I don't think they really opposed the war though. Just because you didn't support it doesn't mean you're against it.
I'm making that assumption based on a Google search. I also remember reading articles back then about the Indian government thinking about sending a large amount of soldiers, but ultimately decided not to. I don't think the US would have asked them, and they actually think about it seriously, if they were strict opponents of the war. I think they're like 99% of the world - they just don't give a damn. I'd bet that some officials were against it, some not. I don't think they openly supported the US nor did they harshly criticize it.
For the record, I didn't care for the war too much.
Coalition of the Willing (if you give me some scratch)
Some of those countries were requesting membership in NATO in exchange for support.
looks like we went to war with a U.N. Coalition to me but what I wanted to know was who did not sign the paper to go to war other than Russia, France and Germany
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It would really help if you guys would learn to read. I mean it's sweet and all that you want to emulate Fearless Leader, but making a token effort to see what other people already covered would be helpful:
- "More noteworthy is all of the major countries who are NOT on the list: Russia, France, Germany, China, India, Canada, Mexico, Belgium, Austria, Greece, South Africa along with most of the rest of Africa, Brazil along with most of Central and South America, and Saudi Arabia along with most of the Middle Eastern countries who did support the 1991 action. Turkey is listed as "willing" (after we offered billions of dollars), but their support was inconsistent to say the least. The "willing" does NOT include 11 of the 15 UN Security Council members."
I think you can add Iraq itself to that list. They might not have said so at the time considering Saddam would have added them to his mass graves, but the polls seem to show pretty clearly they're happy to see him gone after the fact and now that they have the ability to speak without fear of reprisal.
Not Iraq, and not the U.S.
Here in the U.S. most people simply aquiesced, or deferred to, or were duped, or were indiferent, or with great caution and hesitation supported the Bush administration based on what we know now (and should have known then) to be phoney evidence, misinformation and lies.
...And we complain about the people in Spain.
Sheesh.
not true,
France (and Germany) just said to countries like Poland that it's not nice to bite the hand that feeds you. France and Germany are by far the largest contributors to the EU budget and Poland is receiving billions in EU aid. The enlargement of the EU was decided long before the war. There was nothing to veto because they were already accepted into the EU.
"Sign the paper to go to war"?? Do you even know how the UN works? The UN never sanctioned the war in Iraq. The issue was dropped before a vote would have occured in the UN Security Council.
Greece is a member of the EU since 1981 so I don't have an idea what you are talking about
The debate of Turkey entering in the EU has nothing to do with Iraq but everything with human rights (the Kurdish people). This debate has been going on for almost 10 years.
next try ???
let's try romania and bolgaria:
next time i'll be sure to check who the hek i'm talking about;
http://www.civilitasresearch.com/resources/view_article.cfm?article_id=31
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
And don't forget the countries that supported the war, but still opposed it
Why the confused? I was referring to Germany who opposed the war but contibuted much more than most of the coalition of the willing countries.
:Q
there you go, that's better
1)Romania and Bulgaria are still on the short list for entering the EU in 2007
France (and other EU countries) were upset because those countries signed a letter behind the back of most EU countries expressing their support for Bush. Romano Prodi (the Italian EU chairman) also told those countries that it's not a nice thing to do (sneaky secret meetings) because the normal procedure is to discuss important things (like going to war!!) within the EU and not form your own little secret club within the EU. The countries who signed the letter played a dirty game by stabbing a knive in the back of the countries who had a neutral stance or were opposed.
the coalition of the willing and the willing to be bought off include Uzbekistan whose President, Islam Karimov (A relic from the Soviet Union Days) who has cracked down harshly on political opponents, journalists, human rights activists and even HIS OWN CHILD if they are in the path against "peace and calm in the republic"
Report Slams Uzbek government as U.S. aid decision looms
Karimov's jails are packed with thousands of political prisoners -- many of whom were guilty only of wearing an Islamic-style beard, or praying at a mosque unsanctioned by the state, which is attempting to bring all religion under its control. In fact, just being related to a dissident is enough to get you in trouble: Security forces routinely imprison entire families. Even more horrific, researchers turned up evidence that prisoners had been boiled to death last year.
Our Uzbek Allies
nice guy, boils political prisoners ... give him 86 million dollars now, wait ten years and condemn him then and then invade his country.
Report Slams Uzbek government as U.S. aid decision looms
Karimov's jails are packed with thousands of political prisoners -- many of whom were guilty only of wearing an Islamic-style beard, or praying at a mosque unsanctioned by the state, which is attempting to bring all religion under its control. In fact, just being related to a dissident is enough to get you in trouble: Security forces routinely imprison entire families. Even more horrific, researchers turned up evidence that prisoners had been boiled to death last year.
Our Uzbek Allies
nice guy, boils political prisoners ... give him 86 million dollars now, wait ten years and condemn him then and then invade his country.
Originally posted by: chowderhead
the coalition of the willing and the willing to be bought off include Uzbekistan whose President, Islam Karimov (A relic from the Soviet Union Days) who has cracked down harshly on political opponents, journalists, human rights activists.
Report Slams Uzbek government as U.S. aid decision looms
Karimov's jails are packed with thousands of political prisoners -- many of whom were guilty only of wearing an Islamic-style beard, or praying at a mosque unsanctioned by the state, which is attempting to bring all religion under its control. In fact, just being related to a dissident is enough to get you in trouble: Security forces routinely imprison entire families. Even more horrific, researchers turned up evidence that prisoners had been boiled to death last year.
Our Uzbek Allies
nice guy, boils political prisoners ... give him 86 million dollars now, wait ten years and condemn him then and then invade his country.
"Despite all this, the US gave nearly $500 million to Karimov last year, with some $79 million earmarked for the security services."
WTF? I'm paying for this? FCK OUR GOVT. :fuming:
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Originally posted by: DoubleL
looks like we went to war with a U.N. Coalition to me but what I wanted to know was who did not sign the paper to go to war other than Russia, France and Germany
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"Sign the paper to go to war"?? Do you even know how the UN works? The UN never sanctioned the war in Iraq. The issue was dropped before a vote would have occured in the UN Security Council.
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I think I know how the UN works if you call it that, I should have said I don't care who went or didn't go or sent what or who wanted what, I wanted to know what countries in the UN did not sign a resolution of war for the US to go to war other than Russia, France, Germany,
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Originally posted by: DoubleL
looks like we went to war with a U.N. Coalition to me but what I wanted to know was who did not sign the paper to go to war other than Russia, France and Germany
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"Sign the paper to go to war"?? Do you even know how the UN works? The UN never sanctioned the war in Iraq. The issue was dropped before a vote would have occured in the UN Security Council.
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I think I know how the UN works if you call it that, I should have said I don't care who went or didn't go or sent what or who wanted what, I wanted to know what countries in the UN did not sign a resolution of war for the US to go to war other than Russia, France, Germany,
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