What Distribution of LINUX is Best??

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chsh1ca

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
Which kills it because BSD init sucks and slack's half-package management sucks. Compiling things from source is dumb, especially on a server where having a compiler installed can be a security risk.
Guess you've never actually used slack, I take it? It does use RPM, and Slack uses tarballs as well. Slack 8.1 comes with a slackware-oriented package management system. You don't manage many servers I take it. To enlighten you, it is commonplace to compile packages on a single machine for the target architecture and system, and then deploy them. This is especially true in larger server deployments.

I won't bother to point out all the misfacts you've stated here, but then again, your statements tell me a lot about how well you know the OS and how well you secure your boxes.
 

skyking

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Originally posted by: SUOrangeman
If you truly want to hit the ground running with Linux, KNOPPIX is the way to go. 700MB download that is up and running in two minutes or less. I'm not saying that you will actually learning anything about Linux using KNOPPIX, but it is hands-down the fastest way to get Linux running on your PC.

http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

-SUO

I'd do that first. Great way to get your feet wet.
 

Nothinman

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Guess you've never actually used slack, I take it? It does use RPM, and Slack uses tarballs as well. Slack 8.1 comes with a slackware-oriented package management system

I tried slack, but couldn't stand it. If you use both of those how does it keep track of dependencies? If you ignore dependencies, what's the point of the package management?

To enlighten you, it is commonplace to compile packages on a single machine for the target architecture and system, and then deploy them. This is especially true in larger server deployments.

I realize this, but it just happens that nearly all of our servers have different configurations because they're setup for different SBUs and different projects. I'm the one at this company that started making RPMs and Solaris packages for the few places they're applicable.

 

Barnaby W. Füi

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Originally posted by: Vortex
/me puts flame suit on
/me puts another flame suit on for when the flames burn through the first one
/me types post underwater so you cant flame me :D

I wouldn't reccomend debian for a newbie. The install process it alot harder than say, redhat, mancake, or suse. If you do manage to get through it, you will be stuck with outdated packages until you upgrade to the unstable branch (are they still using X 4.1.0, KDE 2.2.2 and Gnome 1.4 in stable?!) XFree86 isnt configured for you through a pretty setup utility like Suse, RH and MDK.

Also, did debian release a kernel update for ix86 yet addressing the ptrace issue? My box was rooted by one of my users with this exploit, and the people in #debian on freenode were no help at all (all 600 of em)

Haha, mancake, definitely the funniest type I've seen in a while :D
 

Spyro

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Originally posted by: magomago
Redhat 9.0 - even easier than so-called "simple mandake"

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Windowx XP - even simpler than so-called "red hat"
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: wizardLRU
Originally posted by: magomago
Redhat 9.0 - even easier than so-called "simple mandake"

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Windowx XP - even simpler than so-called "red hat"

touche, but Linux is free ;) I still think windows is easier but for general usage I'll use Linux once I figure out my modem ;)

 

Spyro

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Originally posted by: magomago
Originally posted by: wizardLRU
Originally posted by: magomago
Redhat 9.0 - even easier than so-called "simple mandake"

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Windowx XP - even simpler than so-called "red hat"

touche, but Linux is free ;) I still think windows is easier but for general usage I'll use Linux once I figure out my modem ;)

If its one of those winmodems then I think I may be able to help. :)
 

HermitGuy

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Ok just to get a plug in for it, I'm going to mention Lycoris for new users of linux.

Now I'm going to duck behind my desk.
 

Spyro

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
Windowx XP - even simpler than so-called "red hat"

Depends on your POV, I find Windows (any version) gets in my way more than it helps me.

Well actually, Nothinman, I was being sarcastic, in order to point out the flaw in the magomago's argument. Because when its all said and done, it does depend on one's point of view. Personally I prefer debian because it seems to make the hard things easier (along with the other more obvious reasons :D)
 

smthmlk

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ive used redhat 7.2, 7.3, 9 (currently) and Suse 7.3.

for beginners, redhat 9 would be best with its auto-detect features and out-of-the-box compatibility with many common devices (such as scanners, printers, etc). buy a book. make friends with linux guru's. be awesome.

-smthmlk