What do you call someone who votes based purely on what they personally gain?

[momeNt]

I sincerely hope this collapse is followed by anarchy though. I think the USA has enough individuals that own guns that the map can be covered in large swathes of anarchy, enough so that a dictatorship will never be able to last.

 

[schneiderguy]

I sincerely hope this collapse is followed by anarchy though. I think the USA has enough individuals that own guns that the map can be covered in large swathes of anarchy, enough so that a dictatorship will never be able to last.

It would be glorious.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

A senior citizen on SS and Medicare?

Medicaid, government programs in general, especially if they never worked to provide them.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Big oil lobbying for its self interest and government subsidies.

Big pharma lobbying for the same.

Agriculture business lobbying for the same.

Wallstreet lobbying for the same

The list goes on

Last I checked our latest financial mess wasn't caused by the average voter wanting handouts.

I pay into the system way more than I get out of it and don't want a dime of my money going to the over 100 billion a year is corporate subsidies and handouts or billions in military imperialism.

But rail on against birth control and food stamps and keep blaming poor people and minorities, it's a winning strategy lol.

Oh hell it's part of it. There can be no reform even spoken of. Workfare? Entitlement reform with the aim of getting people jobs and working? You racist you.

Not to say that there aren't a lot of other problems, but make no mistake, bureaucratic gridlock exists and it's real. When have you ever seen a successful reformation of a bureaucracy outside of revolution? Even then it just goes underground.

 

[jhu]

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What does say a married Wall Street banker have in common with a single mom with 3 kids by 3 different fathers?

They both like doing coke?

 

[momeNt]

It would be glorious.

We were meant to be born free, instead we are born as property of a government.

 

[fskimospy]

Wealthy Southern gentry fighting for nearly 100 years for the right to own slaves doesn't ring a bell? Slavery was both a) in the slaveholder's self-interest and b) profoundly immoral. Hardly a major democracy exists which hasn't still mistreated one group or another.

No human society has ever existed that didn't mistreat one group or another, it has nothing to do with democracy.

Also, their self interest was most certainly checked, hence they seceded and the civil war happened. Thanks for helping my point with your bell ring though!

 

[lotus503]

Oh hell it's part of it. There can be no reform even spoken of. Workfare? Entitlement reform with the aim of getting people jobs and working? You racist you.

Not to say that there aren't a lot of other problems, but make no mistake, bureaucratic gridlock exists and it's real. When have you ever seen a successful reformation of a bureaucracy outside of revolution? Even then it just goes underground.

Of course I think we should have entitlement reform, however I think corporate socialism/Welfare is a bigger problem currently than food stamps.

The spirit of the thread is people voting for their own self interests, I think a bigger problem is corporations lobbying for theirs.

%.05 of the population funds the election cycles and that %.05 is not a welfare mom.

 

[child of wonder]

Of course I think we should have entitlement reform, however I think corporate socialism/Welfare is a bigger problem currently than food stamps.

The spirit of the thread is people voting for their own self interests, I think a bigger problem is corporations lobbying for theirs.

%.05 of the population funds the election cycles and that %.05 is not a welfare mom.

Agreed. Government entitlements across the board need to be reformed.

Not only should we not be giving people who won't work EBT cards they can use at Super America and Papa Murphy's, we also shouldn't be giving out billions in subsidies to any area of the market.

Any government aid needs to be temporary and with the single goal of empowering the person or persons receiving it so they can better themselves. If they have no desire to do so with the aid, then they'll be left to seek help from charities.

My family is riddled with people suckling from the government teet as a career and it's disgusting.

 

[shortylickens]

Realistic.

"For the general good" is a bullshit excuse both Democrats and Republicans use cuz they dont wanna look evil while running for office.

Do you honestly think those guys are all sweet and kind and smiley when they go back to their office and plot how to milk you?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Of course I think we should have entitlement reform, however I think corporate socialism/Welfare is a bigger problem currently than food stamps.

The spirit of the thread is people voting for their own self interests, I think a bigger problem is corporations lobbying for theirs.

%.05 of the population funds the election cycles and that %.05 is not a welfare mom.

Now that can't be possibly right. Obama won and he's pure in spirit and will lead us to a better future by his inherent moral superiority, right?

Yeah I understand influence, however I hold that lies a level deeper than that is how humans relate to power. If the influence suddenly went away, would a party surrender power to one who has better ideas? I don't think so. Obviously people vote in their interests, and so do corporations, however power and influence is often subtle, and the welfare mom isn't the issue. It's what has been constructed around her which serves as leverage in the Game.