What about PvP "does it" for you?

[exilera]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Gurck
Yeah, much better to argue on teh intarweb! Seriously, there are medications available...

I'm not the one who started the stupid thread, kettle.

I asked a nonoffensive question, you're one of two "people" arguing for the sake of argument, namecalling, posting only to insult and add nothing to the thread.

You posting wondering why you don't have any competitive drive......in a software forum.....just wtf were you expecting?

No, I posted asking about PvP in games, which are software. I guess I didn't count on being flamed by bored 12 year olds for not being exactly like them. Live & learn.

Wow, you just ooze stupidity, don't you? The age card is a common theme with you, isn't it? "you must be a teenager!" "you must be a bored 12 year old!" "Whaaa! Whaaa!". Considering you love to argue so much, I would think you'd be somewhat original. I guess that's too much to ask, though, from a conceited fool with a superiority complex, who thinks he has an IQ over 75 With 10,000+ posts in a year, it's blatantly obvious you're nothing more than a socially inept forum troll.

 

[Acanthus]

the RvR system in Dark age of camelot is far more complex (and dare i say, better implemented) than the system in place no in wow.

Right now its a total sh!tstorm of ganking while people freak out about the new feature, when its "newness" dies down, you will see a lot less of the 4 raid groups vs 3 raid groups type combat, and more 5v5 or 1v1 combat.

 

[exilera]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
the RvR system in Dark age of camelot is far more complex (and dare i say, better implemented) than the system in place no in wow.

Right now its a total sh!tstorm of ganking while people freak out about the new feature, when its "newness" dies down, you will see a lot less of the 4 raid groups vs 3 raid groups type combat, and more 5v5 or 1v1 combat.

I agree. I've spent the last two nights I played doing instances instead of participating in the 50vs50 (or in our case, more like 30vs50) zergfests. There're some really nice new items we've found in strath and scholo...

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: exilera

Originally posted by: Acanthus
the RvR system in Dark age of camelot is far more complex (and dare i say, better implemented) than the system in place no in wow.

Right now its a total sh!tstorm of ganking while people freak out about the new feature, when its "newness" dies down, you will see a lot less of the 4 raid groups vs 3 raid groups type combat, and more 5v5 or 1v1 combat.

I agree. I've spent the last two nights I played doing instances instead of participating in the 50vs50 (or in our case, more like 30vs50) zergfests. There're some really nice new items we've found in strath and scholo...

Ive been dieing to hit those zones but cant find enough willing (and not retarded) participants to go

 

[exilera]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: exilera

Originally posted by: Acanthus
the RvR system in Dark age of camelot is far more complex (and dare i say, better implemented) than the system in place no in wow.

Right now its a total sh!tstorm of ganking while people freak out about the new feature, when its "newness" dies down, you will see a lot less of the 4 raid groups vs 3 raid groups type combat, and more 5v5 or 1v1 combat.

I agree. I've spent the last two nights I played doing instances instead of participating in the 50vs50 (or in our case, more like 30vs50) zergfests. There're some really nice new items we've found in strath and scholo...

Ive been dieing to hit those zones but cant find enough willing (and not retarded) participants to go

That's because everyone's wasting hours of their time in ultra lag infested raid vs raid pvp It amazes me why people do that; you get almost zero contribution points for killing someone as part of a raid...

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: exilera

Originally posted by: Acanthus
the RvR system in Dark age of camelot is far more complex (and dare i say, better implemented) than the system in place no in wow.

Right now its a total sh!tstorm of ganking while people freak out about the new feature, when its "newness" dies down, you will see a lot less of the 4 raid groups vs 3 raid groups type combat, and more 5v5 or 1v1 combat.

I agree. I've spent the last two nights I played doing instances instead of participating in the 50vs50 (or in our case, more like 30vs50) zergfests. There're some really nice new items we've found in strath and scholo...

Ive been dieing to hit those zones but cant find enough willing (and not retarded) participants to go

Ugh tell me about it, to fill in holes made by guild members (~90% of them) who'd rather be PvPing we've taken some really bad players with us... Even the ones who know what they're doing are often limited by level and/or gear. I had to do my best (which wasn't very good) at keeping a 56 priest with under 2k unbuffed hp alive in Scholomance the other day... I couldn't care less if the honor system went in on PvP servers, but as it stands it's ruining the game as I enjoyed it on a PvE realm.

 

[g8wayrebel]

Don't like it , but it very much resembles true life in the manner you stated it. That is very much like what you can expect in many neighborhoods around this country.

 

[Schadenfroh]

I have grown to hate PvP servers, i have just reached lvl 30 mage on smolderthorn and i am under constant gankage because horde rogues wait and camp every mob and gank people. This is far worse than it was on bloodscalp before the pvp honor system. All my friends in RL are on this server and i am trying to get them to go back to the RP servers, but they want to stay on PvP and get spawned camped for some reason. I will probably end up cancelling my subscripton.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I have grown to hate PvP servers, i have just reached lvl 30 mage on smolderthorn and i am under constant gankage because horde rogues wait and camp every mob and gank people. This is far worse than it was on bloodscalp before the pvp honor system. All my friends in RL are on this server and i am trying to get them to go back to the RP servers, but they want to stay on PvP and get spawned camped for some reason. I will probably end up cancelling my subscripton.

I cancelled, last logged in around 4/20, account expired 5/5 - and I was on a PvE server. Simply not enough people willing to take time out from tarren mill to raid/group for PvE.

 

[kongs]

I never played WoW but I have watched my friends play...seems pretty fun. I do have experience with PvP though and that comes with Lineage 2. There were plenty of Greifers and nonstop PKing, but I found in enjoyable. And the real PvP with siege and people just flagging was awesome, it always gave me a rush. I think the reason why you don't like PvP is exactly what you said you aren't into competition, I personally am a 3 sport athlete and will be playing football in college next year and I live for competition. Someone beats me and I will be working as hard as I can to be able to beat that person the next time.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: kongs
I never played WoW but I have watched my friends play...seems pretty fun. I do have experience with PvP though and that comes with Lineage 2. There were plenty of Greifers and nonstop PKing, but I found in enjoyable. And the real PvP with siege and people just flagging was awesome, it always gave me a rush. I think the reason why you don't like PvP is exactly what you said you aren't into competition, I personally am a 3 sport athlete and will be playing football in college next year and I live for competition. Someone beats me and I will be working as hard as I can to be able to beat that person the next time.

You cannot compare WoW to this......

In WoW you could have very poor skill but if you have level seniority, you will win. You could be the most skilled person but when it comes to competition but when someone is out ganking, they could have 6 levels above you (you get an honor kill if they are within 6 levels) and you will lose. Skill does not matter at that point, it is all about who can achieve a higher level.

This cartoon puts it nicely

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2005-05-09

Competition is fun when it is about skill. WoW does not have hardly any skill involved when it comes to someone 6 levels above you, unless you are talking about running skills.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: kongs
I never played WoW but I have watched my friends play...seems pretty fun. I do have experience with PvP though and that comes with Lineage 2. There were plenty of Greifers and nonstop PKing, but I found in enjoyable. And the real PvP with siege and people just flagging was awesome, it always gave me a rush. I think the reason why you don't like PvP is exactly what you said you aren't into competition, I personally am a 3 sport athlete and will be playing football in college next year and I live for competition. Someone beats me and I will be working as hard as I can to be able to beat that person the next time.

You cannot compare WoW to this......

In WoW you could have very poor skill but if you have level seniority, you will win. You could be the most skilled person but when it comes to competition but when someone is out ganking, they could have 6 levels above you (you get an honor kill if they are within 6 levels) and you will lose. Skill does not matter at that point, it is all about who can achieve a higher level.

This cartoon puts it nicely

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2005-05-09

Competition is fun when it is about skill. WoW does not have hardly any skill involved when it comes to someone 6 levels above you, unless you are talking about running skills.

Group up with someone good.
Me and a friend, both lvl 46 were running around in Feralas the other day, we took out many people who were 5+ lvls higher than us, as well as a group of 3 lvl 45's.

I didn't like the HS to begin with either, but two things have happened to change my mind.
For one, things have cooled off a lot, there aren't gank squads running around killing everything in sight anymore, outside of the major hot zones that is.
And secondly, when questing, you'll need to adjust a bit more these days.
Too many alliance in STV? I'll go to Feralas, Tanaris, or whereever instead.

 

[skace]

What is good about PvP? 1 word, dynamic.

When going to do an instance, you have to realize there is a risk involved that another team of alliance may be going to do that same instance. They may be waiting at the portal or hiding in ambush. This means you actually have to use your brains and communicate and work together as you go to an instance.

When farming an area or doing a quest, you may be able to solo the actual content but perhaps the area is a known contested area. This adds a new dynamic that may make you want to bring a friend or 2. Perhaps your friend is a level 60 rogue that follows you in stealth using you as bait while you do quests. Perhaps your friend is just another playing who wants to do the quest also. Perhaps you decide to do the quest alone knowing the risk. All of these choices would be non existant in a non pvp environment. It would simply be a quest that you know you can complete because 100000s have completed it before you, yawn.

When traveling you may have 2 choices. 1 Path would be along the road, where there arn't many monsters, the other path would take you through several monster infested camps. Your decision is which path is actually more dangerous. The road may be littered with high level rogues just waiting for a retard to run by, where as, the worst you will find in the camps is some unintelligent mobs to run from and some hurt players that won't necessarily want to attack you. Another traveling choice might be whether to run near an opposing city or take a much longer route.

And the last reasons I love pvp:
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/skace/Skac..._-_Neighborhood_Welcoming_Commitee.jpg
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/skace/Skace_-_TS_-_Barrens_War01.jpg