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Lifer
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Originally posted by: josh0099
Well then depends on what you are getting exactly and what your undergrad is in....Talking from a Engineer prospective, a masters degree will only help you advance faster/start out a bit higher. So I wouldn't do it till you get to a place that would pay for it. A MBA is good if you want to go to management, but then again you need to get some other experience till you can get into management. So that goes back to the wait till you can find someone to pay for it.

negative. a masters/phd will net you an extra 10%-20% with experience in the engineering field.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Riceninja
so you can live with regret knowing how close you came to a phd.

lawlz.

sorry, but a phd is not worth wasting another 5 years of my 20's living as a broke-ass student, when i can be making 4-5x as much as a BS or BS/MS (i am doing a combined BS/MS program)

Really-really not worth it for engineering.

Arnt you like 18? How do you know anything about life, you dolt?
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Well if you are going into accounting as an example, you can't even sit for your CPA in most places with a BS.

Almost all the higher-ups at the accounting firm I worked for had MBAs. My unit was insolvency, so maybe that's the cream of the crop or "dream" accounting job.
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Riceninja
so you can live with regret knowing how close you came to a phd.

lawlz.

sorry, but a phd is not worth wasting another 5 years of my 20's living as a broke-ass student, when i can be making 4-5x as much as a BS or BS/MS (i am doing a combined BS/MS program)

Masters to Phd doesn't have to take 5 years...0.o

Depends on the field, the adviser, and the university. Five years was typical for where I went. Some students took as long as ten years (adviser decided the student's project was no longer "interesting" in year seven. Three was the minimum.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: RKS
Having a Master sucks. You have to do what they say. They don't pay you any money. They chop off your big toe when you try to free your self. They try to give you a weird name and if you don't like it; well, you get the living shit beat out of you.

Get back to picking cotton, Kunta Kinte!!!!

Toby be good n***er! No cut off other muthafuckin foot!
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Riceninja
so you can live with regret knowing how close you came to a phd.

lawlz.

sorry, but a phd is not worth wasting another 5 years of my 20's living as a broke-ass student, when i can be making 4-5x as much as a BS or BS/MS (i am doing a combined BS/MS program)

Masters to Phd doesn't have to take 5 years...0.o

seems like most people spend 3-5 years for engineering. either way, i'm tired of living like a student, nor do i want to become any more of a professional student than i already am. i want to *do* things :p
 

spacejamz

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Originally posted by: josh0099
Wait to do the Masters program till you find out your company's benefits....They may pay for all/most of it.

most companies will only reimburse $5250 per year as that is the maximum amount they can provide before it has to be reported as income to the IRS.

my MBA program will cost about $25K...If I want work to pay for it all, it will take about 5 years. If I want to finish sooner, I will have to pay some of this out of my own pocket...
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Riceninja
so you can live with regret knowing how close you came to a phd.

lawlz.

sorry, but a phd is not worth wasting another 5 years of my 20's living as a broke-ass student, when i can be making 4-5x as much as a BS or BS/MS (i am doing a combined BS/MS program)

Masters to Phd doesn't have to take 5 years...0.o

seems like most people spend 3-5 years for engineering. either way, i'm tired of living like a student, nor do i want to become any more of a professional student than i already am. i want to *do* things :p

Not familiar with that. I know some engineering programs in general take a long time. :)

I've always thought that if I go past Masters to Phd I want to get it done with VERY fast. Mainly because the accounting program has very few Phd granting universities and I wouldn't drive an hour and a half a day or live in Richmond more than a few years.
 

Zugzwang152

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Will improve your advancement potential in management or in teaching. Benefits for non-management advancement is highly dependent on what field you're in.

Just like any other degree, from high school diploma on up, people get them to advance their career and earnings potential, not to actually learn anything.
 

Chronoshock

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It depends a great deal on the major, the industry you're working in, and to some extent the university you get it from. Can you be successful and advance without one? Obviously you can. Are there situations where it will help you advance faster or to higher positions in management? Yes.
That being said, do not do a masters program for the sake of having a degree, you'll hate it. If you are genuinely interested in the subject matter and enjoy the classes and possible research, and you have the financial means of supporting it, then go for it.
 
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Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Will improve your advancement potential in management or in teaching. Benefits for non-management advancement is highly dependent on what field you're in.

Just like any other degree, from high school diploma on up, people get them to advance their career and earnings potential, not to actually learn anything.

No. Most people probably do, but not all. Many (like me) still believe strongly that school is entirely about education, and that education is entirely about self-fulfillment and world betterment.
 

AreaCode707

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"If you're in professional accounting there can be a substantial difference in starting salary and also in general experience and awareness of tax issues. With other fields, it really depends. Will the extra education add something in terms of marketability? That's the question." - Orsorum
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Will improve your advancement potential in management or in teaching. Benefits for non-management advancement is highly dependent on what field you're in.

Just like any other degree, from high school diploma on up, people get them to advance their career and earnings potential, not to actually learn anything.

No. Most people probably do, but not all. Many (like me) still believe strongly that school is entirely about education, and that education is entirely about self-fulfillment and world betterment.

But if you can do both it is like a threesome that results in the child that is future success.
 
May 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Will improve your advancement potential in management or in teaching. Benefits for non-management advancement is highly dependent on what field you're in.

Just like any other degree, from high school diploma on up, people get them to advance their career and earnings potential, not to actually learn anything.

No. Most people probably do, but not all. Many (like me) still believe strongly that school is entirely about education, and that education is entirely about self-fulfillment and world betterment.

But if you can do both it is like a threesome that results in the child that is future success.

It's a happy addition if you can make any kind of living off it, but it wouldn't change any part of my schooling. Jobs/money are totally meaningless to me.
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Will improve your advancement potential in management or in teaching. Benefits for non-management advancement is highly dependent on what field you're in.

Just like any other degree, from high school diploma on up, people get them to advance their career and earnings potential, not to actually learn anything.

No. Most people probably do, but not all. Many (like me) still believe strongly that school is entirely about education, and that education is entirely about self-fulfillment and world betterment.

But if you can do both it is like a threesome that results in the child that is future success.

It's a happy addition if you can make any kind of living off it, but it wouldn't change any part of my schooling. Jobs/money are totally meaningless to me.

No they aren't. Maybe it's not the most important factor but let us be honest with each other...

You wouldn't work in a McDonalds for life just so you could gain knowledge that you would never be able to use/explore/grow (travel, create, network) because of your poor financial standing.
 

JJChicken

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Riceninja
so you can live with regret knowing how close you came to a phd.

lawlz.

sorry, but a phd is not worth wasting another 5 years of my 20's living as a broke-ass student, when i can be making 4-5x as much as a BS or BS/MS (i am doing a combined BS/MS program)

Really-really not worth it for engineering.

Arnt you like 18? How do you know anything about life, you dolt?

Aren't you 21? How do you know anything about life, you dolt?
 

JJChicken

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Originally posted by: Imp
Originally posted by: TruePaige
Well if you are going into accounting as an example, you can't even sit for your CPA in most places with a BS.

Almost all the higher-ups at the accounting firm I worked for had MBAs. My unit was insolvency, so maybe that's the cream of the crop or "dream" accounting job.

I thought CA/CPAs were all thats required in accounting?
 

JJChicken

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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Riceninja
so you can live with regret knowing how close you came to a phd.

lawlz.

sorry, but a phd is not worth wasting another 5 years of my 20's living as a broke-ass student, when i can be making 4-5x as much as a BS or BS/MS (i am doing a combined BS/MS program)

Masters to Phd doesn't have to take 5 years...0.o

seems like most people spend 3-5 years for engineering. either way, i'm tired of living like a student, nor do i want to become any more of a professional student than i already am. i want to *do* things :p

Not familiar with that. I know some engineering programs in general take a long time. :)

I've always thought that if I go past Masters to Phd I want to get it done with VERY fast. Mainly because the accounting program has very few Phd granting universities and I wouldn't drive an hour and a half a day or live in Richmond more than a few years.

Why would you want to do a PhD in accounting? Unless you want to "research" I can't see the point. Over here, CA/CPA is all thats required.
 

nick1985

Lifer
Dec 29, 2002
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Originally posted by: Barack Obama
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: TridenTBoy3555
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Riceninja
so you can live with regret knowing how close you came to a phd.

lawlz.

sorry, but a phd is not worth wasting another 5 years of my 20's living as a broke-ass student, when i can be making 4-5x as much as a BS or BS/MS (i am doing a combined BS/MS program)

Really-really not worth it for engineering.

Arnt you like 18? How do you know anything about life, you dolt?

Aren't you 21? How do you know anything about life, you dolt?

Im actually 24 and graduated from college with two degrees, which puts me in a much better position to post in a thread like this when compared to a 80 pound crater-faced teenage wiener.