purbeast0
No Lifer
so i've accepted a new job with another company and have not told my company just yet. i don't plan on telling them until i have an exact start date w/the new company. it is a contingent offer and i won't know the exact start date until hopefully next week.
i'm currently working as a senior software engineer.
the offer is $10k more than i'm making now + a bonus (that is unknown at this time), and has much better benefits and will be much better career wise in the long run. i'm like 99% sure when i DO tell my current employer that i'm leaving they are going to counter offer. i do NOT plan on accepting it.
now my other coworker who is also looking for a new job, but is a senior business analyst, also has (had) something lined up. his #1 job is with blizzard and he's still in the interview process, and he will take that one if he gets that. he had another fallback that he was going to take if he did not get the one at blizzard.
last friday he told our company that he was leaving shortly. monday, they came back to him telling him they will give him $30k more if he stays. now keep in mind, it's not like he was making chump change. he was already in 6 figures, so this is putting him up even higher. he decided to accept it, and definitely not take the fallback, but if he gets the job at blizzard he's going to leave still.
as far as his decision, they are also going to be paying for his PMP, and have told him that they want him to replace one of the incompetent managers, so he has places to move up.
additionally, this is kind of an odd situation company wise. in october of last year, the companies we worked for lost the contract. we came onboard as incumbants with the new company, and had nice salary increases. he was the only business analyst, and i am one of the 3 really key developers. so we are both very valuable to this company for them to have success. additionally, they have been doing an AWFUL job from management standpoint and basically need us to succeed because of our domain knowledge. they've told us that they are fucked if any of us key people leave (in those words too).
so i guess what i'm asking is, what are other people's thoughts on counter offers? as stated i do NOT plan on taking a counter offer, even if its $30k more than i'm currently making, because i simply can't stand the place anymore due to working with such incompetent people, and i am not learning ANYTHING new there. additionally there really is nowhere to move up here anymore, just the way the project is structured, for a software dev.
just the fact that my coworker got such a large counter offer (and he's really a key person) has just made me wonder more about the whole counter offer thing.
of course the recruiter who landed me this new job told me that the WORST thing you can possibly do because as soon as you accept it they will start looking for the replacement. and i have heard that before, but again, usually from recruiters and not people who have actually been through it.
and as far as counter offers go, can they be used to try and negotiate a higher salary with the NEW company? like if i WERE to get a counter offer of $30k, would it be a good/bad idea to go back to the one I already accepted and tell em about it to see if they will bump their salary up?
fwiw, i don't plan on doing that with them, but since i've never been in this position, i also don't know if that is something that is common to do or just totally stupid and unrealistic to try and pursue.
i'm currently working as a senior software engineer.
the offer is $10k more than i'm making now + a bonus (that is unknown at this time), and has much better benefits and will be much better career wise in the long run. i'm like 99% sure when i DO tell my current employer that i'm leaving they are going to counter offer. i do NOT plan on accepting it.
now my other coworker who is also looking for a new job, but is a senior business analyst, also has (had) something lined up. his #1 job is with blizzard and he's still in the interview process, and he will take that one if he gets that. he had another fallback that he was going to take if he did not get the one at blizzard.
last friday he told our company that he was leaving shortly. monday, they came back to him telling him they will give him $30k more if he stays. now keep in mind, it's not like he was making chump change. he was already in 6 figures, so this is putting him up even higher. he decided to accept it, and definitely not take the fallback, but if he gets the job at blizzard he's going to leave still.
as far as his decision, they are also going to be paying for his PMP, and have told him that they want him to replace one of the incompetent managers, so he has places to move up.
additionally, this is kind of an odd situation company wise. in october of last year, the companies we worked for lost the contract. we came onboard as incumbants with the new company, and had nice salary increases. he was the only business analyst, and i am one of the 3 really key developers. so we are both very valuable to this company for them to have success. additionally, they have been doing an AWFUL job from management standpoint and basically need us to succeed because of our domain knowledge. they've told us that they are fucked if any of us key people leave (in those words too).
so i guess what i'm asking is, what are other people's thoughts on counter offers? as stated i do NOT plan on taking a counter offer, even if its $30k more than i'm currently making, because i simply can't stand the place anymore due to working with such incompetent people, and i am not learning ANYTHING new there. additionally there really is nowhere to move up here anymore, just the way the project is structured, for a software dev.
just the fact that my coworker got such a large counter offer (and he's really a key person) has just made me wonder more about the whole counter offer thing.
of course the recruiter who landed me this new job told me that the WORST thing you can possibly do because as soon as you accept it they will start looking for the replacement. and i have heard that before, but again, usually from recruiters and not people who have actually been through it.
and as far as counter offers go, can they be used to try and negotiate a higher salary with the NEW company? like if i WERE to get a counter offer of $30k, would it be a good/bad idea to go back to the one I already accepted and tell em about it to see if they will bump their salary up?
fwiw, i don't plan on doing that with them, but since i've never been in this position, i also don't know if that is something that is common to do or just totally stupid and unrealistic to try and pursue.
