Originally posted by: Agentbolt
LOUD NOISES
Originally posted by: BUTCH1
I myself, would not move if a cop has a gun drawn on me. It may be indeed that instinct urges one to "scurry" to safety
when a gun is pointed at them, but from the cop's perspective you might be going for a gun.
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: spidey07
Not trying to troll...
He ran from the police. Don't do that. Purely his own fault and his decisions that lead to this course of action.
How many times must one repeat DON'T RUN FROM THE COPS! He chose his own path and chose the wrong one.
Not if you are looking at a $700k payout!
Yep, he played the victim mentality perfectly. Complete with the emotional tugs that somebody with a brain can see right through.
Originally posted by: Fraggable
Originally posted by: BUTCH1
I myself, would not move if a cop has a gun drawn on me. It may be indeed that instinct urges one to "scurry" to safety
when a gun is pointed at them, but from the cop's perspective you might be going for a gun.
I have no police record at all, but did have a police (3 of them actually) point a gun at me once. It's a long story but in short, my friend had just bought a real-looking BB airgun, it looked a lot like a revolver. We were in the car waiting for my friend's mom to get her hair done and he decided that was a great time to oil the new gun, so he opened the door and did it in the parking lot. Apparently someone saw him and called the cops, 5 of them showed up from all points of the parking lot and rushed the car with their guns drawn and had us all up against the car in seconds. In the 1 or 2 seconds I saw it coming, my instinct was not to run away, it was pure shock and disbelief.
The funny thing about it is my brother saw them coming and laughed when one of them stared yelling to get out of the car and and the ground. He thought it was some kind of joke. No one involved ahs ever let him forget that.
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Congrats on winning the case!!! Ignore the ignorant trolls, the internet brings out the wannabe lawyers and psychologists.
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Congrats on winning the case!!! Ignore the ignorant trolls, the internet brings out the wannabe lawyers and psychologists.
So tell us are you an ignorant troll, wannabe lawyer, or psychologist?
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Congrats on winning the case!!! Ignore the ignorant trolls, the internet brings out the wannabe lawyers and psychologists.
So tell us are you an ignorant troll, wannabe lawyer, or psychologist?
Did I hurt your feelings? It's only the internet.
Originally posted by: DonVito
I am currently in trial on a police excessive-force case in which I represent the plaintiff. My client is a well-educated (he has an undergrad degree in EE, with all but thesis for a master's in software engineering) certified construction engineer who owns his own construction firm. He is black. He was forcefully arrested and pepper-sprayed by police responding to a suspected armed robbery committed by a white man.
An article about our case is here.
I am curious what people make of this. Obviously you are unable to review all the evidence, but based only on what you see in that article (which is essentially fair and accurate in my view), what say the members of ATOT? Who would you be inclined to side with, and, if you find in his favor, what kinds of damages would you consider awarding? Keep in mind it is undisputed that he suffers from severe post-traumatic stress disorder and depression (even the doctor hired by the defense attorneys concurs with these diagnoses), and also has various physical injuries, though none are especially severe.
Also, the evidence strongly suggests that the police are lying about some significant details of his arrest, and we will probably be allowed to pursue punitive damages.
EDIT: We won one of the biggest verdicts in a police case in state history, including the largest-ever punitive damages award.
ANOTHER EDIT: The local paper just ran another big article about Al - check it out.
Originally posted by: JEDI
"The judge ruled as a matter of law that officers had probable cause to take Mr. Hixon into custody," Iverson said Thursday. "Clearly Mr. Hixon was not involved in the bank robbery. We never disputed that. Officers don't have the luxury of 20-20 hindsight or the luxury to evaluate every possible scenario in a situation like this."
um.. how did you win with the JUDGE saying things like this?!
Originally posted by: DonVito
I don't know that the City will appeal, actually. Nearly all of Judge Kyle's important decisions went against us, and I just don't see much in the way of viable appellate issues. There is essentially incontrovertible evidence that the cops lied about knowing about a black male suspect when they arrested Al, and at the end of the day I believe the jury's finding was based fundamentally on credibility. We will be happy to argue the case to the 8th Circuit if it comes down to that, but my hope is that they will just pay. We shall see . . .
Originally posted by: JEDI
btw- $750k award and your fee = $250k thus the city pays $1M?!
Why?
thought lawyers fees come from the award?
ie:
750k award
you get 250k (33% :Q :Q :Q :Q WTF?!)
client gets 500k
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: DonVito
I don't know that the City will appeal, actually. Nearly all of Judge Kyle's important decisions went against us, and I just don't see much in the way of viable appellate issues. There is essentially incontrovertible evidence that the cops lied about knowing about a black male suspect when they arrested Al, and at the end of the day I believe the jury's finding was based fundamentally on credibility. We will be happy to argue the case to the 8th Circuit if it comes down to that, but my hope is that they will just pay. We shall see . . .
btw- $750k award and your fee = $250k thus the city pays $1M?!
Why?
thought lawyers fees come from the award?
ie:
750k award
you get 250k (33% :Q :Q :Q :Q WTF?!)
client gets 500k
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
What made that judge so sure that race was not involved? The cops had no reason to believe he was a suspect, and when he told them they had the wrong black man they said "That's what you all say". If that isn't racism I don't know what is. The judge sounds like a corrupt scumbag.
