What can Trump do to lower local property taxes?

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We all know that property theft taxes are the worst tax there is. That said, 50% of property taxes generally go to schools. This is INCREDIBLY punitive to single people and childless households.

Is there anything Trump can do at the Federal level to lower local property taxes? What effect, if any, will school choice, education vouchers, etc. have on them?
 

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So you want more dumb people?

Otherwise blame it on those damn kids getting a free education instead of being in workshops like they should be.
 

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since you're too dumb to know property tax are a local issue, not much.
 

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Private and home schooling. If that covers 100% of the locality, there will be no more public schools in that area. Can't charge taxes to fund something that doesn't exist. I like that idea. The drawback I see is lack of diverse social interaction. People have a natural propensity to stay withing their own circles, or own kind, which could result in unintended segregation.
 

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School quality has a huge impact on the value of your home-it's not uncommon (at least in my state) for essentially the same house be as much as 50% more in a town with excellent schools versus a mediocre school town. And I've noticed the good school towns increase in price faster in good markets and decline more slowly in bad markets.

Property taxes also pay for police, fire, library, local roads-essentially all town services-the stuff that most of us use and need the most.

What can OP do? Sell his house and live in a Winnebago (assuming no property tax on that in your state). Don't rent as you will be paying property taxes indirectly and with a markup by your landlord. Selling and moving to a the lowest taxed town in your region is an alternative, but I would rent-your new neighbors may eventually smarten up and realize that improving their schools is in their financial self-interest. Or suck it up and realize that yes you do in fact receive a lot of benefit from your local tax dollars.

What can Trump do? A venom filled, logic and fact absent 3AM twit spasm is right up his alley.

What can you do that is effective? Get involved in, or at least understand, your local politics. A huge chunk of school expense is payroll (it's something like 80% in my town). The local teacher's union is going to be a huge electoral power locally-find and support local politicians who oppose their demands on a reasonable basis. Increasing teacher pay certainly is not the only, or often even the best, way to improve schools.
 
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O M G !!!!!
OP, with all due respect, you're kidding us...Right?
You're pulling our leg?
You're pulling some future SNL skit? No?

Local and property taxes under this president elect will skyrocket as never before.
You DO realize this, do you not?
When president Donald Trump does all he promised to do concerning taxes and tax cuts and tax breaks for the rich, and doing away with inheritance taxes on the Paris Hilton's of America, and then including his repealing of Obamacare and let me type that again INCLUDING REPEALING OBAMACARE... well, just do the math for yourself.

When incoming federal taxes decrease and the national debt explodes faster than ever before due to Donald Trump tax cuts, that burden in making up the difference always falls back onto the states and local governments. Always!

States can then do either of two things.
And typically states will do BOTH!!!!
Either raise state and local taxes and by raising fees (car tags, license renewals, etc etc), or raise property taxes, or raise state and local taxes, or simply raise the state tax rate.
That's a good one. Simply raise the state tax "rate".
Oh, don't forget, raising the states sales tax.
The sales tax is always a good place to start.

The second and only alternative a state has left other than those mentioned above is to CUT CUT CUT everything.
Chop chop chop money for roads, chop chop chop money for schools, chop chop chop money for education, money for health, chop chop chop money for everything from A to Z throughout state government.

So the question was, what can president Donald Trump do to lower state and local taxes?
HA..HAHA...HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA...................hee hee heeeeeeE.

I have this strange and eerie feeling you maybe voted for Donald Trump?
You swallowed everything Trump fed you hook line and sinker?
Oh boy oh boy oh boy, are you in for an awakening of mass proportion.

And I sit back, put my feet up, and just S M I L E. :D
 
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KMFJD

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Live in one of these if you dont want property taxes....

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We all know that property theft taxes are the worst tax there is. That said, 50% of property taxes generally go to schools. This is INCREDIBLY punitive to single people and childless households.

Is there anything Trump can do at the Federal level to lower local property taxes? What effect, if any, will school choice, education vouchers, etc. have on them?

Education vouchers are usually ways to cut funding to public education, funding that has to be made up. If anything I would probably expect local property taxes to rise due to these initiatives. Have fun!
 

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So you want more dumb people?

Otherwise blame it on those damn kids getting a free education instead of being in workshops like they should be.

How about a higher property tax bracket for bigger families? Then the ones with the most kids will pay the most for public school, how it should be.
 
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Move to a state that doesn't have them. Or at least lower ones. I put my money where my mouth is and moved out of IL and that was one of the reasons. Property tax bills in IL were horrible. My property tax was $10,000 a year. I have a similar house in Kentucky and it's $4900 here.
 
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We all know that property theft taxes are the worst tax there is. That said, 50% of property taxes generally go to schools. This is INCREDIBLY punitive to single people and childless households.

Is there anything Trump can do at the Federal level to lower local property taxes? What effect, if any, will school choice, education vouchers, etc. have on them?
Get rid of tax exemption abuse, especially by religious organizations and their use of tax payers money for their private misogynistic schools by some groups.
http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/watchtower-tax-exemption-pressures-mid-hudson-town
To support this mammoth effort, Watchtower has purchased properties across Orange County and nearby areas. The properties include apartment buildings, single-family homes, a warehouse, a former corporate office building, hotels, offices, and land approved for building residential units. It is expanding its printing press and residential premises in the Town of Shawangunk in southern Ulster.

Yet the Watchtower Society pays almost no property taxes.

http://www.debrapasquella.com/2007/07/whats-truth-among-hasidic-community.html
Welfare burden, tax fraud "Kiryas Joel residents have been alleged to cheat on taxes by claiming that they have a temple, or a place of worship, in their homes. Obtaining tax relief as a house of worship means the property is excused from paying property taxes that support local services, such as public schools, roads, water and sewer, fire and police, and so on, including the funds which subsidize welfare payments.

It is the custom in Kiryas Joel for women who work outside the home to stop doing so at the birth of their second child.[4] Most families have only one income and many children. The resulting poverty rate makes a disproportionate number of families in Kiryas Joel eligible for welfare benefits when compared to the rest of the county; and cost of welfare benefits is subsidized by taxes paid county-wide.

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/fa...-due-to-haredi-special-ed-and-busing-345.html

The Lakewood, New Jersey school district is facing a $4 million budget deficit primarily caused by transportation and special education costs for haredi children who attend private religious schools and yeshivas, the Asbury Park Press reported.

The school board’s President Carl Fink reportedly said that the district is “broke” and said it will try to get financial help from the state and from Ocean County.

Lakewood currently provides transportation for more than 30,000 students attending 103 different schools. Last year, 19,000 of those students attended private schools while only 5,500 attended six public schools. The huge growth in private school students this year is almost double what was expected and is almost exclusively haredi. 2,000 more private school students – almost all haredi – will be added in June.

The school district could save $2.5 million per year if private girls' schools would all end the school day at the same time and the boys’ schools do the same at another time, but the rabbis who own these schools refuse to do that and refuse to have children of different genders share buses.
 
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We all know that property theft taxes are the worst tax there is. That said, 50% of property taxes generally go to schools. This is INCREDIBLY punitive to single people and childless households.

Is there anything Trump can do at the Federal level to lower local property taxes? What effect, if any, will school choice, education vouchers, etc. have on them?
dunno about you, but I prefer an educated population. I have no kids myself, and I gladly pay taxes to our local school district and I know that my parents paid taxes for children other than their own to get an education and other parents paid for mine, so take your stupid, stupid idea and piss off.
public education is a benefit for the community, whether you have children or not.
 
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Would that be something like a National Proposition 13 ? Can't be done except by a Constitutional Amendment on Taxation.
 

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What can Trump do to lower local property taxes?
Trump can bribe local politicians, promise the moon to voters if he gets a tax break, threaten to close his casino, sue anyone who suggests that he pay them after welching on the deal, stuff like that.

Oh, you mean how can he lower your property taxes? Suck it up buttercup, you ain't Trump.
 
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Unlike Income taxes, I find property taxes to be much more acceptable.

Why should someone pay a higher percentage just because they make more for an in-demand job? The tax rate should be a flat %, regardless of your income level. If you need further taxes, implement a VAT (Value added tax) that is paid based on how much you consume, not how much you make.

Property taxes, on the other hand, is simply payment for what you can and do use on a regular basis. It could be a school, it could be local trash pickup, it could be police/firemen. You may not directly use the school if you do not have kids, but even as a conservative I feel that is something everyone should contribute to for the betterment of mankind. We don't need anymore stupid people, we already have enough. Furthermore, unlike income you can actually easily control how much you want to pay in property taxes. Want to pay less in property taxes? Get a cheaper home. Want to pay less percentage in property taxes? Move to an area with lower property taxes. The same cannot be compared to income unless you want to say something stupid like take a job with lower pay.
 

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dunno about you, but I prefer an educated population. I have no kids myself, and I gladly pay taxes to our local school district and I know that my parents paid taxes for children other than their own to get an education and other parents paid for mine, so take your stupid, stupid idea and piss off.
public education is a benefit for the community, whether you have children or not.

But the GOP needs to keep people uneducated to win. Everybody's seen the demo numbers.
 

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While I respect certain conservative values, this is one of the values I hate the most: the "screw everyone else, I got mine" mentality.

Your property taxes don't just go into a void, and you still benefit indirectly from education funding through a more intelligent population (whether or not kids are getting the best education is another story). Besides, just because you might be childless right now doesn't mean you'll be that way forever. Imagine you start raising a family and your kids are just entering school... won't you be glad that you poured money into the system for years beforehand, making sure it's as strong as it is when your kids set foot in the classroom?

I'm not arguing for some socialist utopia. What I'm saying is that there are good reasons why you pay taxes on things you don't directly benefit from, and that a world where people only ever pay taxes for things they use just isn't realistic.