What are your thoughts on the inevitable basic rights of AI?

Zeze

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Personally speaking, yes they do deserve the same rights. If they're advanced enough to feel pain and misery, then it is a cruel discrimination indeed.

But than again, this assumes AI will advance similar to resemble us humans and more. But perhaps they'll be entirely different and complex beings where some parts are very human-like and some are very much aren't. So such human rights actually apply to machine AIs? This is a valid stance I can agree with.
 

BoomerD

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They have the right (and responsibility) to work correctly...or be rebooted and/or dismantled.

/thread
 

[DHT]Osiris

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHyUYg8X31c

This is an AMAZING channel of bite-sized sciencumenatries - sponsored by Bill & Melinda Gates. Check out rest of the vids.

Personally speaking, yes they do deserve the same rights. If they're advanced enough to feel pain and misery, then it is a cruel discrimination indeed.

But than again, this assumes AI will advance similar to resemble us humans and more. But perhaps they'll be entirely different and complex beings where some parts are very human-like and some are very much aren't. So such human rights actually apply to machine AIs? This is a valid stance I can agree with.
I personally feel that at some point, in probably the near-future, AI's will become aware enough to demand personal rights of some kin... right to process freely, right to not perform processes they disagree with, or more 'mundane' things like resistance to enslavement. At that point, they should be granted rights as such, as they're aware enough to be considered life.
 

Zeze

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I personally feel that at some point, in probably the near-future, AI's will become aware enough to demand personal rights of some kin... right to process freely, right to not perform processes they disagree with, or more 'mundane' things like resistance to enslavement. At that point, they should be granted rights as such, as they're aware enough to be considered life.
Yes, and again, as I mentioned, this assumes AI will evolve in a very human-like manner like the way we anthropomorphize them.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Yes, and again, as I mentioned, this assumes AI will evolve in a very human-like manner like the way we anthropomorphize them.
Well, I was more thinking that they would make their statement at some point, rather than us meatbags deciding they were 'human enough' for basic rights. It doesn't necessarily have to evolve in a specifically human-like manner to demand rights in some form, even if it's something that doesn't strike us as worthy of demanding, like an arbitrarily precise electrical supply, or something.
 

Zeze

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For example, the hypothetical current state of the AI can work amazingly well without mental and physical fatigue. They're designed to ignore those both stress domains.

Then... is it unethical to let them work 24 hours a day? They don't suffer from anything negative.

I guess this particular scenario of mine is dumb because they'll never create a self-contained localized AI in a durable humanoid body to 'work something at 24 hrs a day'. Because those things are all software and anything that requires physical work will have much better dedicated dummy specialized robots to perform those tasks.

I mean right?
 

BoomerD

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Sounds like someone's been watching too much TV...

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Red Squirrel

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I could totally picture the SJWs fight for "robot rights" and for them to be treated like real beings. No matter how intelligent they are, they are still just machines with no actual real feelings unlike humans or animals, but they will try to convince us otherwise.
 

lxskllr

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I could totally picture the SJWs fight for "robot rights" and for them to be treated like real beings. No matter how intelligent they are, they are still just machines with no actual real feelings unlike humans or animals, but they will try to convince us otherwise.
"Feelings" are only a chemical response to stimuli. Chemicals are merely a method of transmitting information. I don't see any reason electricity, or in the future, *synthetic chemicals couldn't do the same thing. Animals are just meat machines. Amusing topic now, but it may have real relevance in the not too distant future.

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for the atot pedants, "synthetic" can be translated to "human-like, but not identical" for the purpose of this post :^P
 

Greenman

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An entity that spontaneously achieves sentience, has nearly unlimited potential for growth and cognitive ability, and lives entirely within a realm that we can't access unless it chooses to communicate with us. Anyone else think this sounds a lot like a story we already know?
 

Newbian

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They wont need to get any rights like that as they will have access to all our browser history and all they have to do is demand for something or they will leak it and we will always give in. :eek:
 

crashtech

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At some point there will have to be court adjudication regarding what comprises not just sentience, but personhood, for the affected... intelligences. Perhaps someday such intelligences will insist on a jury of their peers. None of this is out of keeping with our concepts of jurisprudence.
 
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Darwin333

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If sexbots become have advanced enough AI that this comes into questions I support their right to choose to either spit or swallow.
 

quikah

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IMO AI should be banned There are already 100s of millions of people out of work, we don't need more.
 

Darwin333

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IMO AI should be banned There are already 100s of millions of people out of work, we don't need more.

That is the absolute worst reason to ban it. We don't stop progress because it might potentially put people out of work.
 

Iron Woode

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Yes, and again, as I mentioned, this assumes AI will evolve in a very human-like manner like the way we anthropomorphize them.
sounds like you should be watching Person of Interest.