I don't like the original zones getting big changes, unless they're to small parts of the zones.
The Everquest 'redesign' of zones I did not like, like Freeport and the nearby dark elf forest.
The Everquest 'redesign' of zones I did not like, like Freeport and the nearby dark elf forest.
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Please keep the thread on topic and leave the bitching about subscription numbers, China, etc. out of it otherwise this will be locked.
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KeithTalent
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I canceled my account about 2 weeks ago. Nothing I read about this next expansion made me feel like I was missing something or feel the need to re-sub. Call me unenthusiastic...
I've been working on a new mage on a "Full" server, and leveled up to 33 now. For the most part I see maybe 1 - 2 other people in these zones, per hour. If they do something cool to bring people back I say go for it!
they're basically stream-lining leveling to be more like it is in BC/WotLK (natural, consecutive zone progression instead of having to jump all over the world at any given level to find quests of your level). they're also narrowing down the level range scope of certain zones (like STV, which currently has like a 15+ level range)... I saw a screenshot of zone progression earlier today, but I'll be damned if I can find it now.
Yes and Yes!!! played from bata for 4 years sold my account and will start a new toon when the xpack comes out.
If we are to accept every bit of your post as an absolute good thing- why the staggering fall off for new end game content? When TBC hit we had Kara, Gruul, Mag, SSC, TK and MH for new content, something like 30 bosses(rough guesstimate). When Wrath hit we had 2(3 if you are generous and count Arch). Now you can state that reduced difficulty is to be expected- that wouldn't be as big of an issue if there were something else to do, there isn't. Banging your head against new bosses is more interesting to almost anyone that cake walking through the same content for months on end.
How so precisely? Did you ever pay attention in the WoW thread? My guild never downed Muru(most of us stupped playing between 3.0 and Wrath- the nerfs made the content a joke), we were not one of the top guilds in the world by any stretch, not even on our server for that matter. The game was never about loot for me, ever. I liked content, and seeing new content. Seeing all of the raid content in Wrath takes less then 10 hours with a remotely decent group(not uber by any means). BTW- does Blizzard's PR boss let you speak to people like that? It reflects badly on their staffing choices when you are incapable of entering discourse without results to lewd personal insults.
I hope you aren't projecting, although it would explain a lot if you were. I don't need a MMO in any way shape or form, I'm not playing one now. The reason I liked them is because I got a ton of content for my money. That is very far removed from the case with WoW right now. Every bit of the Wrath content wasn't worth the price of the expansion pack, forgetting all about the monthly fee.
If you want to make a MMO easy, you better have content to keep people entertained. Right now, WoW has neither the end game challenge or content to fill that criteria(TBC had far more of both). You could give up one and still have a decent product, but not both. Release a new raid every other week and have them all cake walks? Honestly, I could deal with that.
This all comes back full circle into the new expansion pack. Blizzard is yet again significantly reducing the difficulty and they seem to be planning to offer almost no new content at all(there is a few relatively speaking miniscule things). Cataclysm is going to have what, two new areas and a whole bunch of rehashed content, that combined with the big nerfs in gameplay is going to make a product that would have trouble warranting a purchase as a $50 single player game, as a MMO it falls absurdly short to be as kind as possible.
Aikouka
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From my understanding of the announcements, is that the old world would be changed, some old areas completely redesigned and others destroyed. These "old world" areas would still be used for leveling 1-60, even if they look quite different. They are just changing the flow of 1-60 leveling in the old world to be smoother and more like BC and WotLK leveling.
lupi
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They're redoing the levels/quest of about every zone (much more changes here than the couple that are getting major graphic changes).
One of the most telling shots was a screen that should you could start a new char at undercity and level to 50 without going more than 2 zones away. While seeing the world is nice, it's not going to be nearly the "requirement" while leveling up like it used to.
coloumb
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Cool - looks like they lowered level requirements for a few zones - I found myself having to jump over to the other continent to keep myself busy with quests [hopefully they'll resolve this so you can just quest on one continent].
Hopefully they will revamp some of the low level quests so you don't spend eons just running all over the continents - ie: escort quests where the mob walks too damn slow [and takes you 15 minutes - which you can screw up due to boredom or your quest mob is killed], or quests which require you to walk [run] from Auberdine to Astranaar to Splintertree Post then back to Auberdine then back to another town in Stonetalon Mountains. Or the Azshara quests of swimming from the northern part of the zone to the southern part of the zone. Hell - give you the option to rent a damn mount for a few silver...
I'll have to say that I'm very excited and looking forward to what's coming. The revamp of the zones to make the quest flow more logical is very welcome. Hopefully it will seem like a "new" game for those of us (and I'm sure there will be lots) that will be starting a Worgen or Goblin. That way it won't be such of a drag. I have toons leveled 80, 72, 63, 62(x2), 61, 60, 50, and a 33 (this one has been sitting for a while. It's hard to go back to the same old quests again. Looking forward to starting it back up again after the xpac!). Having new races instead of a new class will be a better fit in the "new" world.
To bad they had to hotfix the tameable Worgen in Grizzly Hills. That would have been awesome to be a Worgen Hunter with a Worgen pet!
Can't wait to fly in Azeroth!!
To bad they had to hotfix the tameable Worgen in Grizzly Hills. That would have been awesome to be a Worgen Hunter with a Worgen pet!
Can't wait to fly in Azeroth!!
My WoW nerd of a roommate who attended Blizzcon is pretty excited. I figure once Starcraft 2 and Cataclysm comes out, I won't ever see him again because he'll be holed up in his room even more than he is now.
Anubis
No Lifer
not really 2 zones from UC is tristfall and Highlands or EPL and WPL
so you have like 1-30 and 50-60
basicially all starting zones are like this
Holy crap, thousand needles and plaguelands. It's great that they're taking everything they've learned back to the oldest content. Speaking strictly in terms of environment (not quest design or travel) I think OG WoW is the best they have done yet, and BC was a major step down. WoTLK is alright, certainly a big step up from BC in graphics and design, but I can only take so much snow and boreal forest. I friggin hate snow IRL, I felt like I was getting S.A.D. while leveling up.
OutHouse
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i remember one of the speakers saying something about toon customizations, did anybody catch this? It would be nice if blizz allowed us to change the color of our gear and allow us to change the body shape of our toons. except for hair and skin tone all toons from a race look the same.
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