What Codec Pack have you Installed??

[jaykishankrk]

Guys i have a big problem with my system going out of Sync or getting hanged while playing any video file in both xp and vista. i have Klite mega codec pack 1.65 installed on both the OS. On XP i have also installed Nero player. so my question is, the codecs which i have installed, is it causing this ****** problem or is there any other reason to it. My system is Orthos Blend 12 hours stable and the load temps are under control. i can play games for hours without any problem.

i did post this problem in video section way back, but with no good respose, please help i can provide all the details u people want.

 

[hardcandy2]

Here is the one I use on Vista 32 bit They have a 64bit version as well. I also installed Media Player Classic. I use MPC for playing video files.

 

[jaykishankrk]

i have downloaded this package, but do you have any idea about the problems that i am facing, is it really due to Codecs or is there any other reason for it??

 

[hardcandy2]

I think it was the codecs not working with the player you were using. You say you Nero Player on the XP system, but were you using Windows Media player when it would go out of synch?
That is why I suggested Media Player Classic, it just seems to work with anything as long as the codec is present.

 

[MxChris]

Originally posted by: hardcandy2
Here is the one I use on Vista 32 bit They have a 64bit version as well. I also installed Media Player Classic. I use MPC for playing video files.

Thanks for the link, I just tried Codec Pack All in 1 6.0.3.0 with no success on Vista 32bit, hopefully this will do the trick.

 

[BD2003]

Codec packs are completely unnecessary, and usually cause more harm than good.

WMV and Mpeg codecs are included by default.
Use ffdshow for everything else. It can play every mpeg4, x264, decode AC3, ogg etc. coreAVC is better and faster for x264 if you want to pay a bit for quality.
Get qt and real alternative for qt/rm files.
Matroska Splitter for .mkv files.

Play it all in media player classic.

Clean and perfect.

 

[jaykishankrk]

Originally posted by: hardcandy2
I think it was the codecs not working with the player you were using. You say you Nero Player on the XP system, but were you using Windows Media player when it would go out of synch?
That is why I suggested Media Player Classic, it just seems to work with anything as long as the codec is present.

Klite codec pack comes with default Media player classic, i was using the MP Classic till date, i dont know how it can cause such a problem when all other codec packs are un installed :disgust:. i havent tried the new one yet, let me see how my system works with the new one. i will come back with the results tomorrow. thanks for the help

 

[jaykishankrk]

Originally posted by: BD2003
Codec packs are completely unnecessary, and usually cause more harm than good.

WMV and Mpeg codecs are included by default.
Use ffdshow for everything else. It can play every mpeg4, x264, decode AC3, ogg etc. coreAVC is better and faster for x264 if you want to pay a bit for quality.
Get qt and real alternative for qt/rm files.
Matroska Splitter for .mkv files.

Play it all in media player classic.

Clean and perfect.

all i need to know is what to install to make all the video files work on my system. if u can give me the details in order of installation of the players and codecs which you have installed on u r system(with link to downloads if possible), i will try to follow the same.thanks for the reply and hope to hear from u soon.

 

[bassoprofundo]

I use CCCP for both OSes. It uses FFDShow to provide most of it's functionality. Does everything I need, and it's easy to manage.

 

[StopSign]

Originally posted by: BD2003
Codec packs are completely unnecessary, and usually cause more harm than good.

WMV and Mpeg codecs are included by default.
Use ffdshow for everything else. It can play every mpeg4, x264, decode AC3, ogg etc. coreAVC is better and faster for x264 if you want to pay a bit for quality.
Get qt and real alternative for qt/rm files.
Matroska Splitter for .mkv files.

Play it all in media player classic.

Clean and perfect.

I was about to post the exact same thing. People who use codec packs and "hope for the best" don't really know how docoders and filters work. The only thing I have to disagree with is CoreAVC. I've tried it and although it does consume less CPU power than FFDShow, it doesn't give you the image enhancement options that FFDShow comes with. I don't play any high-definition h.264 stuff so I just stick with FFDShow for everything.

Anyway, to answer the thread's question...I have the following installed:
- FFDShow (Feb 2007 build)
- XviD 1.2 (for encoding only)
- VSFilter
- Matroska Splitter / Haali Splitter
- Quicktime Alternative
- Real Alternative

 

[Robor]

Good info in this thread. Thanks for the replies guys. I just subscribed. :thumbsup:

 

[nweaver]

I would start by turning your overclock off....

 

[nerp]

Codec packs are usually ridiculous and a total waste.

I install XviD -- Koepi's latest stable binary.

That's it. XviD can decode most all mpg4 video including divx. If it's a different format, I simply won't watch the file. I expect people to use standards. If they decide to use some funky cheesy codec that won't play without going through hoops, it's not worth my time.

There are other codecs that you might want to install. MKV files are associated with anime, and you might have to look beyond just installing XviD to play them. But the honest truth is this: only install the SPECIFIC codecs you need for SPECIFIC files to play. Codec packs are potentially harmful.

ffdshow is decent too, if you want an "end all" solution of sorts. A tool you can use to determine what codec a file was encoded with is Gspot -- google it.

 

[StopSign]

Originally posted by: nerp
That's it. XviD can decode most all mpg4 video including divx. If it's a different format, I simply won't watch the file. I expect people to use standards. If they decide to use some funky cheesy codec that won't play without going through hoops, it's not worth my time.

That's going a little too far.

 

[harpy82]

Originally posted by: StopSign

Originally posted by: nerp
That's it. XviD can decode most all mpg4 video including divx. If it's a different format, I simply won't watch the file. I expect people to use standards. If they decide to use some funky cheesy codec that won't play without going through hoops, it's not worth my time.

That's going a little too far.

I think so too. xvid is getting a bit old, gently replaced by H264. I watch animes most of the time, and many fansubs are starting to release both xvid and H264 versions. How about those files with AC3 audio? Sticking to just xvid and dumping the rest is just a little bit stereotype.

I use K-lite mega codec pack, just because it comes with media player classic, and the ability to play realmedia and quicktime files under 1 single package. I installed everything in the package just because I do some casual encoding sometimes. But serious there is an option to select which parts you want and want not. There even is a preset profile "Playback Only" which installs nothing but MPC, Real and Quicktime alternative, and FFDshow. Much easier than downloading all the 4 of them and installing separately.

Just my thought, but don't listen to the first quote above.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: jaykishankrk

Originally posted by: BD2003
Codec packs are completely unnecessary, and usually cause more harm than good.

WMV and Mpeg codecs are included by default.
Use ffdshow for everything else. It can play every mpeg4, x264, decode AC3, ogg etc. coreAVC is better and faster for x264 if you want to pay a bit for quality.
Get qt and real alternative for qt/rm files.
Matroska Splitter for .mkv files.

Play it all in media player classic.

Clean and perfect.

all i need to know is what to install to make all the video files work on my system. if u can give me the details in order of installation of the players and codecs which you have installed on u r system(with link to downloads if possible), i will try to follow the same.thanks for the reply and hope to hear from u soon.

Install them in whatever order you please...none of them conflict with each other, except for coreavc and the x264 portion of ffdshow.

WMV and Mpg will play fine without installing anything.
ffdshow will take care of 99% of the rest of A/V, including ac3 audio, ogg, etc.
QT and RM alternative handle just those two specific file types, .mov and .rm.
Matroska splitter is only needed if you have any .mkv files, which are fairly rare outside of HD Rips.

I was about to post the exact same thing. People who use codec packs and "hope for the best" don't really know how docoders and filters work. The only thing I have to disagree with is CoreAVC. I've tried it and although it does consume less CPU power than FFDShow, it doesn't give you the image enhancement options that FFDShow comes with. I don't play any high-definition h.264 stuff so I just stick with FFDShow for everything.

yeah, without high def, I wouldnt worry about it, and just use ffdshow. But HD x264 is so intensive that you need an absolute monster of a system to play it, and coreavc uses so much less CPU time than ffdshow its ridiculous. And there's no need to enhance an HD image. I've personally never seen an x264 video that wasnt HD.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: harpy82

Originally posted by: StopSign

Originally posted by: nerp
That's it. XviD can decode most all mpg4 video including divx. If it's a different format, I simply won't watch the file. I expect people to use standards. If they decide to use some funky cheesy codec that won't play without going through hoops, it's not worth my time.

That's going a little too far.

I think so too. xvid is getting a bit old, gently replaced by H264. I watch animes most of the time, and many fansubs are starting to release both xvid and H264 versions. How about those files with AC3 audio? Sticking to just xvid and dumping the rest is just a little bit stereotype.

I use K-lite mega codec pack, just because it comes with media player classic, and the ability to play realmedia and quicktime files under 1 single package. I installed everything in the package just because I do some casual encoding sometimes. But serious there is an option to select which parts you want and want not. There even is a preset profile "Playback Only" which installs nothing but MPC, Real and Quicktime alternative, and FFDshow. Much easier than downloading all the 4 of them and installing separately.

Just my thought, but don't listen to the first quote above.

The problem with codec packs in general is that it's like swatting a fly with a sledgehammer. And if there's anything you can install that will leave garbage in your system that isnt easily removed it's codecs/filters. The way codecs and filters work and interact with each other is often quite complicated, and the more variables you add into the equation the more chance there is of something being screwed up. And it's rarely a simple process to choose which codec you want to use to decode something without toying with merits and stuff, so it's just easier to use only what you need.

 

[hardcandy2]

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: harpy82

Originally posted by: StopSign

Originally posted by: nerp
That's it. XviD can decode most all mpg4 video including divx. If it's a different format, I simply won't watch the file. I expect people to use standards. If they decide to use some funky cheesy codec that won't play without going through hoops, it's not worth my time.

That's going a little too far.

I think so too. xvid is getting a bit old, gently replaced by H264. I watch animes most of the time, and many fansubs are starting to release both xvid and H264 versions. How about those files with AC3 audio? Sticking to just xvid and dumping the rest is just a little bit stereotype.

I use K-lite mega codec pack, just because it comes with media player classic, and the ability to play realmedia and quicktime files under 1 single package. I installed everything in the package just because I do some casual encoding sometimes. But serious there is an option to select which parts you want and want not. There even is a preset profile "Playback Only" which installs nothing but MPC, Real and Quicktime alternative, and FFDshow. Much easier than downloading all the 4 of them and installing separately.

Just my thought, but don't listen to the first quote above.

The problem with codec packs in general is that it's like swatting a fly with a sledgehammer. And if there's anything you can install that will leave garbage in your system that isnt easily removed it's codecs/filters. The way codecs and filters work and interact with each other is often quite complicated, and the more variables you add into the equation the more chance there is of something being screwed up. And it's rarely a simple process to choose which codec you want to use to decode something without toying with merits and stuff, so it's just easier to use only what you need.

Check out the download link I postred for him at the top of the htread. I agree codec packs are usually bloated, the one I use is well put together.
"Codecs have always been a pain in the butt. This package takes from the best, all the big name creators, several small guys too. Then I track down the latest updates and test their functionality. Next I compile all this into a single pack. All possible conflicts are already dealt with. Many user suggested default settings are implemented. If you have a suggestion of improvement, I'm listening.
Users have the ability to choose what is installed using the public redistributable and after an unattended install, you can select to remove specific portions without removing the entire package. Future releases will recognize previous releases and perform upgrade installations."
Codec link

 

[BladeVenom]

Originally posted by: BD2003
Codec packs are completely unnecessary, and usually cause more harm than good.

WMV and Mpeg codecs are included by default.
Use ffdshow for everything else. It can play every mpeg4, x264, decode AC3, ogg etc. coreAVC is better and faster for x264 if you want to pay a bit for quality.
Get qt and real alternative for qt/rm files.
Matroska Splitter for .mkv files.

Play it all in media player classic.

Clean and perfect.

Go with that and/or VLC.

VLC will do almost everything and no messing (messing up) with codecs.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: hardcandy2

Originally posted by: BD2003

Originally posted by: harpy82

Originally posted by: StopSign

Originally posted by: nerp
That's it. XviD can decode most all mpg4 video including divx. If it's a different format, I simply won't watch the file. I expect people to use standards. If they decide to use some funky cheesy codec that won't play without going through hoops, it's not worth my time.

That's going a little too far.

I think so too. xvid is getting a bit old, gently replaced by H264. I watch animes most of the time, and many fansubs are starting to release both xvid and H264 versions. How about those files with AC3 audio? Sticking to just xvid and dumping the rest is just a little bit stereotype.

I use K-lite mega codec pack, just because it comes with media player classic, and the ability to play realmedia and quicktime files under 1 single package. I installed everything in the package just because I do some casual encoding sometimes. But serious there is an option to select which parts you want and want not. There even is a preset profile "Playback Only" which installs nothing but MPC, Real and Quicktime alternative, and FFDshow. Much easier than downloading all the 4 of them and installing separately.

Just my thought, but don't listen to the first quote above.

The problem with codec packs in general is that it's like swatting a fly with a sledgehammer. And if there's anything you can install that will leave garbage in your system that isnt easily removed it's codecs/filters. The way codecs and filters work and interact with each other is often quite complicated, and the more variables you add into the equation the more chance there is of something being screwed up. And it's rarely a simple process to choose which codec you want to use to decode something without toying with merits and stuff, so it's just easier to use only what you need.

Check out the download link I postred for him at the top of the htread. I agree codec packs are usually bloated, the one I use is well put together.
"Codecs have always been a pain in the butt. This package takes from the best, all the big name creators, several small guys too. Then I track down the latest updates and test their functionality. Next I compile all this into a single pack. All possible conflicts are already dealt with. Many user suggested default settings are implemented. If you have a suggestion of improvement, I'm listening.
Users have the ability to choose what is installed using the public redistributable and after an unattended install, you can select to remove specific portions without removing the entire package. Future releases will recognize previous releases and perform upgrade installations."
Codec link

I understand its configurable, tested, and updated, but I'd still recommend against it. It's configurability is only useful if you know what you're doing, and if you already know what you're doing, you already know what you need.

Sure, he says everything can be removed, but it's never as simple as deleting a file. Codec configuration is a tangled mess that you would to best not to screw with. You're a lot better off not installing something you think you *might* need, because of the chance, sometimes remote, that it will screw something up.

Installing 6 codecs takes seconds to minutes, and practically guarantees that you have the latest versions. Downloading dozens of extra codecs for the sake of saving a minute at most in the install process seems pointless to me.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom
Go with that and/or VLC.

VLC will do almost everything and no messing (messing up) with codecs.

VLC at default settings is horrible at upscaling; when used full screen, videos are terribly pixelated. Is there some obscure setting that can fix this? I like the idea of using VLC, but unfortunately for it, in practical use ffdshow and the rest look much better.

 

[jaykishankrk]

well guys,

My XP has only Vista codec pack (as suggested by one of the Poster). i found it very hard to configure the Klite tweak tool in the package, it shows lot of conflict with other makers like Power DVD, QuickTime etc... and asks to disable these if it exists. so its really a complicated issue for me. i was watching the Movie "The Prestige" DVD Rip, in the middle of it i scaled the fullscreen mode to enhanced widescreen, after a couple of minutes my display showed some mixed color diagonal lines and then went out of Sync showing "No Signal". i believe the same happens if u overclock u r GPU and if it crashes. Once after restarting the Sys i just watched it with the default settings, there was no problem encountered.

so guys what do you make out of this.

to answer to a question posted by "nweaver", i play games continuously for hours without a single freeze or restart, my OC is orthos 12 hours stable. practically i think there is no problem with my OC.

 

[Seeruk]

Another vote for ffdshow.

Klite packs have been a problem for huge numbers of my home customers and myself in the past.

ffdshow is proven, light and 100% reliable. Just make sure you get the latest version and remove the any other packs you may have installed. MS have a codec manager for download if you need to see what is left on your system.

 

[Shawn]

I use ffdshow only.

 

[jaykishankrk]

Originally posted by: Seeruk
Another vote for ffdshow.

Klite packs have been a problem for huge numbers of my home customers and myself in the past.

ffdshow is proven, light and 100% reliable. Just make sure you get the latest version and remove the any other packs you may have installed. MS have a codec manager for download if you need to see what is left on your system.

can u provide me the link.