What are homosexual values?

[kogase]

Originally posted by: ChiPCGuy
So, we are OK by you if you don't have to see us, talk to us, know us, etc.? I have no intention of keeping my orientation to myself. You don't. You would have a picture of your wife/girlfriend on your desk at work. You would parade around your children if you should have any; the result of your heterosexual relationship. You would show them off, talk about them, and thereby showoff your orientation.

Are you willing to keep that to yourself? If not, then don't ask me to keep mine to myself.

His wife/girlfriend is his significant other, it has nothing to do with his sexual orientation. If he was gay he'd have a picture of his boyfriend, so you have no point there. Gays can parade around their children as well, that was a pretty stupid point. Stay out of my face and I'll stay out of yours, nobody is flaunting their heterosexuality, you just see it that way out of convenience for your cause.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
I don't participate in "celetbrate hetrosexuality" parades. There is no "heterosexual day" here in Davis but there is a Gay and Lesbian day. It's as if gays want to be excessively flamboyant about their lifestyle like they have something to prove. Heterosexuals carrying their kids around is a product of nature and is natural. Gays too can adopt kids and flaunt them around and they do.

Gay Pride is a natural and healthy response to societal homophobia. Frankly, it can be quite difficult to not feel worthless when you are gay, thanks to the contemptuous attitudes that many heterosexual people hold & express towards gay people and the constant societal message that homosexuals and their relationships are evil/ immoral/ inferior/ sick. Gay and Lesbian Pride Parades are are a conscious effort to oppose the insidious effect that homophobia has on the self-esteem of gay people. If you are so mean spirited that you begrude gay people their once-per year Pride Parade then you are a truly pathetic individual. There is probably no need for a "Heterosexual Day" because every day is heterosexual day but if you truly feel deprived then you should get off your behind and organize one.

 

[ChiPCGuy]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: ChiPCGuy
So, we are OK by you if you don't have to see us, talk to us, know us, etc.? I have no intention of keeping my orientation to myself. You don't. You would have a picture of your wife/girlfriend on your desk at work. You would parade around your children if you should have any; the result of your heterosexual relationship. You would show them off, talk about them, and thereby showoff your orientation.

Are you willing to keep that to yourself? If not, then don't ask me to keep mine to myself.

His wife/girlfriend is his significant other, it has nothing to do with his sexual orientation. If he was gay he'd have a picture of his boyfriend, so you have no point there. Gays can parade around their children as well, that was a pretty stupid point. Stay out of my face and I'll stay out of yours, nobody is flaunting their heterosexuality, you just see it that way out of convenience for your cause.

You DO flaunt your heterosexuality ALL OF THE TIME. You just do not realize it.

It is so natural (for you) to do, that you don't even realize you are doing it.

For example:

1. Pointing out, in public with your friends, that girl is pretty/cute/hot.
2. Public displays of affection with your wife/girlfriend. This could be kissing and/or holding hands.

I guess it all depends on what someone considers "flaunting". I have come across a number of people who just knowing I am gay consider that "flaunting". I have come across some slightly more tolerant people who would only consider me "flaunting" if I was talking about a boyfriend (not in sexual way..just in a normal everyday way like you would your wife/girlfriend).

So, I guess "flaunting" is in the eye of the beholder.

I think you might have missed how low 5150Joker's threshold is for the definition of "flaunting."

There is no need, that I can see, for a "heterosexual day" because you are not a minority seeking equal rights with other human beings.

Pride is NOT about flaunting our sexuality. It is about encouraging and emboldening other gay people who are afraid and closeted to come out of the closet and take stand.

That is what Pride is for. That is why many bigots are so incredibly hateful towards Pride--it scares them and it should.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: ChiPCGuy
Pride is NOT about flaunting our sexuality. It is about encouraging and emboldening other gay people who are afraid and closeted to come out of the closet and take stand.

That's cool, and that's the line you should stick with, because all your other arguments are nonsensical. Everything you mentioned is about flaunting your sexuality, not your orientation. A guy pointing out a cute girl is flaunting his sexuality, not his orientation, that's what you fail to understand.