what am I not getting about hdtv resolutions?

[Ronin]

Originally posted by: zixxer

Originally posted by: Ronin
Westinghouse 37"/42".

out of my price range

You said under 2k, right? The 37 is 1400, and the 42 is 1700. Might want to clarify your range.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: Ronin

Originally posted by: zixxer

Originally posted by: Ronin
Westinghouse 37"/42".

out of my price range

You said under 2k, right? The 37 is 1400, and the 42 is 1700. Might want to clarify your range.

I'm seeing $2500.


It must be bought at best buy, and no price matching. (long story, but basically they've had my laptop in their service center for 7 of the past 8 months and are letting me use the money from it towards a tv)

 

[91TTZ]

That is NOT a HDTV. That is an "EDTV"

HDTV is 1280x720p or 1920x1080i

 

[her209]

1080p LCD TV

 

[Fritzo]

I'm pretty sure ALL plasmas are 1024x768 BTW

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
I'm pretty sure ALL plasmas are 1024x768 BTW

1365x768

 

[venk]

Someone else said it above. The Pixels are not standard 1:1, they are wide. Akai makes a 1024x1024 Resolution Plasma with 16:9 Pixels.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
That is NOT a HDTV. That is an "EDTV"

HDTV is 1280x720p or 1920x1080i

Why does it have 2 resolutions? Just to confuse the Plasma/LCD/DLP HDTV/EDTV issues even more? LOL.

 

[Abel007]

1024x768 is HDTV. It can accept a 720p signal and will leave small black bars across the top and bottom and not use the 48 extra pixels.

Enchanced TV is 480p. Standard TV is 480i.

The reason 1024x768 is frowned upon cuz its not pixel perfect for a 720p signal (720 horizontal lines) nor a 1080i signal(540 horizontal lines). That being said, a plasma is not a bad purchase because of those wasted 48 pixels. It is a better picture than most LCDs in the same price range. I suggest visiting www.avsforum.com for any other information you need. Great resource and the people there are extremely knowledgable.

 

[skimple]

Originally posted by: zixxer
arg...


anyone want to recommend a tv at least 42 inches for around $2k?

You're not going to get 1080p (1920 x 1080) in a 42" set. I'm not sure what the highest resolution is for a 42" set, but 1024 x 768 is probably pretty close.

 

[Ronin]

The size of the TV has nothing to do with it's capability of doing 1080p. Don't know where you got that idea.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Abel007
1024x768 is HDTV. It can accept a 720p signal and will leave small black bars across the top and bottom and not use the 48 extra pixels.

Enchanced TV is 480p. Standard TV is 480i.

The reason 1024x768 is frowned upon cuz its not pixel perfect for a 720p signal (720 horizontal lines) nor a 1080i signal(540 horizontal lines). That being said, a plasma is not a bad purchase because of those wasted 48 pixels. It is a better picture than most LCDs in the same price range. I suggest visiting www.avsforum.com for any other information you need. Great resource and the people there are extremely knowledgable.

The Standard for HDTV-Resolution is (any) one (1) of three (3) specified resolutions:
720p, 1080i and 1080p

http://www.hdtvinfoport.com/HDTV-Resolution.html

 

[Shawn]

My dad's LCD is 1366x768. WTF is up w/ that?

 

[LeadMagnet]

don't settle for anything less than 1080I - I got a Syntax Olivia 32 for only $800 lastyear

 

[NaOH]

I have this in my room right now. Not refurbished though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16889107001R
It only does 1080i though....

 

[Abel007]

My friend has this set. I have the 37" version. I love it. Only problem is my poor computer can't play many games @ 1920x1080.

42" Westinghouse 1080P



And from the article Howard posted:

Different Views of SDTV and HDTV-Resolution

Digital TV - SDTV:

* 480i - 704x480 interlaced
* 480p - 704x480 progressive


Digital-HDTV:

* 720p - 1280x720 progressive
* 1080i - 1920x1080 interlaced
* 1080p - 1920x1080 progressive

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: venk
Someone else said it above. The Pixels are not standard 1:1, they are wide. Akai makes a 1024x1024 Resolution Plasma with 16:9 Pixels.

1024x1024 is an ALiS screen.

'technically' 1024x768 is 'correct' to be a HDtv. It can display the 720p signal. The standard is FUNKY in the way it stipulates the vertical resolution and 'not' the horizontal resolution to go along with it.

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Abel007
1024x768 is HDTV. It can accept a 720p signal and will leave small black bars across the top and bottom and not use the 48 extra pixels.

Enchanced TV is 480p. Standard TV is 480i.

The reason 1024x768 is frowned upon cuz its not pixel perfect for a 720p signal (720 horizontal lines) nor a 1080i signal(540 horizontal lines). That being said, a plasma is not a bad purchase because of those wasted 48 pixels. It is a better picture than most LCDs in the same price range. I suggest visiting www.avsforum.com for any other information you need. Great resource and the people there are extremely knowledgable.

The Standard for HDTV-Resolution is (any) one (1) of three (3) specified resolutions:
720p, 1080i and 1080p

http://www.hdtvinfoport.com/HDTV-Resolution.html

I would not call a 1024x768 display being HD even though the standard says otherwise. It doesn't show the rest of the horizontal resolution FFS! It should be 1280x720 minimum!

Koing

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: venk
Someone else said it above. The Pixels are not standard 1:1, they are wide. Akai makes a 1024x1024 Resolution Plasma with 16:9 Pixels.

1024x1024 is an ALiS screen.

'technically' 1024x768 is 'correct' to be a HDtv. It can display the 720p signal. The standard is FUNKY in the way it stipulates the vertical resolution and 'not' the horizontal resolution to go along with it.

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Abel007
1024x768 is HDTV. It can accept a 720p signal and will leave small black bars across the top and bottom and not use the 48 extra pixels.

Enchanced TV is 480p. Standard TV is 480i.

The reason 1024x768 is frowned upon cuz its not pixel perfect for a 720p signal (720 horizontal lines) nor a 1080i signal(540 horizontal lines). That being said, a plasma is not a bad purchase because of those wasted 48 pixels. It is a better picture than most LCDs in the same price range. I suggest visiting www.avsforum.com for any other information you need. Great resource and the people there are extremely knowledgable.

The Standard for HDTV-Resolution is (any) one (1) of three (3) specified resolutions:
720p, 1080i and 1080p

http://www.hdtvinfoport.com/HDTV-Resolution.html

I would not call a 1024x768 display being HD even though the standard says otherwise. It doesn't show the rest of the horizontal resolution FFS! It should be 1280x720 minimum!

Koing

The standard does not include 1024x768.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: venk
Someone else said it above. The Pixels are not standard 1:1, they are wide. Akai makes a 1024x1024 Resolution Plasma with 16:9 Pixels.

1024x1024 is an ALiS screen.

'technically' 1024x768 is 'correct' to be a HDtv. It can display the 720p signal. The standard is FUNKY in the way it stipulates the vertical resolution and 'not' the horizontal resolution to go along with it.

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Abel007
1024x768 is HDTV. It can accept a 720p signal and will leave small black bars across the top and bottom and not use the 48 extra pixels.

Enchanced TV is 480p. Standard TV is 480i.

The reason 1024x768 is frowned upon cuz its not pixel perfect for a 720p signal (720 horizontal lines) nor a 1080i signal(540 horizontal lines). That being said, a plasma is not a bad purchase because of those wasted 48 pixels. It is a better picture than most LCDs in the same price range. I suggest visiting www.avsforum.com for any other information you need. Great resource and the people there are extremely knowledgable.

The Standard for HDTV-Resolution is (any) one (1) of three (3) specified resolutions:
720p, 1080i and 1080p

http://www.hdtvinfoport.com/HDTV-Resolution.html

I would not call a 1024x768 display being HD even though the standard says otherwise. It doesn't show the rest of the horizontal resolution FFS! It should be 1280x720 minimum!

Koing

The standard does not include 1024x768.

Correct but it does show 720p which 1024x768 does do. YES a very FUNKY way of defining HDTV imo but the standard says it must show 720p on the vertical. I would not say 1024x768 is a HDTV res but it is by the definition.

Koing

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: venk
Someone else said it above. The Pixels are not standard 1:1, they are wide. Akai makes a 1024x1024 Resolution Plasma with 16:9 Pixels.

1024x1024 is an ALiS screen.

'technically' 1024x768 is 'correct' to be a HDtv. It can display the 720p signal. The standard is FUNKY in the way it stipulates the vertical resolution and 'not' the horizontal resolution to go along with it.

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Abel007
1024x768 is HDTV. It can accept a 720p signal and will leave small black bars across the top and bottom and not use the 48 extra pixels.

Enchanced TV is 480p. Standard TV is 480i.

The reason 1024x768 is frowned upon cuz its not pixel perfect for a 720p signal (720 horizontal lines) nor a 1080i signal(540 horizontal lines). That being said, a plasma is not a bad purchase because of those wasted 48 pixels. It is a better picture than most LCDs in the same price range. I suggest visiting www.avsforum.com for any other information you need. Great resource and the people there are extremely knowledgable.

The Standard for HDTV-Resolution is (any) one (1) of three (3) specified resolutions:
720p, 1080i and 1080p

http://www.hdtvinfoport.com/HDTV-Resolution.html

I would not call a 1024x768 display being HD even though the standard says otherwise. It doesn't show the rest of the horizontal resolution FFS! It should be 1280x720 minimum!

Koing

The standard does not include 1024x768.

Correct but it does show 720p which 1024x768 does do.

How do you figure?

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Koing
Correct but it does show 720p which 1024x768 does do.

How do you figure?

768 - 720 = 48 left

It can 'display' the 720p lines in full unlike the 848x480 plasma screens which can display a 720p signal, but it is downscaled to fit. 1024x768 of course doesn't display the vertical lines.

Read the link a few posts above. The HDTV standard is funky in describing it this way. It only describes the vertical resolution needed to display and not the horizontal also.

Koing

 

[Abel007]

1024x768 is capable of displaying a 720p image therefore it is considered HD. Not ideal, but it can technically be called HDTV.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: Koing
Correct but it does show 720p which 1024x768 does do.

How do you figure?

768 - 720 = 48 left

It can 'display' the 720p lines in full unlike the 848x480 plasma screens which can display a 720p signal, but it is downscaled to fit. 1024x768 of course doesn't display the vertical lines.

Read the link a few posts above. The HDTV standard is funky in describing it this way. It only describes the vertical resolution needed to display and not the horizontal also.

Koing

Yes, but AFAIK, 720p stands for 1280x720 progressive, not just any resolution with 720 horizontal lines.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Abel007
1024x768 is capable of displaying a 720p image therefore it is considered HD.

You mean after scaling?

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Howard
Yes, but AFAIK, 720p stands for 1280x720 progressive, not just any resolution with 720 horizontal lines.

Yes that is what most people think also.

HDTV is 720 horizontal lines. VERY silly of them to say it this way but traditionally resolution for tvs have been measured using horizontal lines and it was a 'given'.

I personally wouldn't call 1024 x 768 HDTV . Min is 1280x720p imo

Koing