What caused cursive to die?

[ViviTheMage]

Cursive, the ancient form of swype.

 

[Anubis]

Cursive, the ancient form of swype.

this would explain why i hate swype

 

[slayer202]

I had a heated argument with a jury when I was on jury duty.
They were all old bags and 2 of them were teachers.
They were complaining that none of the youth know how to write cursive and that schools are taking it out of the curriculum.
I told them that it is useless and all you need is printing and typing.
They got pissed and asked me how I would write a signature.
I told them the kids could simple print their signature. A signature is just a personalized writing of your name.
They said NO, it MUST be in cursive.

It's fun arguing with old people who think the old way is the best.

Signatures are bullshit anyway. I just scribble :/ I should really just start writing my initials

 

[Farmer]

Blah blah blah

I mocked you in my previous post. Why have you not provided a proper response?

 

[Saint Nick]

I still write in cursive on a daily basis. And it looks good.

 

[Perknose]

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Here is as promised, a sample of my scroll. It is not a pretty unit as many people have difficulty reading it. I do have some sympathy us love have been timer when I've been hard pushed is decipher what I've written! Anyway I hope it will be of help till be most interested to know what it reveals about my personality. For your information I'm v2 leau of rye mule tight handed.
1000 head!

How did I do?

Here's itHerewith as promised, a sample of my scrollscrawl. It is not a pretty sight as many people have difficulty reading it. I do have some sympathy as there have been times when I've been hard pressedpushed to decipher what I've written! Anyway I hope it will be of help willI'll be most interested to know what it reveals about my personality. For your information I'm 52 years of age andmade right handed.

Good luck!

That is a really terrible example of cursive. That's actually not cursive at all, its just a very sloppy print/cursive hybrid and for some reason has a leftward lean.

Lol, a fun task. Above in bold are my corrections, Saga, of your correction of Burger Boy's attempt at deciphering the posted text.

It's cursive. I grew up with cursive. Nobody printed in grade or high school. No one. Many cursive writers used print versions of a few letters, mostly capital ones. What they wrote was still cursive, and not considered a hybrid. And fwiw, many people had/have a leftward lean to their cursive writing -- that's not at all unusual or "wrong."

Like with anything, the more experience one has had with it, the easier it is to decipher. That experience, I has it.

All that said, cursive is a relic of the past. My handwriting was always relatively awful, and yet so much better than the example above it's not even funny. Times change. We don't "roll up" windows in cars anymore.

Hey, penmanship was a specific skill we were taught from a very young age and patiently mastered, like typing 90 words a minute on a manual typewriter with no errors or, going back even further in time, making lye from wood ash and then rendering your own lard and then making your own soap from these ingredients.

 

[SunnyD]

What is this "Handwriting" you speak of?

 

[TridenT]

I remember that shit now... It's been forever since I wrote cursive, but I remember things looking like that.

It never made sense to me how the fucking letters were done. I was like, "Why the heck is a Z look like that? THAT MAKES NO SENSE." You can see some aspects of the characters in them, but it really looks stupid and is inefficient.

 

[Perknose]

Blah blah blah

I mocked you in my previous post. Why have you not provided a proper response?

A proper response? What, to your troll of Saga? Your mockery was neither funny or clever. Stop cherishing it, this makes you look like an idiot.

Saga provided a view that, rightly or wrongly, is held by a number of educators.* Your response was just a stupid troll, get over yourself.





*Note: I don't happen to necessarily agree with Saga's view, but he didn't just pull it out of his ass.

 

[Exterous]

I stopped writing cursive in my freshman year of college.

I did too but for different reasons. I went to a school that required cursive writing for all papers written in the 4th grade and higher and made sure it was neat and legible. Even when I changed schools I kept the habit and was usually told that I had such nice neat handwriting for a boy. Once I got to college though I had a professor who gave me a 0 on a project because my 'handwriting was so bad'. We had a sit down where I explained what cursive was. He had only been in the country 2 years (spoke very heavily accented english and - I kid you not - would randomly switch to his native language while lecturing and not notice). Anyway - I read my paper to him and he gave me full credit and asked me if I could print from then on. I think that was the last time I wrote in cursive because shortly there after I started my drafting classes

 

[SagaLore]

You have a link to back up that first statement?

Sure.

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/pare...-new-study-says-it-makes-kids-smarter-2498025

http://blueroom.magulang.net/index....eory-why-not-print&catid=44:montessori-theory

 

[Macamus Prime]

It's dea-ud, cuz them thar immigrants can't read too good, soz, we hafta rites in plain letter words.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I used it all the time in school. It was often acceptable to use the standard letters for capitals. Once I was out of school I never used it since then. Typing is 10x faster and everyone can read it.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Cursive's main goal is to be faster than printing. That's gone out the window with electronic input being much faster, with none of the disadvantages of cursive (harder to read, harder to teach/learn).

This.

Though for exactly that reason, the vast majority of the times I write by hand, I write in cursive. I'm fond of my anachronisms and don't intend to give them up.

Just in case any claims of illegibility come up, here's a sample.

ZV

 

[Farmer]

A proper response? What, to your troll of Saga? Your mockery was neither funny or clever. Stop cherishing it, this makes you look like an idiot.

Saga provided a view that, rightly or wrongly, is held by a number of educators.* Your response was just a stupid troll, get over yourself.





*Note: I don't happen to necessarily agree with Saga's view, but he didn't just pull it out of his ass.

Wow, way to overreact. I was joking, and hoping for a jocular response. I guess that didn't go through.

To give your serious post a serious response, the claim that it's "held by a number of educators" is again a claim without any evidence, just like SagaLore's first post. Just because you choose to call me out and accuse me of trolling does nothing to change that. Maybe I should've just said that, since even the slightest ribbing is construed as "trolling."

The links that SagaLore posted above would be considered evidence, so that's fine.

 

[qliveur]

It's useless and sloppy

/thread

 

[Leros]

In elementary school we were forced to use cursive. In junior high and high school, they gave us the choice of printing or typing. We were not allowed to use cursive because it was too hard to read.

I've completely forgotten how to write in cursive.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Cursive's main goal is to be faster than printing. That's gone out the window with electronic input being much faster, with none of the disadvantages of cursive (harder to read, harder to teach/learn).

Shorthand FTW?

Does anyone under the age of 50 know shorthand?

Yo. Picked it up out of curiosity. Also, my research notes are automagically encrypted

 

[AMDZen]

I equate this question to asking why the slide rule died.

I think its them there smart phones

 

[Newbian]

so, now we dont have to use cursive to sign a legal document..or did we ever have to?

As far as I can remember it was not a requirement.

 

[Perknose]

blah blah blah

Look, I'm just not going respect anything you post unless you post it in cursive.

 

[Jeff7]

Does anyone under the age of 50 know shorthand?

I guess I'm helping with that stat. 29, and I've heard the term "shorthand" before, but after checking Wikipedia's entry on it, apparently I never knew what it was.

 

[AstroManLuca]

I guess I'm helping with that stat. 29, and I've heard the term "shorthand" before, but after checking Wikipedia's entry on it, apparently I never knew what it was.

Wow, same here. Some kinda weird moonspeak.

 

[Anubis]

lol i forgot Q looked just like a 2 in cursive

 

[Perknose]

so, now we dont have to use cursive to sign a legal document..or did we ever have to?

As far as I can remember it was not a requirement.

Not entirely true:

Question on signing the naturalization certificate

from certificate instruction, it says
"You must sign your certificate in cursive, and the signature must match your name as it is printed on the certificate"

You must sign, as opposed to print, your name on the certificate. The term "signature" refers to your name in cursive written form, not printed form.​

voter registration signatures:

several states have this rule on the books, including Ohio’s declaration, “A signature must be written in cursive on the petition if it is in cursive on the elector’s registration record” and Delaware County’s “’Signature’ means that person’s written, cursive-style legal mark written in that person’s own hand.”

An Illinois race:

she acknowledged that she had not properly acquired the necessary number of signatures. Many of the voters had printed their names, rather than signing them as the law required.