What card for 60+ fps at 1920x1200 and no AA?

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sgrinavi

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Originally posted by: asintu
ya but those resolutions are not native...i bet it's a big difference.

It looks just as good my 24 at 1680x105 as it does on my 22... to me anyhow.

 

cboath

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Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Originally posted by: Cheex
Originally posted by: angry hampster
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
why do u need 60fps? many games are very playable under that. for example crysis is VERY PLAYABLE at 30fps..

IIRC, the human eye can't discern the difference above 20-25fps anyway.

Good point.

It is all about what your eye perceives as smooth...:thumbsup:

There was a military study where pilots were shown an image of an airplane for a very short period of time...about 1/600th of a second. They were able to not only notice the image, but discern which plane it was.

So we can definitely see above 20-25fps; I know I can for sure.

If it was 1/60th of a second, i might believe it. 1/600? No way. They eye just isn't that fast. Look at a car or truck on the highway. It looks like the wheels are spinning backwards because your eyes can't keep up with the speed of the wheels. Highspeed cameras - the ones that let movies show you slow motion - run at 300fps, not 600fps. And that's really fast. People have been busted for trying the subliminal ad trick using 1 frame out of 30 and it's takes hardware capable of slowing the video down to actually see it. And for those who can actually make out something in real time, they can't pull any detail out of it. They're aware of a break in continuity, but that's about it.

As for games, I can tell a difference above 30 frames a second, but not a huge one. Once it's above 60, to me anyhow, it's gravy. The biggest difference is that you don't notice the change in areas where it slows down due to loading or complex areas or tons of action.
 

WicKeD

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I am using eVGA 8800 Ultra KO , Qx9650 and 2GB DDR3 and Vista x64. I am playing all games, including Crysis (v1.1) at 1900x1200 16:10. I do not worry about FPS, but on the playing experience.

I have yet to experience a slowdown in Crysis that was noticable. If it did slowdown, I couldnt tell.

Don't worry about the FPS. Worry about real-world game play.
 

Tempered81

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Originally posted by: asintu
What current video card can play games consistently at 60+ fps at 1920 x 1200 resolution assuming AA is turned off but details are set to max.?
Also, approximately how long will it keep playing upcoming games at 60+ fps ?

Hd 3870X2 for 440 bucks
 

JonnyBlaze

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Originally posted by: cboath
Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Originally posted by: Cheex
Originally posted by: angry hampster
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
why do u need 60fps? many games are very playable under that. for example crysis is VERY PLAYABLE at 30fps..

IIRC, the human eye can't discern the difference above 20-25fps anyway.

Good point.

It is all about what your eye perceives as smooth...:thumbsup:

There was a military study where pilots were shown an image of an airplane for a very short period of time...about 1/600th of a second. They were able to not only notice the image, but discern which plane it was.

So we can definitely see above 20-25fps; I know I can for sure.

If it was 1/60th of a second, i might believe it. 1/600? No way. They eye just isn't that fast. Look at a car or truck on the highway. It looks like the wheels are spinning backwards because your eyes can't keep up with the speed of the wheels. Highspeed cameras - the ones that let movies show you slow motion - run at 300fps, not 600fps. And that's really fast. People have been busted for trying the subliminal ad trick using 1 frame out of 30 and it's takes hardware capable of slowing the video down to actually see it. And for those who can actually make out something in real time, they can't pull any detail out of it. They're aware of a break in continuity, but that's about it.

As for games, I can tell a difference above 30 frames a second, but not a huge one. Once it's above 60, to me anyhow, it's gravy. The biggest difference is that you don't notice the change in areas where it slows down due to loading or complex areas or tons of action.

Tests with Air force pilots have shown, that they could identify the plane on a flashed picture that was flashed only for 1/220th of a second.

http://www.100fps.com/how_many...mes_can_humans_see.htm


 

asintu

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Originally posted by: jaredpace
Originally posted by: asintu
What current video card can play games consistently at 60+ fps at 1920 x 1200 resolution assuming AA is turned off but details are set to max.?
Also, approximately how long will it keep playing upcoming games at 60+ fps ?

Hd 3870X2 for 440 bucks

some people said it's better to wait couple weeks/months for next gen nvidia cards which will smoke the 3870x2..but then again..i dunno.
 

lyssword

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Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: cboath
Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Originally posted by: Cheex
Originally posted by: angry hampster
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
why do u need 60fps? many games are very playable under that. for example crysis is VERY PLAYABLE at 30fps..

IIRC, the human eye can't discern the difference above 20-25fps anyway.

Good point.

It is all about what your eye perceives as smooth...:thumbsup:

There was a military study where pilots were shown an image of an airplane for a very short period of time...about 1/600th of a second. They were able to not only notice the image, but discern which plane it was.

So we can definitely see above 20-25fps; I know I can for sure.

If it was 1/60th of a second, i might believe it. 1/600? No way. They eye just isn't that fast. Look at a car or truck on the highway. It looks like the wheels are spinning backwards because your eyes can't keep up with the speed of the wheels. Highspeed cameras - the ones that let movies show you slow motion - run at 300fps, not 600fps. And that's really fast. People have been busted for trying the subliminal ad trick using 1 frame out of 30 and it's takes hardware capable of slowing the video down to actually see it. And for those who can actually make out something in real time, they can't pull any detail out of it. They're aware of a break in continuity, but that's about it.

As for games, I can tell a difference above 30 frames a second, but not a huge one. Once it's above 60, to me anyhow, it's gravy. The biggest difference is that you don't notice the change in areas where it slows down due to loading or complex areas or tons of action.

Tests with Air force pilots have shown, that they could identify the plane on a flashed picture that was flashed only for 1/220th of a second.

http://www.100fps.com/how_many...mes_can_humans_see.htm

And pilots are required to have perfect vision and very quick reaction time. I believe Air Force pilots to be the exception, or at least a minority :p
 

imported_wired247

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For bleeding edge and high res gaming, I recommend an SLi setup. 2x8800GTX perhaps, however this limits your motherboard choices, won't be fully utilized by every game, and will cost you an arm and a leg.

For modest resolution a 8800GT is great value for the money, and can run crysis great at the highest settings. However, it is not at 60fps the whole time. The motion blur effect in crysis makes gameplay quite smooth at lower FPS, IMHO.

I am running games on my 720p native plasma, and am quite satisfied with the performance of the e8400 and 8800gt for my specific application.
 

asintu

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Originally posted by: wired247
For bleeding edge and high res gaming, I recommend an SLi setup. 2x8800GTX perhaps, however this limits your motherboard choices, won't be fully utilized by every game, and will cost you an arm and a leg.

For modest resolution a 8800GT is great value for the money, and can run crysis great at the highest settings. However, it is not at 60fps the whole time. The motion blur effect in crysis makes gameplay quite smooth at lower FPS, IMHO.

I am running games on my 720p native plasma, and am quite satisfied with the performance of the e8400 and 8800gt for my specific application.

yeah, i was gonna say that...getting a 23-26'' lcd tv with 720p resolution should be pretty good..you get both a big size and resolution that will make your video card handle new games much longer i guess.
 

cboath

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Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
Originally posted by: cboath
Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Originally posted by: Cheex
Originally posted by: angry hampster
Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
why do u need 60fps? many games are very playable under that. for example crysis is VERY PLAYABLE at 30fps..

IIRC, the human eye can't discern the difference above 20-25fps anyway.

Good point.

It is all about what your eye perceives as smooth...:thumbsup:

There was a military study where pilots were shown an image of an airplane for a very short period of time...about 1/600th of a second. They were able to not only notice the image, but discern which plane it was.

So we can definitely see above 20-25fps; I know I can for sure.

If it was 1/60th of a second, i might believe it. 1/600? No way. They eye just isn't that fast. Look at a car or truck on the highway. It looks like the wheels are spinning backwards because your eyes can't keep up with the speed of the wheels. Highspeed cameras - the ones that let movies show you slow motion - run at 300fps, not 600fps. And that's really fast. People have been busted for trying the subliminal ad trick using 1 frame out of 30 and it's takes hardware capable of slowing the video down to actually see it. And for those who can actually make out something in real time, they can't pull any detail out of it. They're aware of a break in continuity, but that's about it.

As for games, I can tell a difference above 30 frames a second, but not a huge one. Once it's above 60, to me anyhow, it's gravy. The biggest difference is that you don't notice the change in areas where it slows down due to loading or complex areas or tons of action.

Tests with Air force pilots have shown, that they could identify the plane on a flashed picture that was flashed only for 1/220th of a second.

http://www.100fps.com/how_many...mes_can_humans_see.htm

1/220 is still a far cry (no pun intended) from 1/600.
 
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sounds like you are throwing us for a loop here but, future cards for current games would be a safe answer, now equate that on when to buy one and you will be stuck in the loop, enjoy