What a bunch of sick b@stards!

[Doggiedog]

I don't agree with the US bombing Iraqi civilians either. However, you have to try and justify the end with the means. Do we allow Sadaam to continue his wave of killing, whether it be gassing Kurds, his own people or even assassinating his own children or do we attack enemy positions that Sadaam himself placed in the middle of residential areas and put his own people at risk in order to try and dislodge him. I don't think the US has any intent on indiscriminately killing civilians. That is why we are using smart bombs not carpet bombs in Iraq.

These two examples have absolutely nothing in common. One is about removing a man from power. A man who is putting his own people in harms way to solidify his own power and is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of his own people. The other is about a small group of people who revel in drinking the blood of slain settlers.

 

[KameLeon]

Who is John Galt?

 

[warcleric]

Doggie: AS REPORTED BY THE US MEDIA, were you there? How the hell do you know what that war is really about. I doubt many of us could grasp it completely even if it were explained to us, there are 1000's of years of culture that has attributed to this. Just open up your mind a little. You are obviously young.

 

[BoberFett]

<< Aren't we supposed to be living in civilized times though? >>

Define civilized.

Part of the problem is that people living in advanced (socially, technologically, etc.) countries tend to expect the rest of the world to be at the same place we are. Just a couple centuries ago, white men were herding Native Americans onto reservations. Today we would condemn another countries for taking that same action.

What many don't realize is that you can't force another culture to catch up to where your culture is. Every culture must overcome its own set of problems in order to advance. We can't fix it for them.

 

[Doggiedog]

I don't know the circumstances that lead to the murders, sure. But to me, this sounds like Hutu vs Tutsi on the opposite side of the world again. What does opening up my mind have to do with the fact that organized savage murders are occurring again in the world? Maybe you feel it's naive of me to think we can all get along but I don't see what's wrong with that. People have got to start somewhere.

You'd think in a semi-advanced country like Indonesia, they'd try and protect their own citizens from events like this.

BTW: I don't see your point in calling me young just because you think savage murders are justified due to 1000s of years of history. Having a 9 month old son of my own, I just think it is just sad that children and women are being butchered(according to US MEDIA). I can't even imagine seeing my baby without a head.

 

[LordMaul]

(in the backround)

Hey, gimme a head..err...hand over here!

 

[JoeBaD]

No question that the US's actions in Vietnam were not always lily white and virgin pure, but to compare them to the carnage that this thread is about is just plain wrong.

and again, look at what the the north did to the people of the south after we left and ask those families if they wouldn't had rather the Americans back.

ya know, its so damn easy to knock this country but if it wasn't for the good ole USofA the world would be a toilet. The French &amp; English would be speeking German (or maybe Russian). No rap against any of those country's people but if the US hadn't been around to put down the Hitlers/Stalins/etc. this world would be a far worse place.

Now its New Zealand DEMANDING an explanation from us why one of their officers died in Kuwait. It was an accident damn it. Five of our guys died too. Live fire practices are a dangerous business.

Let me go before my blood pressue rises any further. Sorry if I offended anyone.