What card and monitor to get for 1440p

Peppered

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I am in need of a new vid card, want to get away from 1080p. will be playing Guild wars 2 I think didn't have he time to retry the game much before my vid card died. I have witcher 2 also but may not play the game much depending how much I like Guild wars 2.

I want good frame rates and a Monitor that I can use for a long time. Don't see wear 4 k will be cheap enough and have the card to drive it good for some time.

Prefer not to spend a lot if I can keep from doing it. Have a spare AMD card my son gave me to use a HD 770 I believe it is. But don't think it will drive a 1440p monitor good. Want to sty below $1000 if I can the cheaper the cost the better.

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tg2708

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980ti or fury x will be best for max detail in most old and newer games with frame rates above 60fps. Not sure if guild of wars 2 is demanding but you can try the 390(x), going by my 290 performance it gets an average of 40 fps at 1440 in most games and those ares are more powerful and has the advantage of higher vram capacity (best if you are into modding etc) except the fury x which is still has 4gb but plenty enough for 1440p and under.
 

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K thanks the Furyx looks good but may cut me to short on funds to get a monitor to go with it
 

flopper

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390 today, next year we have a whole new die shrink going on double the transistors finally for the same space so todays gpu are old really old in a years time.
 

tg2708

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the most highly recommended here for the top end is 980ti, but since your budget is below $1000, 980ti (also fury x) and a 1440p would run very close to the limit. You could try the 390 or the cut down version of the fury x (fury) as you should get similar performance while saving an extra $100 or a whopping $350 if you go 390.
 

Teizo

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I just ordered a MSI 970 100ME and this monitor by Acer:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009728

Lowest price you will find for a 1440p monitor. Most people want 27 inches for 1440p, but the pixel pitch on this monitor is lower meaning the clarity will be better and on top of that no AA at all will be required due to the 117 dpi rating so a 970 or 390 will be able to push the 1440p well, even with 2xMSAA. 4xMSAA won't be needed.

The 390 is a good card, but I chose the MSI 970 100ME due to less heat and power consumption, plus it over clocks very well.
 
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tential

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I think a Fury + Freesync 1440p monitor is your best option.
If you're willing to spend $1000 you might as well get a good monitor that can handle freesync and high refresh rates and that's your best bet. Sell the card if you want to upgrade next gen and you'll lose at most $50, while still enjoying great performance this whole time. The Sapphire Fury Tri X is a great card, there are a lot of freesync monitors to choose from.
 

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I agree on getting a good monitor with either Freesync or Gsync. They make a difference. Another option would be to get a used 290 or 290x and sell it in a year or year and half and upgrade to any of the new video cards. You can get a 290 for less than $200 and it should handle 1440p fine for the games you want to play. The money you saved u can use to get a nice Freesync monitor and still have some money left
 

Teizo

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I personally demand IPS, and I know they can make an IPS Freesync 144hz monitor...they just have to do it. That is why for the timed being I got the Acer 25 inch 1440p IPS for $270. It's not overly expensive and down the road I can use it as a second monitor when the IPS Freesync monitors come out. I have a feeling while it is good, G-Sync is going to lose out and Nvidia is going to have to adopt Adaptive Freesync since it is going to be part of the new DP 1.3 standard.
 

Omar F1

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I'd vote for GTX980 4GB. It's doing fine over 1440P, of course taking into consideration a current reasonable price compared to newer models.
 

Teizo

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ASUS MG279Q 27in FreeSync 144Hz

Well I'll be. Didn't realize they were out just yet. My next preference....market saturation and lower prices. Good to see one is already out. I'm sure more will be on the way very soon and the premium for free sync will disappear and free sync can actually be free.
 

RussianSensation

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I just ordered a MSI 970 100ME and this monitor by Acer:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009728l.

Congrats on your new parts :thumbsup:

That looks like a solid monitor in that price range. Amazing how it's now possible to buy an IPS 2560x1600 25" and people are still sitting on 21-23" 1080P.

I'd vote for GTX980 4GB. It's doing fine over 1440P, of course taking into consideration a current reasonable price compared to newer models.

That card sits in 'no man's land' for 1440P or 4K gaming. It costs $100 more than a 390X and has almost nothing to show for that $100.

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Another way to look at it, the 980 at retail costs $200 more than a 390/970 but for $100 over the 980 it's possible to get 970 SLI or 390 CF. Either of the latter setups will blow the doors off a 980 at 1440P. 980 primarily makes sense at EVGA B-stock prices imo but at retail $480+ prices it's a horrid buy since some 980Ti cards are $610, while EVGA B-stock 980Ti is $550 right now.

I am in need of a new vid card, want to get away from 1080p. will be playing Guild wars 2 I think didn't have he time to retry the game much before my vid card died. I have witcher 2 also but may not play the game much depending how much I like Guild wars 2.

I want good frame rates and a Monitor that I can use for a long time. Don't see wear 4 k will be cheap enough and have the card to drive it good for some time.

It's possible to get a 40" 4K for $600 US. This monitor might get FreeSync in the future via a firmware upgrade.

It's also possible to get a 28" 4K one for $650 with GSync.

Since you are aiming for 1440P, you can start researching here.

Personally, every monitor I've owned I've had for at least 7 years and since the monitor can be enjoyed for movies, work/productivity, etc. it's something I would spend more $ on vs. a videocard that becomes outdated/obsolete. Chances are you will upgrade your videocard 2-3X over the lifetime of the monitor. As a result, I would much rather buy a $700 monitor and a $300 videocard with your budget rather than a $350 monitor and a $650 videocard.

Just to give you an idea, a $700 GTX780Ti came out November 2013 and that level of performance can be purchased in a $260-280 390/970 barely 2 years later. The same will happen to a $650 Fury X or 980Ti. Unless you can afford to buy $650 cards every 12-15 months, I personally don't think they are worth it if your budget is $1000 for both the monitor and the GPU. Sure, there will be monitors better than what you can buy today but if you buy a $700 monitor today, chances are it will be really solid for many years to come, while a $650 videocard will become a $350 performance level by end of 2016, and $200 performance level by end of 2017. It's not going to be possible to buy a $200 monitor as good as a $700 monitor today by end of 2017 ;).

You should first figure out what display you want and go from there. I think that would make it way easier for you because a good starting point would be a $280-300 290X/390/970 level card as those are more than enough for the games you listed and generally speaking provide the sweet-spot in today's market.

Above that point, at retail prices, 980/Fury/Nano make no sense over those as they won't give you enough performance increase at 1440P to warrant their price increases, while the next level up is $650 980Ti which starts to dramatically cut into your monitor budget.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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tential

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I'd get a GPU now, (AMD) then get Freesync monitor later as there are more and more options coming out. Freesync will be flooded with options, doesn't seem Gsync will get that way.

Get a R9 390 or something cheap, and get a GOOD monitor. You're not going to be upgrading your monitor every 2-3 years, so it makes sense to spend enough to get a good one.
 

Teizo

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Congrats on your new parts :thumbsup:

That looks like a solid monitor in that price range. Amazing how it's now possible to buy an IPS 2560x1600 25" and people are still sitting on 21-23" 1080P.

Thank you. Looking forward to them coming in. I figured the 100ME 970 from MSI would have a high re-sale value next year when the newer stuff comes out over some of the other cards. SLI was fun, but my top 760 started throttling due to heat accumulation. Nothing bad, and performance was still good, but figured it was time to get a card with more Vram and when I saw that monitor I couldn't really pass it up at that price. It is basically the exact same panel as the Dell 25" 1440p, it just doesn't have all the bells and whistles...but I don't need usb 3.0 on my monitor, and I have no need to rotate the screen, so it was a good compromise and fit me perfect.
 

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A Fury (non X) and the BenQ 2730 would run you $1100 (just under actually) and would be a top notch 1440 27" gaming setup. Also shouldn't have to upgrade in the foreseeable future. AMD seems to have a leg up in DX12 so performance should improve as we move on.
 

MagickMan

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980Ti, then add a second later on if you go 4K. If you OC the whosits out of it, a 980 can be a good candidate, as long as you have good airflow in your case.
 

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Thanks all for all of the replies. and thanks for the detailed info and recommendations RussianSensation. you bring up a lot of good points on the value of the cards and a good buy on 4k monitor. The thing about running 4 k monitors is that I see folks spending a lot on GPUS and still get the max of 60fps.
I may just stick with my my 144 hz 1080p monitor until one of the two thing happen. More 1440p Monitors that are IPS and 144hz come out, this should drop the price down. Or we finally see a good quality 4k monitor that is 120HZ or better at a good price.

I would like to wait and see what new cards come out next year hoping they will need only one card to drive a 4k monitor. The problem is all I can do is watch you tube or surf the net at this time till I replace the card.

I don't think I can wait long enough to see what come's out next year as far as better cards.
 

Omar F1

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You should first figure out what display you want and go from there. I think that would make it way easier for you because a good starting point would be a $280-300 290X/390/970 level card as those are more than enough for the games you listed and generally speaking provide the sweet-spot in today's market.

Above that point, at retail prices, 980/Fury/Nano make no sense over those as they won't give you enough performance increase at 1440P to warrant their price increases, while the next level up is $650 980Ti which starts to dramatically cut into your monitor budget.

Just my 2 cents.
Very nice advice, pick the monitor first then move forward into GFX selection.
Thanks for the thoughtful details.
 

flopper

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bought acer xg270hu 144hz screen running it with freesync using a 390.
couldnt be happier
 

MagickMan

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Thanks all for all of the replies. and thanks for the detailed info and recommendations RussianSensation. you bring up a lot of good points on the value of the cards and a good buy on 4k monitor. The thing about running 4 k monitors is that I see folks spending a lot on GPUS and still get the max of 60fps.
I may just stick with my my 144 hz 1080p monitor until one of the two thing happen. More 1440p Monitors that are IPS and 144hz come out, this should drop the price down. Or we finally see a good quality 4k monitor that is 120HZ or better at a good price.

I would like to wait and see what new cards come out next year hoping they will need only one card to drive a 4k monitor. The problem is all I can do is watch you tube or surf the net at this time till I replace the card.

I don't think I can wait long enough to see what come's out next year as far as better cards.

For Pascal (GP100) the target is to run 4k @60FPS with a single GPU, it's basically been NV's unspoken promise to their customers. I'd bank on it.
 

Mondozei

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Chances are you will upgrade your videocard 2-3X over the lifetime of the monitor. As a result, I would much rather buy a $700 monitor and a $300 videocard with your budget rather than a $350 monitor and a $650 videocard.


OP, if there's anything you will take away from this thread then it is this.

Your monitor will last you a long time, so get it right.

The problem is that you'll lock yourself into one ecosystem for a foreseeable amount of time. AMD's cards do better as you go up in resolution. Freesync monitors are also cheaper than G-Sync so you'll save 150-200 dollars just there.

NV on the other hand has a better financial position and while I don't think you have to worry about AMD going under(someone will buy them, their GPU business in particular is simply too valuable), AMD's lesser R&D could make their GPUs less competitive in the future, which is a risk you have to contend with.

Either way, good luck.

RussianSensation said:
Amazing how it's now possible to buy an IPS 2560x1600 25" and people are still sitting on 21-23" 1080P.

This is a sidenote, but I couldn't resist. I'm sitting on a 24" 1080p G-Sync display with a used 980 and it's awesome. The reason why use people these kinds of displays is simple: high refresh rates. Games like Witcher 3 at ultra on 1080 doesn't even come close to 100 fps let alone 144 fps with a 980 - or even a 980 Ti.

Granted, if you sit on a 60 Hz 1080p it might be different but honestly, the glory of high refresh rates beats high resolution any day of the week. (IMO)
 

Tweak155

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Nice... Might as well wait for 120hz+ ultra wide and next gen AMD... Not far out at this point.

I currently have a 60hz 1440p IPS holding me over. It's not perfect but good enough for now.