What’s up with the Gulf and Deplorables?

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Moonbeam

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The big problem I see with political divisions and the contempt for others it creates is that it's all about ego identification. Why do we need to be right? Why do we need to feel we are on morality's side. Why do we, in essence identify with what we feel is superior? Are we subject to such needs?

That last question seems undeniable to me. So where did we get such needs. Why do we identify with what is superior and once hooked never question it?

Have you ever really seriously tried to generate a scientific proof that what you believe is Truth with that capital T. I did and I discovered that all I had were unprovable assumptions I realized were simply opinions. There is no such thing as provable truth, goodness, or meaning but hiding behind them was a need to believe I had known what they were. I realized that everything I believed was utterly absurd and that the longing to believe them was a longing for something else, a desire to return to a long lost innocence where there was a joy in just being me. I suddenly saw that the need for meaning is as meaningless as everything else. That I am who I always was. It wasn't lost, it was just hidden by a loss of self respect. I was made to feel I was the cause of other's misery.

Think of how angry a person can be who is robbed of the only thing of value in life, the joy of being.

And we were not just robbed by others, we gave it away to worship other gods. That is what makes all of us worshipers deplorable. We hate deplorables because all us deplorables hate ourselves.

But the facts are it could not have been otherwise. We had to die to joy to physically survive. Guilt is just another belief that does not exist.
 
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Nah there are some deplorables where they set a firm line. Guy I kinda know did this. Kids in cages was his breaking point on the first term.
I doubt he voted for a second term but he wants stuff up to but not including kids in cages.
There certainly are levels of deplorable.
Appears John did not vote MAGA. Also appears he is not happy with developments.
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HomerJS

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Why be snippy with me? It was your party that pretended Joe was in top shape. It was your party that decided not to have a primary, it was your party that forced Joe out and slid Harris in. It was your leadership that decided that calling half the voters deplorables and garbage was a winning strategy. The democrats gave the election to Trump, and now you're all angry and once again telling Americans how stupid they are for not listening to their betters.

Just keep being condescending, insulting, and hateful, I'm sure that strategy will work out for you in the next election. Or maybe the one after that.
You are responsible by voting for this shit. Not just the contents of this thread but everything he’s done since Jan 20. Take responsibility.

Seems people like you are more motivated by black people stealing pets to eat them vs helping first time homebuyers get their first house.

Not exactly a sane playing field.
 
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brycejones

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Why be snippy with me? It was your party that pretended Joe was in top shape. It was your party that decided not to have a primary, it was your party that forced Joe out and slid Harris in. It was your leadership that decided that calling half the voters deplorables and garbage was a winning strategy. The democrats gave the election to Trump, and now you're all angry and once again telling Americans how stupid they are for not listening to their betters.

Just keep being condescending, insulting, and hateful, I'm sure that strategy will work out for you in the next election. Or maybe the one after that.
Where did the Harris campaign call voters deplorables and garbage?

Take responsibility for your vote.

Fucking party of personal responsibility my ass.
 

uallas5

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I tried finding out how much it will cost the US government to do this but I came up empty, I'm surprised the GAO hasn't released an estimate yet. Since the OMB is run from the White House, I'm not expecting anything from them. It's got to be in the 100's of millions if not billions of dollars to change the name on all the current government reference materials, sea charts, maps, contracts, GPS, etc. Not just for civilian use but all military references to the Gulf of Mexico will need to changed as well.

Fucking party of personal responsibility my ass.
Fucking party of fiscal responsibility my ass.
 
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Greenman

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You are responsible by voting for this shit. Not just the contents of this thread but everything he’s done since Jan 20. Take responsibility.

Seems people like you are more motivated by black people stealing pets to eat them vs helping first time homebuyers get their first house.

Not exactly a sane playing field.
So you're not unburdened by what has been?

What happened is called democracy. The majority decided that Trump was a better choice than Harris. Be angry at me if that makes you feel better, but it changes nothing, including my beliefs.
 
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brycejones

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So you're not unburdened by what has been?

What happened is called democracy. The majority decided that Trump was a better choice than Harris. Be angry at me if that makes you feel better, but it changes nothing, including my beliefs.
Less than 50% is not a "majority".

Trump received a plurality of votes with 49.8%. A majority would be 50% +1 vote.
 
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Less than 50% is not a "majority".

Trump received a plurality of votes with 49.8%. A majority would be 50% +1 vote.
We had this discussion yesterday keep it dumb to be liked or sound like a snotty lib.
The latter hasn’t worked well for over 15 years.
 

brycejones

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aWe had this discussion yesterday keep it dumb to be liked or sound like a snotty lib.
The latter hasn’t worked well for over 15 years.
We did. I read your posts and found them lacking.

It's accurate to say "Trump got the most votes", "Trump received a plurality of votes"
It's not accurate to say "Trump got a majority of votes".

So I guess for the uneducated crowd we can say "Trump got the most votes".

But just ignoring the meaning of words is fucking stupid.
 
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We did. I read your posts and found them lacking.

It's accurate to say "Trump got the most votes", "Trump received a plurality of votes"
It's not accurate to say "Trump got a majority of votes".

So I guess for the uneducated crowd we can say "Trump got the most votes".

But just ignoring the meaning of words is fucking stupid.
Fine then keep it to he got the most votes
Keep it simple & dumb
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You have seconds of a persons full attention at best. Should those seconds be used educating about the difference between majority & plurality or is better to state what the point of the issue is?
 
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MrSquished

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Let's enjoy the schadenfreude of @Greenman getting fucked over by Trump policies - I'm going to set myself a nice table setting for that meal of deliciousness. Maybe I'll even light some candles.
 
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nakedfrog

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For people who are concerned with efficiency in government*, what's the justification for the expenditure of effort in renaming the Gulf of Mexico?

*More accurately, people who claim to be concerned with it
 
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sdifox

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For people who are concerned with efficiency in government*, what's the justification for the expenditure of effort in renaming the Gulf of Mexico?

*More accurately, people who claim to be concerned with it
They think they can trick people into staying in Mexico cuz you are already at Gulf of America, you must be in USA.


Yes, Trump is that dumb.
 

outriding

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So you're not unburdened by what has been?

What happened is called democracy. The majority decided that Trump was a better choice than Harris. Be angry at me if that makes you feel better, but it changes nothing, including my beliefs.

What happened was a bunch of dumb fucks voting
 

Greenman

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What happened was a bunch of dumb fucks voting
So the majority are dumb fucks, I won't even attempt to argue that point. So the next question has to be, how do we control the dumb fucks and make them vote the correct way? What happens if they refuse to listen to their betters and keep voting as dumb fucks?
This is a serious problem.