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What Audio Compression format do you use?

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I rip everything to WAV.

Sounds the best. There is enough harddrive space now a days to not worry about file size of music. And since I dont use any portables WAV is fine. I could always just convert them from the WAV files to make mp3's if I wanted to make them portable anyway.
 
Originally posted by: tk109
I rip everything to WAV.

Sounds the best. There is enough harddrive space now a days to not worry about file size of music. And since I dont use any portables WAV is fine. I could always just convert them from the WAV files to make mp3's if I wanted to make them portable anyway.

Why don't you use FLAC or another lossless codec? Half the size, it'll be an easy convert, and you can use tags.
 
i use 192kbps MP3 either WMP or iTunes. yeah i know it's crap but since i can't tell the difference and i only have an ipod mini with 4GB, i can't have all my music as lossless.
 
Originally posted by: keeleysam
Originally posted by: tk109
I rip everything to WAV.

Sounds the best. There is enough harddrive space now a days to not worry about file size of music. And since I dont use any portables WAV is fine. I could always just convert them from the WAV files to make mp3's if I wanted to make them portable anyway.

Why don't you use FLAC or another lossless codec? Half the size, it'll be an easy convert, and you can use tags.

True that, no sense in ripping to PCM WAV when you can use lossless.
 
Originally posted by: keeleysam
Originally posted by: tk109
I rip everything to WAV.

Sounds the best. There is enough harddrive space now a days to not worry about file size of music. And since I dont use any portables WAV is fine. I could always just convert them from the WAV files to make mp3's if I wanted to make them portable anyway.

Why don't you use FLAC or another lossless codec? Half the size, it'll be an easy convert, and you can use tags.

I dont need tags. All I need is the song name which EAC gets automaticly. And I'd rather play it safe with WAV and not be wondering if that smaller file size from anything else is actually hurting the sound quality. Rather have all the bits I can possibly get thats pulled off from the CD. I have everything hooked up to an audiophile system. Any little thing can make a noticable difference.
 
Originally posted by: tk109
Originally posted by: keeleysam
Originally posted by: tk109
I rip everything to WAV.

Sounds the best. There is enough harddrive space now a days to not worry about file size of music. And since I dont use any portables WAV is fine. I could always just convert them from the WAV files to make mp3's if I wanted to make them portable anyway.

Why don't you use FLAC or another lossless codec? Half the size, it'll be an easy convert, and you can use tags.

I dont need tags. All I need is the song name which EAC gets automaticly. And I'd rather play it safe with WAV and not be wondering if that smaller file size from anything else is actually hurting the sound quality. Rather have all the bits I can possibly get thats pulled off from the CD.

It does not hurt the sound quality; not "I think it doesn't", it just straight up doesn't. Don't believe me? Take a WAV, encode it to FLAC, ALAC, APE, whatever, and then convert it back to WAV. Do a bit-for-bit comparison using whatever program you prefer, they will be the EXACT SAME FILES. It's called lossless for a reason...
 
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: tk109
Originally posted by: keeleysam
Originally posted by: tk109
I rip everything to WAV.

Sounds the best. There is enough harddrive space now a days to not worry about file size of music. And since I dont use any portables WAV is fine. I could always just convert them from the WAV files to make mp3's if I wanted to make them portable anyway.

Why don't you use FLAC or another lossless codec? Half the size, it'll be an easy convert, and you can use tags.

I dont need tags. All I need is the song name which EAC gets automaticly. And I'd rather play it safe with WAV and not be wondering if that smaller file size from anything else is actually hurting the sound quality. Rather have all the bits I can possibly get thats pulled off from the CD.

It does not hurt the sound quality; not "I think it doesn't", it just straight up doesn't. Don't believe me? Take a WAV, encode it to FLAC, ALAC, APE, whatever, and then convert it back to WAV. Do a bit-for-bit comparison using whatever program you prefer, they will be the EXACT SAME FILES. It's called lossless for a reason...

It has to be losing something if it's half the space. Half those bits have to go somewhere no? People said that upconverting a 16 bit CD to 24 bit wouldn't help. But it does. Either way the technicallities dont matter. Audio is very finicky and subtle. All I know is I've tried a lot of different formats and I've found WAV to be the best. I have a very revealing system and like WAV and have the space. I'd rather keep it as close to the CD as possible. I'm happy with it that way and have peace of mind. What my ears hear is what matters most though🙂

And I have like hundreds of gigs left of space on my harddrive and room for another drive. So the space saved is really a moot point.
 
Originally posted by: tk109
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: tk109
Originally posted by: keeleysam
Originally posted by: tk109
I rip everything to WAV.

Sounds the best. There is enough harddrive space now a days to not worry about file size of music. And since I dont use any portables WAV is fine. I could always just convert them from the WAV files to make mp3's if I wanted to make them portable anyway.

Why don't you use FLAC or another lossless codec? Half the size, it'll be an easy convert, and you can use tags.

I dont need tags. All I need is the song name which EAC gets automaticly. And I'd rather play it safe with WAV and not be wondering if that smaller file size from anything else is actually hurting the sound quality. Rather have all the bits I can possibly get thats pulled off from the CD.

It does not hurt the sound quality; not "I think it doesn't", it just straight up doesn't. Don't believe me? Take a WAV, encode it to FLAC, ALAC, APE, whatever, and then convert it back to WAV. Do a bit-for-bit comparison using whatever program you prefer, they will be the EXACT SAME FILES. It's called lossless for a reason...

It has to be losing something if it's half the space. Half those bits have to go somewhere no? People said that upconverting a 16 bit CD to 24 bit wouldn't help. But it does. Either way the technicallities dont matter. Audio is very finicky and subtle. All I know is I've tried a lot of different formats and I've found WAV to be the best. I have a very revealing system and like WAV and have the space. I'd rather keep it as close to the CD as possible. I'm happy with it that way and have peace of mind. What my ears hear is what matters most though🙂

And I have like hundreds of gigs left of space on my harddrive and room for another drive. So the space saved is really a moot point.

Do you ever zip files? Do you think that something happens to those files when you compress them and then decompress them using zip or rar?

It's the same idea.
 
Originally posted by: tk109
Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Originally posted by: tk109
Originally posted by: keeleysam
Originally posted by: tk109
I rip everything to WAV.

Sounds the best. There is enough harddrive space now a days to not worry about file size of music. And since I dont use any portables WAV is fine. I could always just convert them from the WAV files to make mp3's if I wanted to make them portable anyway.

Why don't you use FLAC or another lossless codec? Half the size, it'll be an easy convert, and you can use tags.

I dont need tags. All I need is the song name which EAC gets automaticly. And I'd rather play it safe with WAV and not be wondering if that smaller file size from anything else is actually hurting the sound quality. Rather have all the bits I can possibly get thats pulled off from the CD.

It does not hurt the sound quality; not "I think it doesn't", it just straight up doesn't. Don't believe me? Take a WAV, encode it to FLAC, ALAC, APE, whatever, and then convert it back to WAV. Do a bit-for-bit comparison using whatever program you prefer, they will be the EXACT SAME FILES. It's called lossless for a reason...

It has to be losing something if it's half the space. Half those bits have to go somewhere no? People said that upconverting a 16 bit CD to 24 bit wouldn't help. But it does. Either way the technicallities dont matter. Audio is very finicky and subtle. All I know is I've tried a lot of different formats and I've found WAV to be the best. I have a very revealing system and like WAV and have the space. I'd rather keep it as close to the CD as possible. I'm happy with it that way and have peace of mind. What my ears hear is what matters most though🙂

Wow, you'd be getting TOS #8 violations out the wazoo at HydrogenAudio. The bits aren't going anywhere, they still exist; and the technicalities DO matter, because technically, you're wrong. Going from a 16 bit CD to a 24 bit WAV does not help, it's like adding a 5 inch white border around an 8x11 picture, it's useless, unoccupied space. A lossless copy is IDENTICAL to the CD; not as close as possible, not a good imitation, IDENTICAL.

Webster's dictionary sez:

Main Entry: iden·ti·cal
Pronunciation: I-'den-ti-k&l, &-
Function: adjective
Etymology: probably from Medieval Latin identicus, from Late Latin identitas
1 : being the same : SELFSAME <the identical place we stopped before>

By the way, any differences your ears are hearing between a PCM WAV and a lossless copy of the file are non-existent and are purely placebo; do an ABX test, you'll fail, because you won't be able to pick two copies of the same file apart. I leave you with two statements:

1. Do some reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lossless#Audio_compression
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golomb_coding

2. Proof that lossless is exactly what it means:
Here is a screenshot from EAC showing that the WAVs I just ripped off this CD are in fact an "AccurateRip" and the CRCs of the files I just made are equal to those calculated by the only other person who ripped the same pressing of the same CD. I'm using a single because I'm not going to waste my time ripping an entire album to prove you wrong
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Here's me using iTunes to create an Apple Lossless file out of "Discotheque".
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Here's me making it a WAV again.
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And here's my nominee for Ownage of the Year, EAC says the files are identical.
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Thank you, and Merry Christmas.

:music: You wanna be the song, be the song that you hear in your heaaaaad :music:
 
I use FLAC to archive my music.

I use LAME --preset fast standard to make a 2nd MP3 copy to use with my portable devices.

I find it's a good quality/filesize combo.
 
FLAC for archive, would like to use Ogg Vorbis for portable use but due to mp3's domination in that area that is what I currently use. If/when we get something to replace mp3 in popularity I'll always have the FLAC files to convert into that format.
 
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