Werewolf Game #8675309 - BAD WINS!...and I do too.

[Dr. Zaus]

Cerpin Tax is playing good too hard.

 

[PenguinPower]

Just a reminder...12 hours to go in Day 4 and all who fail to vote will be killed by the rabid jujufish.

 

[rasczak]

DixyCrat is playing good too hard

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

DixyCrat is playing good too hard

Rasczak. You've been in the voting a lot, but never got enough votes to hang.

Maybe tonight's your night.

 

[JujuFish]

Awww, look at that, it's a circle of love.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Rasczak. You've been in the voting a lot, but never got enough votes to hang.

Maybe tonight's your night.

Rasczak since I'm known good.

 

[Krazy4Real]

I guess Rasczak if Dixy really is good. What if Alive was the fool though?

 

[rasczak]

I guess Rasczak if Dixy really is good. What if Alive was the fool though?

exactly.alive himself said he was the fool.

 

[Krazy4Real]

exactly.alive himself said he was the fool.

Where did he say this?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

exactly.alive himself said he was the fool.

I know he played at this, but i'm not sure he was being serious so much as trying to save himself after finding he was the real seer.

here's my math:

A) He is the fool and (50% chance)
A1) was given wrong information (25%)
A2) was given right infromation (25%)
B) He is the seer and was given right information (50% chance)

75% chance he is right 25% chance he is wrong.

Since I know he was right; I would say there's about a 2/3rds chance he was the real seer.

 

[PenguinPower]

4 hours remain...looks like the jujufish is going to eat well tonight.

 

[JujuFish]

I know he played at this, but i'm not sure he was being serious so much as trying to save himself after finding he was the real seer.

here's my math:

A) He is the fool and (50% chance)
A1) was given wrong information (25%)
A2) was given right infromation (25%)
B) He is the seer and was given right information (50% chance)

75% chance he is right 25% chance he is wrong.

Since I know he was right; I would say there's about a 2/3rds chance he was the real seer.

For a while now, I've thought either you or Cerpin were baddies (or perhaps both). Both of you advocated the seer "seeing" the same person multiple times to see if they get the same information after Penguin pointed out that the information is only randomly determined the first time, and each subsequent "sight" would yield the same result as the first.

Because of this, and since it would help verify whether or not you're a good guy (and if you aren't, prove ALIVE the fool), and since you claim to only be a villager anyway (the least harmful to the village should you be telling the truth), I vote DixyCrat.

 

[Mixolydian]

Please update me: Who's still alive and who's been killed off?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

DixyCrat
Krazy4Real
Mixolydian
JujuFish
drum
HamburgerBoy
rasczak
Cerpin Taxt

3 villagers, 1 seer/fool, 2 werewolves, 1 sorceress, 1 cultist.

I'm having a hard time following this game tbh, especially where the seer/fool business is concerned.

 

[drum]

So who is our best bet at this point? I'm trying to catch up

 

[PenguinPower]

DixyCrat
Krazy4Real
Mixolydian
JujuFish
drum
HamburgerBoy
rasczak
Cerpin Taxt

3 villagers, 1 seer/fool, 2 werewolves, 1 sorceress, 1 cultist.

I'm having a hard time following this game tbh, especially where the seer/fool business is concerned.

Well, if you paid attention and participated prior to Day 3, that might not be the case. All the cultists are dead, btw. There's also a list in the third post of who is alive and who is dead.

 

[JujuFish]

So who is our best bet at this point? I'm trying to catch up

As argued above, I would say either Cerpin or Dixy for advocating wasting the seer's time. I voted Dixy, but I could move to Cerpin if the village believes he's a better choice since Dixy was made known as a villager by ALIVE. Of course, if we go Dixy and he's a bad guy, then the remaining seer will know he's the real deal.

 

[MonKENy]

Well, if you paid attention and participated prior to Day 3, that might not be the case. All the cultists are dead, btw. There's also a list in the third post of who is alive and who is dead.

I though PP was for penguinPower but maybe its for pissy pants

Be nice. The only thing that should bite is the wolves

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

For a while now, I've thought either you or Cerpin were baddies (or perhaps both). Both of you advocated the seer "seeing" the same person multiple times to see if they get the same information after Penguin pointed out that the information is only randomly determined the first time, and each subsequent "sight" would yield the same result as the first.

Because of this, and since it would help verify whether or not you're a good guy (and if you aren't, prove ALIVE the fool), and since you claim to only be a villager anyway (the least harmful to the village should you be telling the truth), I vote DixyCrat.

I understand your reasoning, and I can't fault your logic, but I can simply say I did not see where penguin said the seers would get consistent results from repeated investigations. It was my understanding that the fool's results were just random. It makes sense that the fool should not be able to discover his own role so easily, but I did not understand that to be the case.

Now you can either believe that, or not, but after how badly I botched my role as the cultist in the last game it shouldn't be a stretch to believe I could miss a subtlety like this one with the fool.

Let me be clear. I am a villager. It is unwise to lynch me, but do as you see fit. If my mistake about the fool's rules implicates me such that I get lynched, that's on me.

 

[PenguinPower]

Extending to 9:00pm CST because there is actual debate.

 

[PenguinPower]

I though PP was for penguinPower but maybe its for pissy pants

Be nice. The only thing that should bite is the wolves

Well, I don't keep track of, and post everything, in post #1 and #3 for shits and giggles.

 

[PenguinPower]

FYI to Mixy, Hamburger and drum...no vote by 9:00pm CST = death.

 

[Mixolydian]

FYI to Mixy, Hamburger and drum...no vote by 9:00pm CST = death.

gah!! rasczak

 

[JujuFish]

I understand your reasoning, and I can't fault your logic, but I can simply say I did not see where penguin said the seers would get consistent results from repeated investigations. It was my understanding that the fool's results were just random. It makes sense that the fool should not be able to discover his own role so easily, but I did not understand that to be the case.

Now you can either believe that, or not, but after how badly I botched my role as the cultist in the last game it shouldn't be a stretch to believe I could miss a subtlety like this one with the fool.

Let me be clear. I am a villager. It is unwise to lynch me, but do as you see fit. If my mistake about the fool's rules implicates me such that I get lynched, that's on me.

It's unwise to lynch any team good at this point. If team good loses another member right now, then it's 3v4 (assuming no one dies for not voting). Wolves then have an 80% chance of eating team good (2 wolves left who know each over vs. 5 remaining). Tomorrow it's 3v3, team bad comes out, forces a tie, eat at night, team bad wins.

That's why I couldn't wait any longer to make my observations known. We need to get a bad guy, and the only evidence I've seen to indicate someone might be team bad (aside from Possessed changing votes last minute which resulted in a blow to team good, and he's gone now) is your and Dixy's push for seers repeating their target.

Best case scenario is if Dixy's team bad, we lynch him, prove ALIVE the fool, the remaining seer (now proven to be the real seer) comes out tomorrow and confirms what he has found out, thereby creating a solid pact of team good or a solid group of team bad to lynch, and the village's chances to win skyrocket.

If anyone has any other suggestions, I'm open. Tonight's vote may very well be the most important of the game.

 

[PenguinPower]

I'm liking the debate present (finally), and I'm logging off for the night, so we'll extend the day until tomorrow at 9:00am CST. Continue your discussions.