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What are Raptor Hard Drive like

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Smithyoffline

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Hi,

I would just like to know what performance difference will I see if I was to get a raptor drive.

I do a fair bit of video editing and gaming, what would the performance in these be like.
= how fast a game like battlefield 1942 or something loads
= how fast does large files transfer in video editing

Also if i was to get one how should i set it up to get the performance out of the raptor. Should I set the raptor up to install windows xp? and have my 120Gig hard drive having all the movies on it? Should I use raid? What would the best way to set it up?

Kind Regards...
 
should I upgrade to 2 gig of ram or get a raptor 36gig

what would be the best performer and why?

Also I forgot to ask, since I have a 7200rpm 8mb cache hard drive will it slow down the raptor? How should the 2 drives be setup

will the setup with 1x raptor and 1x 120gig hard drive 7200rpm 8mb cache beat a raid0 of 2x 120 gig hard drives 7200rpm 8mb cache?

How much faster will games load?
 
according to the link in your sig your motherboard has the intel 865pe which has 'dual independent' serial ata ports (which dont work on the pci bus, like some older motherboards) giving them considerable more speed then regular ide hard drives. some reviews to check out

im not gonna go into if 2 gigs of ram or a raptor would be better for you because thats up to you. ram prices are going to fall but so are the prices of raptors; as serial ata gets older and the market is flooded.
 
They are faster, but how much faster is perceived differently by each person. I like the extra boost from my Raptors but in the end it wasn't really worth the extra money.
 
My single raptor benches like 39MB/sec. I don't think that's worth it. I only have a single one because I was short some $$ and had to jack one from my moms comp that I built for her(raid1). 🙂
 
I have dual raptors running in Raid 0 on my gaming rig, and it flies. Even with only one Raptor, the O/S and apps that you install on it will load faster, but you'd have to be a geek to appreciate the beauty in it, especially for the cost. 😉 Once your apps are loaded your at the mercy of the ram though, but it is sweet to see programs load quickly.

I would probably go with the Raptor, for you already have a gig of ram, and thats enough for games at this time. I'm not sure if 2 gigs would help you or not with video editing, some one with more experience with that will have to let you know.
 
i know L computers has some type of solid state memory but that little card is insane. i would just save up for that thing =)
 
Smithyoffline, if you're this concerned about the performance of a Raptor vs. a 7200 RPM 8 MB cache drive, don't buy a Raptor. People buy Raptors expecting to see huge performance increase, and it just isn't there because under normal circumstances hard drives aren't used most of the time. We no longer require virtual memory, just about everybody can afford to buy enough RAM so that VM only needs to exist because Windows is so damn anal about having a swap file.

I can tell you this though...
When I installed Windows XP from the CD it took less than 12 minutes.
I believe the last time I timed it, from the time the SATA controller BIOS was initialized until the time I was at the desktop with everything fully loaded and ready to go was about 20 seconds, but it's been a while since I timed it.
I RARELY wait more than 2-3 seconds for a program to open.
Levels in Far Cry load in... probably 20 seconds or less, although I don't think that has a lot to do with the hard drive since the light doesn't blink a whole lot during the loading process.
I defrag about every other week, sometimes less frequently, and it rarely takes more than 10 minutes.

I have the first generation Raptor... so if you opted for the 74 GB one it would be a little bit faster than mine.
 
For extensive gaming and especially video editing I would say go with the 2 gig sof ram. Loading games doesn't take any extreme amount of time these days even on 'older' 7200 RPM ide drives. For video editing the Raptor would really only have a noticeable benefit if you could afford a lot of them and store all of your video on them, maybe a RAID 5 array. In my experience the issue with video editing being disk intensive *does* get much less annoying with more RAM in the system. Loading Premiere, or your editor of choice, isn't what slows you down it's the constant pushing/pulling files from the hard drive and getting them into and out of limited RAM space.
 
If you?re a BF1942 player I found my 36gig raptor shaved about 10-15 seconds off the load time of maps which was very nice. Also windows/programs install noticeably faster. About video editing though I don?t really know which would be better 2 gig of RAM or a raptor.
 
ok just like to clear something up:

How fast does it take to install windows xp pro on a 36gig raptor drive compared to 7200rpm drive? (using a pentium based system, like a 2.8CGHZ)

Which one is faster for performance in loading? Either the 2x 120 gig 7200rpm in raid0 OR 1x raptor and 1x 7200rpm?
 
well kind of the same sort of question. Im trying to drain all the information so spreading alot of forums around will make it twice as quick. Just looking for the best upgrade to do
 
10k drive are quite fast..

I'm using 4 73gb scsi raid 0 + 1 and copying movies are a lot faster than my wd 7200 ides.. even single 10k scsi w/o using raid 0. Raptors comes very close and sometimes faster than some scsi.. so performance should be on par
 
Ok smithy. I see your having alot if thinking about how much ram to use, HDD to use, HDD loading time etc... I'll give you a short take and leave it at that. I know that you will do video editing, and some gaming. I would stay away from raid and use 1G of ram for now, if you think you need more add more ram. It will work just fine. I wouldn't overlclock a machine that you use for any kind of work that might have valuable data on it, I would just add a better processor. I also see your asking how to get XP to install faster. Learn about how to 'ghost' or image your hard drive. To do this, you would format fresh and install XP, then load chipset divers frech drivers for all of your deviced and programs, get XP updates ...etc.. then you "Image" the hard drive, then next time you are worried about how long XP takes to install - you have an image - it takes 5 minutes at best. Norton has Ghost, and I have used Acronis and like it too. It's great to use. Also keep all of your data that you consider "crucial" on a HDD seperate form your primary operating system, and keep the files, images backed up with backup software and or CD's. You could run a SATA raptor as your primary HDD, and keep a nice 200 Gig Maxtor as your storage driver (example). Good luck!
 
Originally posted by: Carbonadium4
10k drive are quite fast..

I'm using 4 73gb scsi raid 0 + 1 and copying movies are a lot faster than my wd 7200 ides.. even single 10k scsi w/o using raid 0. Raptors comes very close and sometimes faster than some scsi.. so performance should be on par
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There's some good insight for you Smith from someone that encodes and copies-
 
I've been contemplating the same thing. I was considering going with three raptors. One for my system drive and the other two in a RAID 0 for video editing. It sounds like I might be just as happy going with a raid 0 of 7200RPM drives. Maybe I'll put the saved cash into a 6800U or X800.
 
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