Were older Lexus' "old" people cars?

MikeMike

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so Buick has the "old person" stereo type, were older lexuses (not the new IS's) old people cars? you have great vehicles such as
Es 300
GS 300
GS 430
IS 300
LS 430

purely none inspired, floaty riding, soft sprung (yea, sorta similar) luxury cars.

did these appeal to the elderly crowds more than the younger crowds? like older Buicks?
 

JLGatsby

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The GS? The ES? GS for 30 somethings, the ES for 40 and 50 somethings.

Only the LS was an "older" person car.
 

Ktulu

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
The GS? The ES? GS for 30 somethings, the ES for 40 and 50 somethings.

Only the LS was an "older" person car.

ah damn it, there goes another car thread!
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: psteng19
They still are :D:laugh:

the current IS is NOT an old persons car, and in the same respect Buicks are no longer an old mans car (Lucerne)
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
The GS? The ES? GS for 30 somethings, the ES for 40 and 50 somethings.

Only the LS was an "older" person car.

ah damn it, there goes another car thread!

You guys set'em up, I'll knock'em down.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
so Buick has the "old person" stereo type, were older lexuses (not the new IS's) old people cars? you have great vehicles such as
Es 300
GS 300
GS 430
IS 300
LS 430

purely none inspired, floaty riding, soft sprung (yea, sorta similar) luxury cars.

did these appeal to the elderly crowds more than the younger crowds? like older Buicks?

I'd say that some of them do have that stigma. They are nice cars though, much nicer than any Buick I've ever ridden in or driven.

I like the older GS and SC coupe though. Nice classy cars with top notch interiors/drivetrains and stereos.
 

Ktulu

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
The GS? The ES? GS for 30 somethings, the ES for 40 and 50 somethings.

Only the LS was an "older" person car.

ah damn it, there goes another car thread!

You guys set'em up, I'll knock'em down.

hehe
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
the current IS is NOT an old persons car, and in the same respect Buicks are no longer an old mans car (Lucerne)

Oh you are very wrong, even the average driver of this new "Lucerne" is still 60+.
 

Ktulu

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
the current IS is NOT an old persons car, and in the same respect Buicks are no longer an old mans car (Lucerne)

Oh you are very wrong, even the average driver of this new "Lucerne" is still 60+.

I rather fancy the Lucerne. Now give me a new GNX :evil:
 

MikeMike

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
the current IS is NOT an old persons car, and in the same respect Buicks are no longer an old mans car (Lucerne)

Oh you are very wrong, even the average driver of this new "Lucerne" is still 60+.

provide proof. since you made me back up my statements, provide proof.
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
provide proof. since you made me back up my statements, provide proof.

The car is most likely too new and demographic studies have not been released yet.

If you were to ask a Buick salesman who is buying the Lucerne, they would tell you that "younger" people are buying them, but the overall average age is still probably 60+.

They are getting younger buyers, but those younger buyers are still above average in age.
 

RCN

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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
the current IS is NOT an old persons car, and in the same respect Buicks are no longer an old mans car (Lucerne)

Oh you are very wrong, even the average driver of this new "Lucerne" is still 60+.

provide proof. since you made me back up my statements, provide proof.
Well it was designed to attract the 50+ crowd.

 

Howard

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
The GS? The ES? GS for 30 somethings, the ES for 40 and 50 somethings.

Only the LS was an "older" person car.
I don't know about you but I'd love to drive an LS.
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: Howard
I don't know about you but I'd love to drive an LS.

The LS is typically an older persons car, but it's still a nice car, I know, I used to own one (a 1994).
 

SportSC4

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Yeah, the older Lexuses had a very soft ride to them (well, they did have an air suspension model). For example, the LS400 was designed to compete with the likes of the S class and 7 series which also had somewhat soft rides and the only people that really could afford those were ... older. Just makes sense. I can tell you that the seats in the older LS400 had much much more support than the Buicks of those years (the Buicks were incredibly comfortable, almost like sitting on a couch while driving, but different strokes for different folks). In those years, I would say that Buick had the oldest demographic, followed by Cadillac, then maybe Oldsmobile, Lexus, MB, BMW (I know i'm not adding a few other car makes, but eh).

Although, the industry started to move away from that. In 2000 the IS300 was introduced (suspension was still more luxury oriented but very different from previous lexus). In 2001, the LS430 was introduced and the steering is much more tighter on it and suspension is definitely more firm. Then of course the newer SC (still too floaty for my taste though), GS, and IS all have an improved feel over previous generations. I don't think any of the new Lexus since that time have that floater type suspension anymore. MB, BMW, Cadillac all have more firm suspensions, it's the way the industry is headed.
 

PHiuR

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yep...lexus when it first came out was defintely an older person car.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: RCN
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
the current IS is NOT an old persons car, and in the same respect Buicks are no longer an old mans car (Lucerne)

Oh you are very wrong, even the average driver of this new "Lucerne" is still 60+.

provide proof. since you made me back up my statements, provide proof.
Well it was designed to attract the 50+ crowd.


first google result
http://cars.about.com/od/2001/fr/lacrosse_tst.htm average buick owners age is almost 70:p no surprise.

lexus owners are older because older people tend to have more money;) but not as old as buick...buy a buick u might as well admit ur on ur last legs
 

RCN

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Well it was designed to attract the 50+ crowd.


first google result
http://cars.about.com/od/2001/fr/lacrosse_tst.htm average buick owners age is almost 70:p no surprise.

lexus owners are older because older people tend to have more money;) but not as old as buick...buy a buick u might as well admit ur on ur last legs[/quote]

Yeah I was speaking specifically of the Lucerne though. IIRC the target demograghic was the 50-60 crowd to bring down the average age a bit. 50-60 would be perfect as they buy the most cars. No need to shoot for the 20 year olds.