What are some things you are against?

[DWW]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: DWW
hrm for those people who are against government seatbelt laws ever think it isn't just for your safety? You, without a seatbelt, are a projectile through the front window.

In a collision you have a high chance of ending up in someone else's windshield or path of driving (causing them in turn to swerve and get in a collision).

I'm sure the same people who are against seatbelt laws would have a problem if a 150-200 pound bag of cement mix was loosely strapped to every vehicle on the road beside you. In the event of a collision it would fly off with lots of force.

That is how I always saw it at least. Also, there is more chance of recovering an out of control vehicle endangering others, if you are still -inside- of it.

Your analogy does not hold water. If I have a 150lb bag of cement in the back of my truck, there is no law in my state, that I am aware of, that states I have to tie it down.

Well I don't know squat about your state because not everyone here is a yankee. Where I come from their are vehicle regulations and you must tie down dangerous things on your vehicle. I'm surprised there wouldn't be anything similar to that where you live.

Obviously a bag of cement in the bed of a truck isn't going to go much anywhere during a collision because it will slam up against the walls. Put it on the front hood instead (near where the occupants would be) an d that is a more likely effect.

 

[KarenMarie]

DWW:
Well I don't know squat about your state because not everyone here is a yankee. Where I come from their are vehicle regulations and you must tie down dangerous things on your vehicle. I'm surprised there wouldn't be anything similar to that where you live.

Obviously a bag of cement in the bed of a truck isn't going to go much anywhere during a collision because it will slam up against the walls. Put it on the front hood instead (near where the occupants would be) an d that is a more likely effect.

That is not the point.
The point is that I am not a huge fan of the government trying to regulate, instill penalties for, and stick it's nose into every part of people's lives. I am against the government passing laws, to make money, and trying to convince the public that they are only looking out for our best interests.

again...
Are seatbelts a smart thing?... sure.
Do I think we should be forced by punishments of penalties to wear them?... no.

 

[DWW]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

DWW:
Well I don't know squat about your state because not everyone here is a yankee. Where I come from their are vehicle regulations and you must tie down dangerous things on your vehicle. I'm surprised there wouldn't be anything similar to that where you live.

Obviously a bag of cement in the bed of a truck isn't going to go much anywhere during a collision because it will slam up against the walls. Put it on the front hood instead (near where the occupants would be) an d that is a more likely effect.

That is not the point.
The point is that I am not a huge fan of the government trying to regulate, instill penalties for, and stick it's nose into every part of people's lives. I am against the government passing laws, to make money, and trying to convince the public that they are only looking out for our best interests.

again...
Are seatbelts a smart thing?... sure.
Do I think we should be forced by punishments of penalties to wear them?... no.

That is not the point.
The point is that seatbelts are not only for your safety but for that of others. If you interpret that as trying to regulate you, "get up in yo business" and solely to make money--you are incorrect.

I agree that some laws are poorly written. However, seatbelt laws are definitely not a bad idea (not for your own well being but that of others which the government has a duty to protect).

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: DWW

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: DWW
hrm for those people who are against government seatbelt laws ever think it isn't just for your safety? You, without a seatbelt, are a projectile through the front window.

In a collision you have a high chance of ending up in someone else's windshield or path of driving (causing them in turn to swerve and get in a collision).

I'm sure the same people who are against seatbelt laws would have a problem if a 150-200 pound bag of cement mix was loosely strapped to every vehicle on the road beside you. In the event of a collision it would fly off with lots of force.

That is how I always saw it at least. Also, there is more chance of recovering an out of control vehicle endangering others, if you are still -inside- of it.

Your analogy does not hold water. If I have a 150lb bag of cement in the back of my truck, there is no law in my state, that I am aware of, that states I have to tie it down.

Well I don't know squat about your state because not everyone here is a yankee. Where I come from their are vehicle regulations and you must tie down dangerous things on your vehicle. I'm surprised there wouldn't be anything similar to that where you live.

Obviously a bag of cement in the bed of a truck isn't going to go much anywhere during a collision because it will slam up against the walls. Put it on the front hood instead (near where the occupants would be) an d that is a more likely effect.

Jesus criminy, can anyone, anyone here have a debate without resorting to namecalling? If nothing else, that is just a sign that you have no argument.

In the trunk or in my front seat it does NOT have to be tied down.

Admit it, the only reason why the Feds pushed the states to pass this law was based on the arguments and testimony of a few people who believe it is the government's duty to protect everyone from everything. You can add the airbag regulations to the same discussion.

Now, can you debate this point without referencing my origins (btw, born a yankee, but now a Texan)?

 

[compudog]

1) Smoking
2) Hippocrites
3) Child abusers
4) People that cannot behave themselves (murder/rape/theft etc)

 

[Amused]

Damn nanny-staters. I wonder how they get anything done in their own lives when they spend so much time and energy worrying about everyone else's life?

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: Mitchydkid
2. People who think they are too smart to have a creator

:roll: Not going to start a back & forth on this, but I have to say I find your comment disgusting.

Originally posted by: CPA
Jesus criminy, can anyone, anyone here have a debate without resorting to namecalling?

This really gets me too, it's one of my biggest peeves. I think it's a mark of low age and/or intelligence. You can have a good argument with points to back it up (and you do, in this case, and I agree wholeheartedly with you), and when someone can't refute it they come back with "u asshat" or somesuch.. it's utterly disgusting.

 

[DWW]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: Mitchydkid
2. People who think they are too smart to have a creator

:roll: Not going to start a back & forth on this, but I have to say I find your comment disgusting.

Originally posted by: CPA
Jesus criminy, can anyone, anyone here have a debate without resorting to namecalling?

This really gets me too, it's one of my biggest peeves. I think it's a mark of low age and/or intelligence. You can have a good argument with points to back it up (and you do, in this case, and I agree wholeheartedly with you), and when someone can't refute it they come back with "u asshat" or somesuch.. it's utterly disgusting.

Wow didn't know yankee was offensive . It doesn't have any negative connotation here. It's just slang for a citizen of the United States of America.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: DWW

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: Mitchydkid
2. People who think they are too smart to have a creator

:roll: Not going to start a back & forth on this, but I have to say I find your comment disgusting.

Originally posted by: CPA
Jesus criminy, can anyone, anyone here have a debate without resorting to namecalling?

This really gets me too, it's one of my biggest peeves. I think it's a mark of low age and/or intelligence. You can have a good argument with points to back it up (and you do, in this case, and I agree wholeheartedly with you), and when someone can't refute it they come back with "u asshat" or somesuch.. it's utterly disgusting.

Wow didn't know yankee was offensive . It doesn't have any negative connotation here. It's just slang for a citizen of the United States of America.

Wasn't directed at you, it's just a general sentiment I share. He brought it up and i responded without meaning anyone in particular - sorry that it came off as being directed at you, it honestly wasn't.

 

[Isshinryu]

Originally posted by: DWW
Wow didn't know yankee was offensive . It doesn't have any negative connotation here. It's just slang for a citizen of the United States of America.

Where are you from? In North Ireland we made fun of yanks by calling them yanks.

 

[judasmachine]

In no particular order....

1. Meat
2. War
3. Religion
4. Mass Stupidity
5. Fascism
6. Class War
7. Racism

 

[Fritzo]

I don't know why, but I'm against people that use the view screen on their digital camera to line up the picture rather than the eyepiece.

I'm also against rap music, and any type of candy/food that is blue (except blueberries- but they're actually kind of purple-ish).

Finally, I'm against gold trim on a vehicle. TACK-KAY!!!!

 

[jyates]

1. Rude people who care only about themselves.
2. Tree huggers who worry more about the enviornment or animals than the person living next door.
3. People who feel the need to put down those who may profess a faith in God/Religion.
4. People who want to complain about what life has dealt them but won't lift a finger to change their situation.

 

Originally posted by: DWW

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

DWW:
Well I don't know squat about your state because not everyone here is a yankee. Where I come from their are vehicle regulations and you must tie down dangerous things on your vehicle. I'm surprised there wouldn't be anything similar to that where you live.

Obviously a bag of cement in the bed of a truck isn't going to go much anywhere during a collision because it will slam up against the walls. Put it on the front hood instead (near where the occupants would be) an d that is a more likely effect.

That is not the point.
The point is that I am not a huge fan of the government trying to regulate, instill penalties for, and stick it's nose into every part of people's lives. I am against the government passing laws, to make money, and trying to convince the public that they are only looking out for our best interests.

again...
Are seatbelts a smart thing?... sure.
Do I think we should be forced by punishments of penalties to wear them?... no.

That is not the point.
The point is that seatbelts are not only for your safety but for that of others. If you interpret that as trying to regulate you, "get up in yo business" and solely to make money--you are incorrect.

I agree that some laws are poorly written. However, seatbelt laws are definitely not a bad idea (not for your own well being but that of others which the government has a duty to protect).

What others? You hurt no one but yourself when you choose to not wear a seatbelt. I don't want nanny government all over the place trying to protect the morons in the country...darwin needs to rise from the dead and smack the sh!t outta all these nanny government supporters.

 

[islandtechengineers]

mainly myself, everyone, everything and all! but all that hate also makes me love; so at the same time i love myself, everyone, everything and all!

 

[wkabel23]

1. Conservative politcal views
2. People that dislike paying taxes.
3. The ban of DDT. Like someone mentioned earlier: DDT could save many lives. However, environmentalists are clinging to Rachel Carson's BS book as proof against DDT.
4. Religous fundamentalists.
5. Ignorance.
6. The multitude of denominations we have.
7. Flat tax
8. Drilling for oil in Alaska
9. The political process in Washington. IMO, for politicians too energy is focused on re-election as opposed to truly constructive work.
10. Pork barrel legislation
11. Low pay for teachers
12. 95% of the new "music" that comes out.
13. Ill throw in a few sports team too: Mets, Philies, Yankees, Lakers, Red Wings, Cotlts, Patriots, Ravens, Rams

 

[tennesota]

1) Taxes
2) Welfare
3) Section 8
4) Paying more taxes to subsidize #2 and #3 :|

 

Originally posted by: lucrioual
1. Smoking
2. Drinking
3. Drugs
4. Racism

haha

So what you're saying is that you're one of the most boring people on the planet.

 

[electricJ]

1) Flakey young girls (I'm 23, if that says anything about my age range)
2) Hypocrisy
3) Racism

 

[steelio]

I am against my chair @ the moment. I plan on putting my wife against the table here shortly. :beer:

 

[Konigin]

I'm for everything that liberals are against.

 

[tranceport]

Mean People.

 

[us3rnotfound]

i am against people who junk up your thread.

 

[steelio]

Originally posted by: tranceport
Mean People.

So are you against the average person? Or people that are not nice?

Get it mean -- average -- Statistics term you know. I say you know