What can I do as a jerk?

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Wyndru

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Continue being an asshole (at work at least), it has benefits such as not having to deal with a lot of bullshit.

My coworker has a gruff way of handling people, so I basically have to be the one who handles most of the "in person" support requests while he sits at his desk working on whatever.

I notice anyone that has been at the same job for many years seems to be this way, almost like it's an acquired art.
 

shortylickens

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Continue being an asshole (at work at least), it has benefits such as not having to deal with a lot of bullshit.

My coworker has a gruff way of handling people, so I basically have to be the one who handles most of the "in person" support requests while he sits at his desk working on whatever.

I notice anyone that has been at the same job for many years seems to be this way, almost like it's an acquired art.

Yeah, you'll never be fired for being a jerk.

Of course, you are less likely to be promoted too.
 

CZroe

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I don't see it as a positive and would actively seek people who aren't like that.

Being security, every day I get a lot more done than my coworkers by being nice and understanding, often with the same people they clash with. I enforce the same rules/policies against the same resenting people and yet they often listen to me where they don't listen to the "asshole" coworkers who barks orders.

It's all in how you present it.

I get a completely different result if it's me barking an order or me relaying a client policy, sympathizing with their view, expressing why the client wants it anyway, and explaining that I have to enforce it or I could lose my job. Sympathizing even without lamenting/resenting the client's policy often puts me on "their side" and they want to help me by doing what "the client" wants anyway. It works wonders even without going through all the motions. I'll tell a truck "If you could please pull up to the line for me so that the next vehicle can get through, I'll be right back with your paperwork. Thanks." where my boss will just grab the papers and tell them to "clear the gate." Numerous times it would prompt an argument, usually after the driver expressed hesitation to pull away without his paperwork, the boss barked his order again with an even more demanding tone (often punctuated with "I don't have to tell you why" or "because I said so"), and the driver resisted (pushed back) and insisted on being treated respectfully. I don't get push back unless I'm cleaning up someone else's mess, after which the person I'm dealing with usually cools down and insists on dealing only with me (wants nothing to do with the jerk).

I usually see both sides demanding "respect" from each other and neither being willing to give any until they receive some. I roll my eyes the moment I hear the "r" word because that is sooo easy to avoid.

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Vdubchaos

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You have to try. I am/was a complete asshole. You know that one guy out of all your friends? I was him. When I got married I decided enough was enough.

You need to stop and think before everything you do. Make the decision to be the nice, to take the fall for something instead of going off on someone (depending on the situation), never be to mean or proud to look the other way, and never be afraid to apologize (even if you think you shouldn't).

That will help you on your path to niceness. Just know, it never gets any easier cause your still an asshole at heart.

Agreed

At the end of the day, he will still have to live with himself.

I don't have any people that work under me but I do have to tell a lot of people what to do etc. I take the nicest approach possible and try to be considerate.

I have EVERY chance to be an asshole if I really wanted to, but that would be rude and uncalled for. I wouldn't be able to live with myself like that.

I also tell people I work with to always come to me if they ever feel that I approached them in a wrong way or did anything wrong.

I WANT TO KNOW!!!!
 

Rakehellion

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You have to try. I am/was a complete asshole. You know that one guy out of all your friends? I was him. When I got married I decided enough was enough.

Loooool! You should write an autobiography and title it Pussywhipped: My Road to Salvation.
 

Rakehellion

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I have EVERY chance to be an asshole if I really wanted to, but that would be rude and uncalled for. I wouldn't be able to live with myself like that.

Welllllll, you're kind of an asshole on the internet, so I'm not sure what they're putting in the water cooler.
 

sunzt

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Nov 27, 2003
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Work in customer service for an insurance company and hit a buzzer whenever you need to deny claims.
 

Vdubchaos

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Welllllll, you're kind of an asshole on the internet, so I'm not sure what they're putting in the water cooler.

Sorry that you feel that way.

I don't mean to be, but I'm not perfect and yes I do notice that I can be an asshole at times.

What I do on the internet is meaningless/worthless.....so even if I am, that's fine, but again I usually have good intentions.
 

Rakehellion

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You need to stop and think before everything you do. Make the decision to be the nice, to take the fall for something instead of going off on someone (depending on the situation), never be to mean or proud to look the other way, and never be afraid to apologize (even if you think you shouldn't).

That will help you on your path to niceness. Just know, it never gets any easier cause your still an asshole at heart.

I don't go off on people and I think I'm pretty fair, but I'm certainly not excessively nice and I'm not out to get walked over.

I get a completely different result if it's me barking an order or me relaying a client policy, sympathizing with their view, expressing why the client wants it anyway, and explaining that I have to enforce it or I could lose my job. Sympathizing even without resenting the client's policy often puts me on "their side" and they want to help me by doing what "the client" wants anyway. It works wonders even without going through all the motions. I'll tell a truck "If you could please pull up to the line for me so that the next vehicle can get through, I'll be right back with your paperwork. Thanks." where my boss will just grab the papers and tell them to "clear the gate." Numerous times it would prompt an argument, usually after the driver expressed hesitation to pull away without his paperwork, the boss barked his order again with an even more demanding tone (often punctuated with "I don't have to tell you why"), and the driver resisted (pushed back). I don't get push back unless I'm cleaning up someone else's mess, after which the person I'm dealing with usually wants nothing to do with the jerk.

It would never even cross my mind to say "would you please" and I doubt I could say it without sounding angry. I'm somewhere in between that and the "clear the gate" guy.
 

CZroe

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I don't go off on people and I think I'm pretty fair, but I'm certainly not excessively nice and I'm not out to get walked over.



It would never even cross my mind to say "would you please" and I doubt I could say it without sounding angry. I'm somewhere in between that and the "clear the gate" guy.

"If you could pull up to the line for me that'd be greeaaat." /OfficeSpace

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motsm

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Being an ass hole typically just means your honest, and that's absolutely a strength.
 

CZroe

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Being an ass hole typically just means your honest, and that's absolutely a strength.
No. That's how assholes typically justify it. "It's the hard truth that I didn't have to explain anything to that little shit." Er, well, you did have to if you wanted to avoid the conflict, even if the truth is that you didn't have to. An employee who creates conflict for no other reason than to be confrontationally honest is not a good employee. I would tell that guy that it's not about what you have to do but about what you should do, so who cares if that's the truth, especially when the alternative isn't lying or being dishonest?
 

Red Squirrel

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You are CEO material. I hear EA is hiring, get that resume polished up. Once you get that job you can fire all the devs, make all the shareholders happy because of the money you saved by firing all those people, and triple your salary. Buy shares right before you do this. Before the ship sinks because there are actually no more new games being produced due to no devs, cash out. Be sure to take a severance package too.
 

phucheneh

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No. That's how assholes typically justify it. "It's the hard truth that I didn't have to explain anything to that little shit." Er, well, you did have to if you wanted to avoid the conflict, even if the truth is that you didn't have to. An employee who creates conflict for no other reason than to be confrontationally honest is not a good employee. I would tell that guy that it's not about what you have to do but about what you should do, so who cares if that's the truth, especially when the alternative isn't lying or being dishonest?

Holy crap. Just quit trying to understand English. You fail.

He means 'I'm blunt and truthful and sometimes people get offended.' If you think that's what you posted above...again; take reading comprehension lessons.

To others, asshole doesn't mean 'ruthless money-grubbing douchebag.'

I am honest, to-the-point, and commonly offend people by being that way. I also tend to be overly-sensitive in some ways and highly empathetic. People need to quit getting their ideas about 'how people are' from one-dimensional sitcom characters.