What do you all think of the Volari?

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reever

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I think you forgot the big disclaimer where you say that this is your opinion, because this is all speculation at this time.

yeah, speculation backed by logic. The fillrate of the dual card will be massive, and will best NV and ATI by a large margin, so games that dont really run on shader or pure computational performance like Doom3, will most likely run faster on the volari
 

CombatChuk

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I think that it might be delayed past the holiday season. Once it does finally come out, the next generation cores from Nvidia and ATI will come out and come out on top of it. But then again, I could be wrong...
 

Johnbear007

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Originally posted by: KGB
Seems cool on paper, had pretty decent benchmarks with a P4 3ghz. I would just worry about 1 GPU core dying while the other functions. Will there be side affects and how detremental they will be.

I can't wait until someone places a 2 waterblock on those 2 gpus and crank the Mhz from 350 to 435 :D

Not trying to be too mean, but that seems like kind of a silly concern. It doesnt seem any more likely that one of your two GPU cores would die on this card than it does that the single core on the card you have now would die, which would leave in the same situation either way....... and I am guessing that they will have a warranty :p

 

Johnbear007

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Originally posted by: VIAN
Judging from some numbers XGI dug up, the top card only performs 5500 3dmark'03. I think that is slow.

I guess i'm lucky, unlike the rest of you I don't play 3dmark, since it's not a game. 3dmark performance means less than nothing to me.
 

Johnbear007

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
It doesn't matter how well their top dog does, they don't care.

What matters is whether they can put out an effective mid and low end line, to compete with the 9600Pro and 5700/5600 and the 9200/5200.

Having a low end DX9 part (if they have one) and putting out competetive mid range cards that can perform on par or better than the ATi and nVidia cards or are slightly cheaper, then they will have had a success.
Top end isn't much to these people, money comes from the mainstream users.

Thats BS


Having a high end leader breeds confidence in the brand as a whole. It doesnt make them alot of cash directly, but indirectly it has huge significance.
 

Johnbear007

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In my opinion it will fail big time. Not because it is slow, but because it wont release soon enough.

It's like the dreamcast. If the dreamcast had been out a year earlier, Sega would probably still be making consoles.


This jokers just dont have what it takes to get it to market, just like 3dfx. It doesnt matter how grat your product is you have to actually put it on the shelves.

They will get it out too late, and by the time it is out, people will be saying "Wait for R420, it will drive down prices on the 9800 which is better than the Volari"

Mark my words.

Some people are losers and cant suceed.
 

capodeloscapos

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Ojalá :) I have to see the benchs.... I hope Volari can meet the performance claimed... It will be better for consumers. An other GPU Company...
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: Johnbear007
In my opinion it will fail big time. Not because it is slow, but because it wont release soon enough.

It's like the dreamcast. If the dreamcast had been out a year earlier, Sega would probably still be making consoles.


This jokers just dont have what it takes to get it to market, just like 3dfx. It doesnt matter how grat your product is you have to actually put it on the shelves.

They will get it out too late, and by the time it is out, people will be saying "Wait for R420, it will drive down prices on the 9800 which is better than the Volari"

Mark my words.

Some people are losers and cant suceed.

I agree with you about Volari being dead before it gets out the gate, but not entirely about the Dreamcast (although almost). True, if the Dreamcast was out a year earlier it would have been way ahead of it's time but even so, it had 2 years on the PS2 (at least, on American soil). The Dreamcast had so many great games but it was destined to failure from the crippling hype the PS2 was getting. "Just wait for PS2 or you'll regret it," or "PS2's graphics put the Dreamcast to shame." It turns out that first gen PS2 games looked just like Dreamcast games, and if developers (and gamers) knew this they would have supported the DC well before it fell to $49.99 ;).
 

bunnyfubbles

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Develop a GPU intended to power a board in the midrange market where there is more potential for sales than flagships, then double it up to get performance numbers. It's pretty smart for XGI if you ask me. Instead of trying to show everyone that you your bark is just as loud as the other big dawgs by wasting R&D on a single chip flagship that you know will never generate you much sales in market already heavily entrenched, you use your R&D to develop a budget chip, then you offer a 2x solution as your flagship, very little extra work needed in comparison to designing a flagship separate from your mainstreams.

The best part about it is that the Rage MAXX and the Voodoo 5 were born into a world that was right on the upswing of PC invasion and really we've yet to see another dual GPU attempt now that PCs are practically as common as TVs and broadband is spreading like wildfire as half of Americans use the internet to get their news. Everytime I walk into a store like Best Buy it almost always seems as though they're always sold out of the $400 cards they happen to be stocking. This wasn't true several years ago when there simply wasn't the demand, there might be a market now, and the market is just as gullible as ever to fall victim to fancy looking terms. Someone nailed it right on the head when they predicted a BB salesman quoting "2 engines = 2x performance", and mumbo jumbo like that makes sales, even if it isn't for the expensive 2 engine product. Customers will be wowed by such a powerful sounding card and if they can't afford that beast they'll have to settle for the 1 engine version for the time being... caught in the trap.

Maybe if the GPU market weren't one of the toughest markets to survive in in the computer industry, maybe then XGI would have a chance, but unless they are really playing their cards well with the Volari I see only very little chance for them to survive. ATI and nVidia will crush XGI as long as their products aren't getting embarassed (I mean a real good butt whoopin') simply because they are the Coke and Pepsi of the GPU market, no room for RC no matter how up to par it might be. At the same time I wouldn't count them entirely out. ATI has come a looonnnggg way with the Radeon. Starting with the Radeon 256 they kept up, just enough. With the Radeon 8500 they were able to average on par. With the 9700 Pro the took a huge lead and maintain a marginal lead with the 9800 Pro/XT in the ongoing king-of-the-hill battle against nVidia. It didn't happen overnight, and judging from hints as to Volari performance, they seem to be in a Radeon 256 - Radeon 8500 stage in terms of where they are today, but I'll wait to say anything more before I see some more/better indications of what XGI can do with their Volari.