it's a "classic" or "cheap to repair." They're going to have the newest technology.

 

[Sulaco]

"Financial prudence" on trivial life items like cars is not manly. A manly man would be able to buy any car he wants without it effecting his budget. Your point is null.

Then the entire point of this thread is null. If just being able to buy the most expensive/complicated/largest fleet of automobiles is the requisite, then what's the point of even asking?

But anyone with half a brain already knew this thread had no value.

 

[JMapleton]

I've got a '14 Raptor and a '15 Z06. I'd say those are pretty manly. So... I'd go with "over 500hp and under 16MPG = manly"

I would say they're not manly at all. A truck is not manly. It not appeal to a sophisticated gentleman. While a Corvette is technologically lackluster compared to most other modern high end sports cars.

 

[JMapleton]

Then the entire point of this thread is null. If just being able to buy the most expensive/complicated/largest fleet of automobiles is the requisite, then what's the point of even asking?

That's my opinion, it may not be yours and if it isn't, I will tell you, but I will also respect your opinion.

 

[JMapleton]

Ask OP what car he drives. Definitely not manly.

I was waiting for it. Directing the argument towards the OP on a personal level is you admitting either your own weakness or that the OP is correct in his argument, or often both.

I never claimed anywhere in this thread that I am "manly," or that I drive a real mans car.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Holy crap dude learn how to use the friggin multi quote button.

 

[Zenmervolt]

A manly man would be able to buy any car he wants without it effecting his budget.

A manly man would know the difference between "affect" and "effect."

A truck is not manly. It not appeal to a sophisticated gentleman.

Your grammar not appeal to sophisticated gentlemen. You go away. Take troll post with you.

ZV

 

[JMapleton]

A manly man would know the difference between "affect" and "effect."

Your grammar not appeal to sophisticated gentlemen. You go away. Take troll post with you.

ZV

Insulting me is not going to prove to anyone that I am incorrect....if that's what your intentions are.

 

[Ramses]

I think his intention was mostly humor. It worked.

 

[Torn Mind]

Maybe so, but if you are appreciative of any sort of intellectual pursuit, you are going to appreciate the modern technology and complex engineering of modern sports cars, as opposed to the incredible simplicity of an antiquated muscle car.

A personal interested in technology and computers is not going to use a 486 computer because it's a "classic" or "cheap to repair." They're going to have the newest technology.

Why would I care if guys with masters or Ph.D's in computer science and engineering make fancy gizmos and put them in cars? Owning a Mustang won't make me more knowledgable about those subjects or anything else that is graduate school level. I am fairly confident that most sports car owners don't even know what silicon is, or confuse it with silicone, and probably don't even know how the screen works on an infotainment system.

 

[Torn Mind]

"Financial prudence" on trivial life items like cars is not manly. A manly man would be able to buy any car he wants without it effecting his budget. Your point is null.

Fortunes are made through financial prudence and savvy, even to the point that ethics are discarded. Oh, there are lottery winners, but they have a habit of winding up dead or burning through their fortune.

Another example is star athletes being broke. For a time, they could afford anything, but they couldn't preserve such a glorious state of affairs.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Insulting me is not going to prove to anyone that I am incorrect....if that's what your intentions are.

I think his intention was mostly humor. It worked.

This. Taking the time to prove that JMapleton posts are the rantings of an empty, materialist shell is like taking the time to prove that Jenny McCarthy's views on vaccination are backward and ignorant: Anyone who matters already knows.

ZV

 

[Ramses]

It's really two sides of the same coin and not something one can successfully argue either way, the muscle car tech vs late model tech bit. There are a bunch of old guys that can swap jet's in a double pumper holley and read a plug that can't understand a fuel map, and vice versa. The former is a dieing art you could say maybe, you could also say the latter is more a case of guys ordering a super JDM CAI off ebay more than anything more involved most times. It's a wash imo.

Different skillset according to one's preference and interest though for the legit folks.
If the dude tuning MSnS with his laptop had been born in the right era, he'd be tuning carbs. And vice versa.

 

[JMapleton]

Fortunes are made through financial prudence and savvy, even to the point that ethics are discarded. Oh, there are lottery winners, but they have a habit of winding up dead or burning through their fortune.

Another example is star athletes being broke. For a time, they could afford anything, but they couldn't preserve such a glorious state of affairs.

True. Financial prudence is important in business and necessary to master if you are to be successful at it.

But we strive to be financially prudent in our corporate lives with 9 or 10 figure sums, so we don't have to be prudent with 5 or 6 figure sums when car shopping.

It's a sad sad case when a person's extreme financial conservatism spills over into their personal life because they are so used to it in business. If I wanted to live financially prudent and drive an uninteresting car in my personal life, I wouldn't work so hard in my professional life.

 

[Torn Mind]

Putting money into 3 vehicles does not equal manly. It also does not show any level of financial prudence. It might be enjoyable (sounds more like a headache at this point in my life), but it in no way makes someone "manly".

It is for after I make a fortune. Then I can drive around in a Prius doing mundane things, and the truck for big things. And register the garage queen when I feel like it.

And I wasn't being totally serious. But a man knows his mules and sacred cows, and when to use them.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Maybe so, but if you are appreciative of any sort of intellectual pursuit, you are going to appreciate the modern technology and complex engineering of modern sports cars, as opposed to the incredible simplicity of an antiquated muscle car.

A personal interested in technology and computers is not going to use a 486 computer because it's a "classic" or "cheap to repair." They're going to have the newest technology.

If that was the case you wouldn't be making threads like this.

True. Financial prudence is important in business and necessary to master if you are to be successful at it.

But we strive to be financially prudent in our corporate lives with 9 or 10 figure sums, so we don't have to be prudent with 5 or 6 figure sums when car shopping.

It's a sad sad case when a person's extreme financial conservatism spills over into their personal life because they are so used to it in business. If I wanted to live financially prudent and drive an uninteresting car in my personal life, I wouldn't work so hard in my professional life.

And yet you hold the Veyron up as an epitome of intelligence? You know that cost them 5 times more to make than the ridiculous price they sold it for, right? That takes a special level of business failure considering that by and large luxury (or rather ultra luxury in this case) goods have the highest profit margins, and yet they managed to lose literally millions of dollars per vehicle.

I'd say it's far far more sad that someone would be so insecure about themselves that they worry how the material goods they buy portrays them to the world. Doubly so for someone that shows such a woeful mix of ignorance and narcissism with regards to discussing it.

 

[darkswordsman17]

This. Taking the time to prove that JMapleton posts are the rantings of an empty, materialist shell is like taking the time to prove that Jenny McCarthy's views on vaccination are backward and ignorant: Anyone with even basic comprehension already knows.

ZV

Fixed that for you.

 

[JulesMaximus]

"Financial prudence" on trivial life items like cars is not manly. A manly man would be able to buy any car he wants without it effecting his budget. Your point is null.

So, real men are rich is basically what you're saying?

 

[Sulaco]

So, real men are rich is basically what you're saying?

He has no idea what he's saying. He's simply confused and seeking some kind of validation.

 

[PricklyPete]

"Financial prudence" on trivial life items like cars is not manly. A manly man would be able to buy any car he wants without it effecting his budget. Your point is null.

Haha...you are funny. Is that you Alky?