What are the bare minimum services we want our govt to provide?
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Tristicus
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BeauJangles
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infrastructure (roads, water, sanitation, etc)
defense
fire/police
legal system
schools
support for scientific research
some sort of safety net (not like today's)
some protection / regulatory agencies (less toothless FDA, OSHA, etc)
protection of national resources
disaster relief
currency / economic guidance and support
defense
fire/police
legal system
schools
support for scientific research
some sort of safety net (not like today's)
some protection / regulatory agencies (less toothless FDA, OSHA, etc)
protection of national resources
disaster relief
currency / economic guidance and support
werepossum
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Sounds about right, with the understanding that in some areas infrastructure like power and/or water is already being efficiently provided by private entities.
Government:
Infrastructure(roads, sanitation, power)
National Defense
Police/Fire Department
Legal System
Currency System
Leave to the Private sector:
Schools
General Health Care (Provide own Insurance)
Retirement Plans
Disaster relief
Scientific research
Phone, Cable, Internet
Banks
Anything else the government has its fingers in that should be left to private sector.
Infrastructure(roads, sanitation, power)
National Defense
Police/Fire Department
Legal System
Currency System
Leave to the Private sector:
Schools
General Health Care (Provide own Insurance)
Retirement Plans
Disaster relief
Scientific research
Phone, Cable, Internet
Banks
Anything else the government has its fingers in that should be left to private sector.
agreed with this except disaster relief, unless you mean international disaster relief.
if it's within our borders, then our govt should provide aid.
zsdersw
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werepossum
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I agree except for the typical young American, who wants the government to provide all basic necessities - including broadband Internet access.From each according to his means, to each according to his needs" is pretty much the high school/college/young adult mantra any more. Of course, they think JFK said it . . .
I think the general idea is that the government would provide these services if they were not already provided, not that government would force itself as the sole provider of these services.
Terrible idea. Everyone has a right to vote, so more uneducated people means more terrible policies and terrible politicians. The last thing anyone needs is more people who don't believe in bacteria, people who don't believe in viruses, people who don't believe in evolution and therefore think everything should be treated with antibiotics, people who don't understand groundwater contamination and poison the entire town. The list goes on. Uneducated people are incredibly dangerous, especially when they can vote.
ahenkel
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I would suppose so if the slave agreed to the contract. I guess it would be more like indentured servitude then. Just as a side note I completely disagree with the premise of privatizing everything.
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Cuzz obviously his uncle's point was that all private individual rights should be forfeit right? Maybe not but keep grasping.
The government should secure my rights to life, liberty, and property. After all, "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
Securing these rights within our borders requires a legal system to determine whether any rights have been infringed and law enforcement to carry out the will of the legal system. Internationally, this requires the ability to protect the assets of citizens within our borders and overseas to overcome piracy, foreign seizure of assets, and attack/invasion (though it may be argued that the first two are optional, as the nation may only be required to protect its citizens' rights within its borders).
In this model, explicit regulations are unnecessary because an individual or entity are liable if someone is harmed or suffers the loss of property due to their actions, as judged by the legal system. People and companies are free to be as greedy as they want, as long as they do not infringe on any citizen's right to life, liberty, or property. Loopholes in regulations no longer exist because there exists an objective standard by which actions are judged (i.e. infringement of rights, rather than arbitrary legislation).
Unfortunately, this is impossible in the US at this point, since the federal government employs millions of people directly (4 million in the executive branch alone), and millions more as contractors. The 180,000+ current employees which exist outside of the three branches of government would be left out in the cold, no longer being paid tax dollars to spend tax dollars on goals unrelated to why the government nominally exists.
Sounds better than the status quo, anyway.
Securing these rights within our borders requires a legal system to determine whether any rights have been infringed and law enforcement to carry out the will of the legal system. Internationally, this requires the ability to protect the assets of citizens within our borders and overseas to overcome piracy, foreign seizure of assets, and attack/invasion (though it may be argued that the first two are optional, as the nation may only be required to protect its citizens' rights within its borders).
In this model, explicit regulations are unnecessary because an individual or entity are liable if someone is harmed or suffers the loss of property due to their actions, as judged by the legal system. People and companies are free to be as greedy as they want, as long as they do not infringe on any citizen's right to life, liberty, or property. Loopholes in regulations no longer exist because there exists an objective standard by which actions are judged (i.e. infringement of rights, rather than arbitrary legislation).
Unfortunately, this is impossible in the US at this point, since the federal government employs millions of people directly (4 million in the executive branch alone), and millions more as contractors. The 180,000+ current employees which exist outside of the three branches of government would be left out in the cold, no longer being paid tax dollars to spend tax dollars on goals unrelated to why the government nominally exists.
Sounds better than the status quo, anyway.
CPA
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Not sure why, but the government likes naming things. Flower day. Cancer month. Black history month. White slaver own month. Breast cancer week. Penis 5 minutes. They actually waste time voting on that shit.
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