It's up to the OP to track the calories. Never in my post did I say "only eat pasta" or "only eat oats".
I never said for him to eat a plate of pasta. Da fuq? He was asking for healthy suggestions... I suggested some simple oats with butters or fruits. The macros of the pancakes I posted are as follows: 2.7g fat, 36g carb, 39g protein. I fail to see how this is an unhealthy choice. Yeah, if you add butters, sugars, or fruit it'll change the macros. Again, it's up to him to track what he's eating.
I stated in my post to eat pasta with some veggies and chicken. Again you must not have been reading my post. I believe I posted "My favorite is with alfredo and whole wheat noodles, and of course a side of veggies." I'm sure I'll get berated for suggesting alfredo. Oh noes fats!1!!!!
I never said to add a cup of sugar or chocolate chips. When I do add these, its a teaspoon, if chocolate chips, maybe half a serving. Again it's up to the OP to track his calories.
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Thanks, I guess I should say the same about you now that we seem to be at the point of attacking each other. I'm sorry that you feel that way about me.
That statement was meant to be tongue in cheek...come on dude. Welcome to the internet. If I was the knee-jerk type I wouldn't be where I am at today.
Sorry for the posts yesterday -- wasn't in a good mood. I do mean that sincerely. I'm sorry that you took my subsequent posts after the first post seriously, as it wasn't meant to be.
The amount of information regarding nutrition and fitness on the internet is aggravating. Each online community has their own set of experts and recommendations to eating right. I am thrown when you list in your sticky that one could eat whole wheat pasta, or oats, but then come into this thread and say "they're not exactly ideal". Then you should revise your sticky and maybe point that out. GI doesn't matter unless you have a medical condition.
I have done an unbelievable amount of research online and with PTs to try to make the best out of everyone's advice. What I posted are healthy options. Period. It's up to the OP to track what he is eating.
I understand that you didn't say that, but when you talk to people, a lot of the times all they hear is "oh, pasta's healthy?" It's great as a side, especially if you're active, but as a whole meal it's not ideal. You may not have meant it like that, but that's how I believe it could be interpreted.
And you're right, I skimped on the details with the pancakes. Those are actually pretty good, especially if you just eat them with fruit as opposed to syrup. I apologize for that. I saw pancakes and attacked.
You suggested pasta and veggies, but like I said, I try to support an even macro distribution with most meals. That means chicken/steak/fish/shrimp whatever should also be a main staple. That's just something I wanted to point out.
Also, as I said before, I think what you said could be misconstrued. A lot of people don't use common sense when it comes to their diet. They see "chocolate chips" related to healthy and they add a handful. I assumed this, as that's what the portion size of many people who have poor diets.
I was frustrated with the way things were presented. Your intentions were clearly not to demonstrate eating a whole plate of pasta, but that's what I took it as. That was a miscommunication and that's my bad as well.
I support oats full-fledged. I thought you were dowsing them with syrup and chocolate chips. Like I said, I didn't read thoroughly enough there. The only difficulty with pasta is, like everything else, too much of anything is bad. It's calorie dense, which can lead to a caloric excess, which can lead to fat gain. I support it in small doses, which it seems like you're talking about moreso. I'm trying not to promote my personal views (I don't eat pasta - rarely), but I'm trying to present what the research shows. They're healthy options, in moderation, and we can both agree upon that. I apologize that we got off track a bit. We seem like we're making similar points but with different terminology.
