What’s up with the Gulf and Deplorables?

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Some of deplorables I know keep posting stuff on Facebook like these. What is the meaning of it in conservative media?
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Just playing off the "Gulf of America" quip Trump had the other day. And it is just spreading to ensure everyone on social media becomes irony poisoned. Just flood social media with garbage and see what floats out to the masses.

Being genuine is now cringe, and posting memes helps to spread and normalize toxic and bad ideas.
 

nakedfrog

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I think it's more likely to end up "Trump's Gulf of America", "Trump's Greenland", and so forth.
 
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Greenman

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I'm a deplorable and I've never seen any of those, and have no idea what they're all about.
 

Greenman

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Says more about you voting for this moron. Proud yet?
Why be snippy with me? It was your party that pretended Joe was in top shape. It was your party that decided not to have a primary, it was your party that forced Joe out and slid Harris in. It was your leadership that decided that calling half the voters deplorables and garbage was a winning strategy. The democrats gave the election to Trump, and now you're all angry and once again telling Americans how stupid they are for not listening to their betters.

Just keep being condescending, insulting, and hateful, I'm sure that strategy will work out for you in the next election. Or maybe the one after that.
 
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MrSquished

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Says more about you voting for this moron. Proud yet?
Don't forget, Biden didn't end up being the nominee, but a black woman did, and that did not sit well with one of our resident scum, @Greenman - an d regardless, nothing forced him to vote for Trump, don't vote at all - but we all know he loves the MAGA and Trump shit deep down, and not so deep down.

It's a fascinating sociological and psychological thing to behold - a learning lesson about why history happens the way it does. The worst people in a society will find any reason to excuse the absolute evil they support - in many ways, in this case, the other side made me do it. I mean these people are fundamentally defective.
 

Moonbeam

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I'm a deplorable and I've never seen any of those, and have no idea what they're all about.
In my opinion you misapprehend both yourself and the situation. I believe you have set of profoundly valuable moral beliefs that are misunderstood both by yourself and others. As a result, because those values are real in reality, you dearly hold onto them, while at the same time, owing to just that same sense of real value inherit to them, are blind to how improperly apply.

The kind of blindness I am talking about here is not something unique to you. In my opinion it is almost universal. It is the condition of being governed internally by forgotten conditioning from our past. Our world views are governed by motivations we do not see because we were conditioned never to question them.

I call this being asleep.

For example, let’s take a moral beliefs that it is better to be kind to people than to be mean. Who lives in the better mental condition, a person who feels empathy for others or a person who is always bitter and recriminatory.

Perhaps for those who are so left brained they have no idea, we could turn to science for an answer and see in which kind of person the better health promoting chemicals each different brain is releasing. I think the evidence is in on that. Anger, depression and stress aren’t good for you.

So someone taught to be nice to people has a better shot at a better life, all other factors aside. But what if the way the way you were taught to be nice was beaten into a child every time he expressed some natural egotistical need. In much a case the nice behavior on the surface might be there at the command of an unconscious motivation, fear of showing nastiness. Such niceness in that case is both false and unhealthy and will require self reflection and courage to cure. The real feelings of repressed bitterness must surface and be dealt with honestly.

So, while conservatives subscribe to a greater number of moral concerns than liberals do and as a result have the capacity to understand moral values better, they can have been conditioned to hold those values in a way that is deplorable when applied.

I think that your attachment to conservatism fails to account for the fact that many who claim conservative values do so simply to save face and are actually full of repressed and very unhealthy feelings they fail to see for fear of feeling shame. They were made to be good out of fear rather than out of real undamaged empathy.

I think you identify with conservatives who are not actually able to be conservative out of love for values and not a rational analysis of the actual practice. The values are good, the practice is deplorable. Practice detachment from herds.
 

Greenman

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In my opinion you misapprehend both yourself and the situation. I believe you have set of profoundly valuable moral beliefs that are misunderstood both by yourself and others. As a result, because those values are real in reality, you dearly hold onto them, while at the same time, owing to just that same sense of real value inherit to them, are blind to how improperly apply.

The kind of blindness I am talking about here is not something unique to you. In my opinion it is almost universal. It is the condition of being governed internally by forgotten conditioning from our past. Our world views are governed by motivations we do not see because we were conditioned never to question them.

I call this being asleep.

For example, let’s take a moral beliefs that it is better to be kind to people than to be mean. Who lives in the better mental condition, a person who feels empathy for others or a person who is always bitter and recriminatory.

Perhaps for those who are so left brained they have no idea, we could turn to science for an answer and see in which kind of person the better health promoting chemicals each different brain is releasing. I think the evidence is in on that. Anger, depression and stress aren’t good for you.

So someone taught to be nice to people has a better shot at a better life, all other factors aside. But what if the way the way you were taught to be nice was beaten into a child every time he expressed some natural egotistical need. In much a case the nice behavior on the surface might be there at the command of an unconscious motivation, fear of showing nastiness. Such niceness in that case is both false and unhealthy and will require self reflection and courage to cure. The real feelings of repressed bitterness must surface and be dealt with honestly.

So, while conservatives subscribe to a greater number of moral concerns than liberals do and as a result have the capacity to understand moral values better, they can have been conditioned to hold those values in a way that is deplorable when applied.

I think that your attachment to conservatism fails to account for the fact that many who claim conservative values do so simply to save face and are actually full of repressed and very unhealthy feelings they fail to see for fear of feeling shame. They were made to be good out of fear rather than out of real undamaged empathy.

I think you identify with conservatives who are not actually able to be conservative out of love for values and not a rational analysis of the actual practice. The values are good, the practice is deplorable. Practice detachment from herds.
Well thought out, and well stated.
 

MrSquished

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Nah you’re a borderline deplorable.
Basically you are too smart to be a true deplorable.
Brother, you seem like a fairly rational person, but did you get a concussion before typing that?

A deplorable is a deplorable. It doesn't matter if they are not as truly dumb as some. In fact, that makes him even worse.
 
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Brother, you seem like a fairly rational person, but did you get a concussion before typing that?

A deplorable is a deplorable. It doesn't matter if they are not as truly dumb as some. In fact, that makes him even worse.
Nah there are some deplorables where they set a firm line. Guy I kinda know did this. Kids in cages was his breaking point on the first term.
I doubt he voted for a second term but he wants stuff up to but not including kids in cages.
There certainly are levels of deplorable.
 

BoomerD

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Nah there are some deplorables where they set a firm line. Guy I kinda know did this. Kids in cages was his breaking point on the first term.
I doubt he voted for a second term but he wants stuff up to but not including kids in cages.
There certainly are levels of deplorable.

You'd think so...but Red Squirrel lost his fckn mind ovet "death camps" a few years ago...and hasn't found it yet.
 

MrSquished

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Nah there are some deplorables where they set a firm line. Guy I kinda know did this. Kids in cages was his breaking point on the first term.
I doubt he voted for a second term but he wants stuff up to but not including kids in cages.
There certainly are levels of deplorable.
It's different if they said Trump is a no and they didn't vote for him. Greenman is a Trump 2024 voter. Those are all 100% deplorables.
 

MrSquished

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You'd think so...but Red Squirrel lost his fckn mind ovet "death camps" a few years ago...and hasn't found it yet.
Let's face it, he didn't have too much of a mind to lose in the first place. I'd be surprised if he could walk and chew gum at the same time.