What are your thoughts on Suicide?

Mayne

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I would never do it. but my sister/roommate did it last saturday.
 

Mayne

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she wasn't successful when she jumped off a cliff...she's pretty banged up though. its really messing with my head last few days.
 

Mayne

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I don't know man..i'm not a psychologist...im guessing a fight with her boyfriend..fucked up relationship with her daughters...lots of possibilities. It was a scary night for on saturday with my niece/not her daugther waking me up at midnight saying "Auntie Jane is saying she is going go kill herself"...and an hour later her waking me back up "she did it" the cops are on the way.
 

GrumpyMan

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To borrow a saying, "It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem." But I don't have long lasting depression problems, so I'm no authority on the subject.
 

Mayne

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she is home now and resting. she said "i slipped"...who goes to the scaborough bluffs at midnight while its raining and muddy? I'm happy she is okay, but its really messing with me.
 

Red Squirrel

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Damn that sucks, hope she gets the help she needs.

Last year around this time I got a depression. I had suicidal thoughts but had to fight it, I knew it was not the answer. I didn't actually want to die, but I just wanted the feelings to go away and felt hopeless. It's hard to even explain, because even if everything in your life is going well like it is for me, none of that matters when you get depression.
 
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Mayne

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Damn that sucks, hope she gets the help she needs.

Last year around this time I got a depression. I had suicidal thoughts but had to fight it, I knew it was not the answer. I didn't actually want to die, but I just wanted the feelings to go away and felt hopeless. It's hard to even explain, because even if everything in your life is going well like it is for me, none of that matters when you get depression.

I have a hard time understanding depression. But I will be there for her as best as i can.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Unless you're nearing end of life, suicide is a cowardly thing. It never makes anything "better" for those you leave behind. If there are kids involved, you have an obligation to hang in there if only for them. That said, it's an expression of mental illness and thinking rationally often isn't possible. However, suicide is never a sudden thing. Withdrawal and refusal to talk about what's bothering them is a frequent sign.
 

Rifter

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I know a few people who have attempted it and failed, and a few that have succeed.

Personally i dont think i would ever do it unless i was put in a situation where i truly believed it was the best option given the circumstances and that by doing so i would be saving others.
 

nakedfrog

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I know a few people who have attempted it and failed, and a few that have succeed.

Personally i dont think i would ever do it unless i was put in a situation where i truly believed it was the best option given the circumstances and that by doing so i would be saving others.
As Magnus notes, people are often not in a space where they have the capacity for rational thought when the incident occurs.
 
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dasherHampton

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What is there to say?

I can't put myself into the mindset of a person who would rather cease to exist than roll the dice on another day of life. No one can who hasn't been there.
 

Mayne

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I don't like this worry in my life..i have enough problems
 

Zeze

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Unless you're nearing end of life, suicide is a cowardly thing. It never makes anything "better" for those you leave behind. If there are kids involved, you have an obligation to hang in there if only for them. That said, it's an expression of mental illness and thinking rationally often isn't possible. However, suicide is never a sudden thing. Withdrawal and refusal to talk about what's bothering them is a frequent sign.
You assume that people who considered suicide are healthy to begin with.. oh you mentioned it on the second half.

All my life, I went through some very tough and effed up times like most of us. But I always held a positive outlook and there was hope. For the first time in my life I lost that hope for few weeks some time ago.

I totally understand it. It's completely debilitating, bleak, and awful.
 

Red Squirrel

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I have a hard time understanding depression. But I will be there for her as best as i can.

Just being there will help her a lot. When I went through it I found being with family helped. She may need to see a counselor and maybe a doctor too (to get antidepressants). Won't hurt to go on a couple month round of them. That's about how long I went on and been fine since without them. The thing with depression though, you have to want to help yourself, a lot of it is personal strength to persevere and it can be very hard and exhausting. So she'll need to WANT help. Hopefully she does.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I was clinically depressed for years and angry. Anger and depression are two sides of the same coin. I was just too stubborn to contemplate suicide. I was prescribed drugs but, didn't take them because they flatlined me. I'd rather feel angry or depressed than nothing at all. Eventually, I got help after a long time of destructive behavior and I got better. If you need help, make use of the professionals both psychiatric and clergy. Some are poor and some are good just like every profession. The bottom line is you have to work at it.
 

balloonshark

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The bad part about depression is being around a bunch of people who don't understand when the person suffering barely understands what is going on themselves. Plus we are taught to put on a smiley face and pretend we are ok which is why sometimes there aren't any signs before a suicide or suicide attempt.

Depression is pain. Mental pain that doesn't let up. It's like you're looking up from the bottom of a well and what light you can see keeps getting smaller and smaller. Nothing gives you pleasure, you look forward to nothing and you constantly expect bad things to happen.

The best thing a person can do is seek out professional help and keep at it until you get the help you need. Getting on the right meds for you and getting them in your system can take time. Therapy can also help.
 

BurnItDwn

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Suicide is scary to me. I have a close family member who made an attempt and ended up hospitalized for 1+ month as a result.
I think in some cases, people who have terminal illnesses who are near the end of their days should be free to decide when they are ready to die.

I think most people who want to commit suicide, or most people who try it are desperate, and, most of them never try again if they survive the first attempt.

I think this means that most folks who consider it, really feel like they are at the end of their rope and helpless, but, really they need a lot of help to get through a temporary shitstorm of hell, which will eventually pass, and things will likely improve.

Most people who are clinically depressed to the point of self harm tend to see their lives as having no value, and feel that they do not deserve to breathe the air we breathe. Its not easy to solve. Also, most people who are badly depressed are not believed when they say they are depressed, and people generally do not understand mental illness. In addition, people tend to underestimate its intensity vastly.

The world is a dark and cruel place, but, life is worth a shot.