What brand of button down shirt do you wear, and why?

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alkemyst

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There is a big difference of short sleeved button down and a short sleeved shirt with a tie.

 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
There is a big difference of short sleeved button down and a short sleeved shirt with a tie.

A. you look like a douche and B. you look like a tool?
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: alkemyst
There is a big difference of short sleeved button down and a short sleeved shirt with a tie.

A. you look like a douche and B. you look like a tool?

Well, if in situation A you're wearing jeans and the shirt is casual then I'm inclined to grant a pass.

However, short sleeved dress shirts should not be worn with slacks of any sort (even "casual" slacks like chinos), and certainly not with a tie. A short-sleeved dress shirt with khaki colored chinos and a tie makes one look like the manager at a fast-food restaurant. It's a half-step away from a pocket protector.

ZV
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: alkemyst
There is a big difference of short sleeved button down and a short sleeved shirt with a tie.

A. you look like a douche and B. you look like a tool?

Well, if in situation A you're wearing jeans and the shirt is casual then I'm inclined to grant a pass.

However, short sleeved dress shirts should not be worn with slacks of any sort (even "casual" slacks like chinos), and certainly not with a tie. A short-sleeved dress shirt with khaki colored chinos and a tie makes one look like the manager at a fast-food restaurant. It's a half-step away from a pocket protector.

ZV

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nakedfrog

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I like Dragonfly and BC Ethic. Some of them, anyway.

Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: 40Hands
I always wear short sleeve button down shirts to work. What is so bad about short sleeve shirts? Long sleeves are just too annoying.

you look like a tool?

Aren't you one of those guys that likes wearing a tie? ;)
 

torpid

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I don't wear a lot of dress shirts anymore, but I really like 7 Diamonds. I like how they look and they are crazy comfortable. If I ever had to wear "real" dress shirts, though, I'd go for no-iron shirts for sure. Even if you have a perfectly pressed shirt, the instant you sit down and then stand up again, it's wrinkled.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I like Dragonfly and BC Ethic. Some of them, anyway.

Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: 40Hands
I always wear short sleeve button down shirts to work. What is so bad about short sleeve shirts? Long sleeves are just too annoying.

you look like a tool?

Aren't you one of those guys that likes wearing a tie? ;)

A tie with a no iron brooks brother shirt ;)


And my dimple is fucking perfect, with the tie exactly halfway between the top and bottom of my belt.



Now I just need some money for nicer shoes.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
However, short sleeved dress shirts should not be worn with slacks of any sort (even "casual" slacks like chinos), and certainly not with a tie. A short-sleeved dress shirt with khaki colored chinos and a tie makes one look like the manager at a fast-food restaurant. It's a half-step away from a pocket protector.

I've worn short-sleeve dress shirts with dress pants before.... I have no idea where you get such a scornful idea from that it's "bad." Unless you're doing something such as washing your hands, it looks tacky as hell to roll up your sleeves. Although, I don't wear them with a tie... that'd just look kind of weird.

But a (casual?) dress shirt with jeans? Now that's just silly. Unless you'd be referring more toward a polo (which is incidentally what I'm wearing at the moment :p).
 

nakedfrog

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I guess I misunderstood, anyway. I figured this just meant shirts that you button. I only have the one proper dress shirt, and it's long sleeved. I think I got it at Structure or Express, they were the only place carrying the style of collar I was looking for.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I like Dragonfly and BC Ethic. Some of them, anyway.

Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: 40Hands
I always wear short sleeve button down shirts to work. What is so bad about short sleeve shirts? Long sleeves are just too annoying.

you look like a tool?

Aren't you one of those guys that likes wearing a tie? ;)

A tie with a no iron brooks brother shirt ;)


And my dimple is fucking perfect, with the tie exactly halfway between the top and bottom of my belt.



Now I just need some money for nicer shoes.

damn corporate nerd.

Tommy Bahama and some khaki's for the win while working.



 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
However, short sleeved dress shirts should not be worn with slacks of any sort (even "casual" slacks like chinos), and certainly not with a tie. A short-sleeved dress shirt with khaki colored chinos and a tie makes one look like the manager at a fast-food restaurant. It's a half-step away from a pocket protector.

I've worn short-sleeve dress shirts with dress pants before.... I have no idea where you get such a scornful idea from that it's "bad." Unless you're doing something such as washing your hands, it looks tacky as hell to roll up your sleeves. Although, I don't wear them with a tie... that'd just look kind of weird.

But a (casual?) dress shirt with jeans? Now that's just silly. Unless you'd be referring more toward a polo (which is incidentally what I'm wearing at the moment :p).

Lots of tech people wear short sleeved dress shirts. It's still not a good idea. A short-sleeved dress shirt with dress pants makes a person look like a night manager at McDonald's, it's simply not considered a "professional" image. Whether that's "right" or not is irrelevant; it's reality. Short sleeved dress shirts with slacks are the mark of the geek. If you work for NASA as a rocket scientist, want to emulate Ronny Howard from his time on "Happy Days", or have a reputation as a hipster and the required black plastic glasses, then a short sleeved dress shirt may be right for you. If you are in the business world facing customers, you just plain don't do it.

As far as a casual dress shirt to wear with jeans, Columbia has a few. This one, for example. Other that a casual dress shirt like that, a short sleeved dress shirt is a bad idea.

ZV
 

blackdogdeek

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: LS21
Originally posted by: Vic
I have a few shirts of the Nordstroms brand, and I have to say those are quite well made and about the longest lasting I've ever seen.

Don't waste your money on no-iron shirts. And don't wash and iron them yourself either. Either way, it always shows. It's usually only about a buck or so a shirt, it looks 100 times better, and your shirts will last much longer
you have got absolutely no idea.

i crumple my BB shirts on a carry on and when i pull them out they'll be crisper than your department store shirt... especially nordstroms. i had 2 of their house shirts and they literally ripped at the bottom on the first and only wash. back to the store they went

Most non-iron shirts are worthless. Except brooks brothers. I got 6 shirts and just cycle through em, no problem. Go on business trip, take out of luggage, hang it, and the next day, it's fine.

BB non iron = ultimate

i love my bb non-iron shirts. i have never seen a shirt look as good or better than pressed shirts right out of the dryer. they really are amazing.

i wait for the sales and get them 3 for $150. i have 9. but 2 are not really usable because of some fraying that has started after a year of weekly washing.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: LS21
Originally posted by: Vic
I have a few shirts of the Nordstroms brand, and I have to say those are quite well made and about the longest lasting I've ever seen.

Don't waste your money on no-iron shirts. And don't wash and iron them yourself either. Either way, it always shows. It's usually only about a buck or so a shirt, it looks 100 times better, and your shirts will last much longer
you have got absolutely no idea.

i crumple my BB shirts on a carry on and when i pull them out they'll be crisper than your department store shirt... especially nordstroms. i had 2 of their house shirts and they literally ripped at the bottom on the first and only wash. back to the store they went

Most non-iron shirts are worthless. Except brooks brothers. I got 6 shirts and just cycle through em, no problem. Go on business trip, take out of luggage, hang it, and the next day, it's fine.

BB non iron = ultimate

i love my bb non-iron shirts. i have never seen a shirt look as good or better than pressed shirts right out of the dryer. they really are amazing.

i wait for the sales and get them 3 for $150. i have 9. but 2 are not really usable because of some fraying that has started after a year of weekly washing.

PSA:

half year is the normal 3 for 150. For the first 6 hours on Dec 26, not only is it 3 for 150, but it's 10-15% off ON TOP of that.
 

Eeezee

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They have brands? o_O

I wear any shirt that feels comfortable and looks nice.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Lots of tech people wear short sleeved dress shirts. It's still not a good idea. A short-sleeved dress shirt with dress pants makes a person look like a night manager at McDonald's, it's simply not considered a "professional" image. Whether that's "right" or not is irrelevant; it's reality. Short sleeved dress shirts with slacks are the mark of the geek. If you work for NASA as a rocket scientist, want to emulate Ronny Howard from his time on "Happy Days", or have a reputation as a hipster and the required black plastic glasses, then a short sleeved dress shirt may be right for you. If you are in the business world facing customers, you just plain don't do it.

We dress "for the customer" (hence why we have to dress like this even when half of us never even meet one) and no one's ever said anything about short-sleeve dress shirts, so I really don't think this sort of stigmatism is correct. Although, I work in a technical position and see both types of shirts. I'd say if you're trying to dress business casual (which is what I do) then it's fine, but anything more than that is not. It'd just be weird if you wore a short-sleeved dress shirt with a suit jacket :p.

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
As far as a casual dress shirt to wear with jeans, Columbia has a few. This one, for example. Other that a casual dress shirt like that, a short sleeved dress shirt is a bad idea.ZV

Alright there, Al Borland ;).
 

Zenmervolt

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Oct 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Lots of tech people wear short sleeved dress shirts. It's still not a good idea. A short-sleeved dress shirt with dress pants makes a person look like a night manager at McDonald's, it's simply not considered a "professional" image. Whether that's "right" or not is irrelevant; it's reality. Short sleeved dress shirts with slacks are the mark of the geek. If you work for NASA as a rocket scientist, want to emulate Ronny Howard from his time on "Happy Days", or have a reputation as a hipster and the required black plastic glasses, then a short sleeved dress shirt may be right for you. If you are in the business world facing customers, you just plain don't do it.

We dress "for the customer" (hence why we have to dress like this even when half of us never even meet one) and no one's ever said anything about short-sleeve dress shirts, so I really don't think this sort of stigmatism is correct. Although, I work in a technical position and see both types of shirts. I'd say if you're trying to dress business casual (which is what I do) then it's fine, but anything more than that is not. It'd just be weird if you wore a short-sleeved dress shirt with a suit jacket :p.

I guess it depends on the industry. The Finance background has stuck with me even though I've been out of that industry for a few years. To be fair though, it's not likely that someone would say anything about it, and when I'm working with internal IT or IT from a vendor I generally expect some eccentricity (like the guy who falls asleep in about 60% of our meetings but is a kickass technical resource who can make our system do things even the designers didn't think it could).

I still don't think they're a great idea for consulting or for more business-focused roles.

Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
As far as a casual dress shirt to wear with jeans, Columbia has a few. This one, for example. Other that a casual dress shirt like that, a short sleeved dress shirt is a bad idea.

Alright there, Al Borland ;).

When I'm out cutting down trees with my Binford 6100 Chain Saw, there's nothing I like more than wearing a good flannel shirt. ;)

ZV
 

imported_Imp

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I use to hate shot sleeve button downs, but now I love them. Only problem is I'm an XS so practically every major brand that makes non-retarded patterns (looking at you H&M) is oversized. Levi's make pretty nice ones.
 

Vincent

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I like fitted Alfani brand shirts from Macy's. Regular fit shirts balloon on me too much. These shirts fit me better and I have found many my size on the clearance racks.
 

40Hands

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: 40Hands
I always wear short sleeve button down shirts to work. What is so bad about short sleeve shirts? Long sleeves are just too annoying.

you look like a tool?

You're using the insult "tool" in the wrong way. It doesn't fit in this context.

Anyways, I can dress in a more casual way because I work in the IT world doing many different things that require me to carry and lift heavy objects and get under peoples desks. I wear short sleeves and cargo pants with regular shoes.

People shouldn't be so worried about what others are wearing and focus on more important things.