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Westboro Baptist Church

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Originally posted by: Xanis
Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Where do these people keep getting money from?

Probably donations from their equally messed up congregation.

They have a lot of lawyers in that family who like to sue anyone that violates their rights
 
Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Uh, people don't deserve to die for hurting somebody's feelings...

See? people like this ass right here criticize religion with one left hand. And with another left hand, they shield them so they have an excuse to make these the archetypal religious person.

So he's an ass and a hypocrite for criticizing religion but at the same time respecting their right to an opinion and a voice? As much of an extreme example these people are, there's no place in society for them to be physically attacked for their beliefs, no matter how disgusting they may be. These people do not go out and physically assault others as far as I know and while they do disrupt sacred events, there are counter-organizations that protect these events. Our society should not rely on silencing the voices of others, our society should rely on educating others that these kinds of messages are wrong.
 
Originally posted by: TehMac
They're not religious they're just fucking insane. 50 years ago they would have been locked up in the paddy wagon. But because the left wing nutters think we live in Germany in 1940, that's not going to happen.

You're fucking retarded. First of all, religious zealotry IS insanity. Secondly, they get away with this shit because they're not hurting anyone. They're stupid assholes, that's for sure, but they're just trying to get a rise out of people by using their freedom of speech to push buttons. If we were not allowed to be completely douche-asses without hurting people, you would be locked up too, prick.

Go back to your cave and stab some more of your liberal voodoo dolls, you big baby.
 
Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Uh, people don't deserve to die for hurting somebody's feelings...

See? people like this ass right here criticize religion with one left hand. And with another left hand, they shield them so they have an excuse to make these the archetypal religious person.

When did I do that? And what does my left hand have to do with anything? And who has two left hands? And can you tie your own shoes?
 
Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Uh, people don't deserve to die for hurting somebody's feelings...

See? people like this ass right here criticize religion with one left hand. And with another left hand, they shield them so they have an excuse to make these the archetypal religious person.

When did I do that? And what does my left hand have to do with anything? And who has two left hands? And can you tie your own shoes?

He's trying to be clever by using the word "left" as many times as possible. Apparently, cherishing our rights and not sacrificing them for a few assholes like the westbro-bitches means that you're a liberal. (As if that were a bad thing)

He's a complete and utter moron.
 
Originally posted by: clamum
I would love to see that church nuked and/or all of its members lined up in front of a big hole and shot. Easy cleanup, just bulldoze dirt over the hole.
wtf Hitler, I thought you were dead.
 
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: halik
if noone pays attention to them, they lose

That works for the general public, to a degree (and we're not ignoring them), but not for the people they are actively protesting.

edit:
OP, perhaps you can contact the Patriot Guard Riders.
http://www.patriotguard.org/

They actively STOP the Westboro baptist church from protesting funerals. Generally it's for fallen soldiers, but perhaps they will take interest in your issue.

Good luck.

Thanks, someone has already forwarded info about the Patriot Guard to my friend.
 
Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: Xanis
Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Where do these people keep getting money from?

Probably donations from their equally messed up congregation.

I thought their congregation was like 12 people.

It's much more than that I believe, but it's just two families basically.
 
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: halik
if noone pays attention to them, they lose

That works for the general public, to a degree (and we're not ignoring them), but not for the people they are actively protesting.

edit:
OP, perhaps you can contact the Patriot Guard Riders.
http://www.patriotguard.org/

They actively STOP the Westboro baptist church from protesting funerals. Generally it's for fallen soldiers, but perhaps they will take interest in your issue.

Good luck.

How do they stop them from protesting?
 
Originally posted by: TehMac
They're not religious they're just fucking insane. 50 years ago they would have been locked up in the paddy wagon. But because the left wing nutters think we live in Germany in 1940, that's not going to happen.


Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: Saint Michael
Uh, people don't deserve to die for hurting somebody's feelings...

See? people like this ass right here criticize religion with one left hand. And with another left hand, they shield them so they have an excuse to make these the archetypal religious person.


For better or for worse, that's the way it works:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

And that's the way it should be.
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
As not mentioned in another thread, Vic's wife's dill pickles > any other pickles

Fixed. And it's true. I am a lucky man.

Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Why would God hate Maryland? It's named after the mother of his child. Is he still feeling guilty about that one-night stand? "Can't stand this baby mama drama... fuck Maryland!"

If anything, I think the existence of Fred Phelps proves that God hates Kansas. And his success proves God hates the rest of us too.

No to the first part. Maryland was named after Queen Mary, wife of Charles I of England.

I agree to the second part.

Originally posted by: TehMac
They're not religious they're just fucking insane. 50 years ago they would have been locked up in the paddy wagon. But because the left wing nutters think we live in Germany in 1940, that's not going to happen.

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

Originally posted by: manowar821
You're fucking retarded. First of all, religious zealotry IS insanity. Secondly, they get away with this shit because they're not hurting anyone. They're stupid assholes, that's for sure, but they're just trying to get a rise out of people by using their freedom of speech to push buttons. If we were not allowed to be completely douche-asses without hurting people, you would be locked up too, prick.

Go back to your cave and stab some more of your liberal voodoo dolls, you big baby.

Insanity is a legal term, not a medical one. Or perhaps you know which specific mental illness "religious zealotry" falls under in the DSM-IV? Yeah...

But otherwise, I agree. We do have the right to be assholes to each other as long no tangible or physical harm (or actual threat of) actually occurs.
But as socially liberal as I am, I'd be willing to make an exception for the Phelps family. Not because they're religious zealots, but because they aren't. Their claim of being religious is just a sham to do what they do.
 
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: halik
if noone pays attention to them, they lose

That works for the general public, to a degree (and we're not ignoring them), but not for the people they are actively protesting.

edit:
OP, perhaps you can contact the Patriot Guard Riders.
http://www.patriotguard.org/

They actively STOP the Westboro baptist church from protesting funerals. Generally it's for fallen soldiers, but perhaps they will take interest in your issue.

Good luck.

How do they stop them from protesting?

AFAIK, they don't actually stop them, but prevent them from being seen or heard by the grieving.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
As not mentioned in another thread, Vic's wife's dill pickles > any other pickles

Fixed. And it's true. I am a lucky man.

Put your pickle where my mouth is, mister!

...

That doesn't sound right at all.
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
As not mentioned in another thread, Vic's wife's dill pickles > any other pickles

Fixed. And it's true. I am a lucky man.

Put your pickle where my mouth is, mister!

...

That doesn't sound right at all.

😕

:Q

No really, my wife makes the best pickles ever. Crisp, juicy, and Spicy (with a capital S). So good in fact that a few years back a friend of hers talked her into entering them in the state fair and she won the ribbon. Seriously. The bomb. We have friends who will beg and wait in line to get a jar every year.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
As not mentioned in another thread, Vic's wife's dill pickles > any other pickles

Fixed. And it's true. I am a lucky man.

Put your pickle where my mouth is, mister!

...

That doesn't sound right at all.

😕

:Q

No really, my wife makes the best pickles ever. Crisp, juicy, and Spicy (with a capital S). So good in fact that a few years back a friend of hers talked her into entering them in the state fair and she won the ribbon. Seriously. The bomb. We have friends who will beg and wait in line to get a jar every year.

maybe she should think about selling em?
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Insanity is a legal term, not a medical one. Or perhaps you know which specific mental illness "religious zealotry" falls under in the DSM-IV? Yeah...

But otherwise, I agree. We do have the right to be assholes to each other as long no tangible or physical harm (or actual threat of) actually occurs.
But as socially liberal as I am, I'd be willing to make an exception for the Phelps family. Not because they're religious zealots, but because they aren't. Their claim of being religious is just a sham to do what they do.

I suppose I shouldn't call them "insane" and give them that amount of respect. If they really were mentally ill, it wouldn't exactly be their fault. They're just pricks.

But anyway, I'm not so sure I'd be willing to make an exception, but I do for other forms of bigoted zealots (like white supremacists, etcetera). Maybe I'm being hypocritical. Though, the westbro folk haven't attacked anyone, murdered anyone, or committed arson, and they haven't vandalized any property with their version of a swastika or whatever.

I'm on the fence, I guess. Is that bad?
 
Originally posted by: Vic
But otherwise, I agree. We do have the right to be assholes to each other as long no tangible or physical harm (or actual threat of) actually occurs.
But as socially liberal as I am, I'd be willing to make an exception for the Phelps family. Not because they're religious zealots, but because they aren't. Their claim of being religious is just a sham to do what they do.

Exactly. What a lot of people don't get is that just because someone claims to be religious, and wears the mantle of religiosity, it doesn't make that person a true Christian or whatever he/she claims to be. The condition of your heart (mind) -> What you say -> What you do. These people are doing something wrong and not at all what Christ would do, and in all likelihood they are not true Christians but merely pretending to be (whether they believe it themselves or not is another story) Christians. Tares among the wheat.
 
Originally posted by: maziwanka
maybe she should think about selling em?

I don't think we'd be able to compete with Wal-Mart at $2/gallon (or whatever they sell them for).


Originally posted by: manowar821
I suppose I shouldn't call them "insane" and give them that amount of respect. If they really were mentally ill, it wouldn't exactly be their fault. They're just pricks.

But anyway, I'm not so sure I'd be willing to make an exception, but I do for other forms of bigoted zealots (like white supremacists, etcetera). Maybe I'm being hypocritical. Though, the westbro folk haven't attacked anyone, murdered anyone, or committed arson, and they haven't vandalized any property with their version of a swastika or whatever.

I'm on the fence, I guess. Is that bad?

Nah, although the Phelps have had some legitimate run-ins with the law.

All I can say is that if bad manners were a capital crime, the Phelps would be the first with their backs against the wall, even before the white supremacists and that driver on his cell phone who cuts you off without signaling.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Maryland was named after Queen Mary, wife of Charles I of England.

Queen Mary was named for the Madonna, Mary, wife of Joseph of the House of David, mother to Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ. So despite which specific Mary Maryland happened to be named for, it can be traced back to the blessed virgin. I'm sorry, I went to a Catholic wedding this weekend, and it's hard to get the fire and brimstone out of my ear (I burned through half a box of Q-Tips at the reception).

What part of Portland are you in? I'd love to sample your wife's pickles. I don't think I've ever had a spicy pickle; sounds disturbing honestly, although I love pickles and I love spicy food, so maybe it could work.
 
Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Originally posted by: Vic
Maryland was named after Queen Mary, wife of Charles I of England.

Queen Mary was named for the Madonna, Mary, wife of Joseph of the House of David, mother to Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ. So despite which specific Mary Maryland happened to be named for, it can be traced back to the blessed virgin. I'm sorry, I went to a Catholic wedding this weekend, and it's hard to get the fire and brimstone out of my ear (I burned through half a box of Q-Tips at the reception).

What part of Portland are you in? I'd love to sample your wife's pickles. I don't think I've ever had a spicy pickle; sounds disturbing honestly, although I love pickles and I love spicy food, so maybe it could work.

The name Mary goes back a lot farther back than that. Thousands of years further back. It's probably the oldest female name there is. In their own time, the names Jesus (Yeshua) and Mary (Maryam) were THE most common names in Judea. Jesus' actual name, Yeshua bar Yusef, was literally the English equivalent of John Smith. And his mother was Mary Smith.
Sorry about the Catholic wedding though. I have Catholic relatives, so I know those ridiculous endless marathons are the worst.


Originally posted by: Born2bwire
This whole line of posting has so much potential.
Heh. Sorry, but I chose to play it deadpan straight. Dean being the better comedian that Lewis IMO.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
I live in SW not far from Multnomah Village. She controls the pickle supply though.
Is she a pickle nazi? If not, tell her (or to let you) sell 'em in FS/FT. I love pickles :yum;
 
Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: Vic
I live in SW not far from Multnomah Village. She controls the pickle supply though.
Is she a pickle nazi? If not, tell her (or to let you) sell 'em in FS/FT. I love pickles :yum;

He said she controls the supply...pickles don't grow on trees ya know...
 
Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: TehMac
They're not religious they're just fucking insane. 50 years ago they would have been locked up in the paddy wagon. But because the left wing nutters think we live in Germany in 1940, that's not going to happen.

You're fucking retarded. First of all, religious zealotry IS insanity. Secondly, they get away with this shit because they're not hurting anyone. They're stupid assholes, that's for sure, but they're just trying to get a rise out of people by using their freedom of speech to push buttons. If we were not allowed to be completely douche-asses without hurting people, you would be locked up too, prick.

Go back to your cave and stab some more of your liberal voodoo dolls, you big baby.

They are causing undue mental anguish on people who are already very emotionally taxed. This qualifies as hurting people, IMO.
 
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