We're being invaded!

tnilC

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Lets say for a moment, that an invasion by a foreign country(China, Russia etc...)is a legitmate threat, similar to the fictional one depicted in the movie Red Dawn. A massive aerial deployment of troops accompanied by beach landings upwards of 1,000,000 along either the eastern or western seaboard.

Needless to say, there would be a large civilian resistance in many areas given the saturation of firearms in this country. The fighting no doubt, would be in Urban and Sub-Urban environs with small to medium populations. The Military would be, at least initially, fighting to control large population centers such as LA and/or San Francisco.

Yourself and other civilians, are forced to fight for your lives against well equipped foreign troops with artillary and urban combat vehicles. Obviously, the odds are stacked against you, but being freedom fighters who wouldnt let harm befall your family. You are forced to make due with what you could easily find in a local gun store. What type of weaponry would you outfit your band of freedom fighting militia with?

An absurd scenario, no doubt, but just for the sake of argument excuse the logical fallicies. Also feel free to alter the scenario however you wish, and when choosing what weaponry you outfit, post pics when able.

 

BigJ

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They'd have a chance at taking the Northeast and the entire west coast. But they're not getting past the lower East coast, or any farther inland than a line extending vertically from Texas.
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: BigJ
They'd have a chance at taking the Northeast and the entire west coast. But they're not getting past the lower East coast, or any farther inland than a line extending vertically from Texas.

red states FTW!
 

darkxshade

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So you're saying the US did not pick up any of this miles offshore with satellite photos and upon invasion all the troops are deployed to control population rather than defending borders?

Just to humor you... civilians would be enough to take out 1,000,000 invaders spread across the borders. I'll pick the western coast as it is more likely than the eastern. In California alone there is a population of about 35,000,000. That's 35:1 not to mention how many of them would be armed. The civilians being a native of the state of Cali would undoubtedly know their way around Cali better than anyone else. So without a more elaborate battle plan on your part, that invasion has failed before it begun.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: darkxshade
So you're saying the US did not pick up any of this miles offshore with satellite photos and upon invasion all the troops are deployed to control population rather than defending borders?

Just to humor you... civilians would be enough to take out 1,000,000 invaders spread across the borders. I'll pick the western coast as it is more likely than the eastern. In California alone there is a population of about 35,000,000. That's 35:1 not to mention how many of them would be armed. The civilians being a native of the state of Cali would undoubtedly know their way around Cali better than anyone else. So without a more elaborate battle plan on your part, that invasion has failed before it begun.

Read again. Each beach landing is 1,000,000 people.

Also, most people in California would be too busy:
-getting high
-shopping
-joing the other side vs. the Evil Bush Administration
-pressuring for a peaceful resistance
-fleeing to a state where they'll actually be safe
 

MasterAndCommander

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Chuck Norris, Mr. T, Vin Diesel and I would be sufficient to drive off any invader - shoud they be so foolish to do so.
 

JonnyStarks

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Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Chuck Norris and I would be sufficient to drive off any invader

Yeah I would go to the gun store and stock up on roundhouse kicks to the head
 

darkxshade

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: darkxshade
So you're saying the US did not pick up any of this miles offshore with satellite photos and upon invasion all the troops are deployed to control population rather than defending borders?

Just to humor you... civilians would be enough to take out 1,000,000 invaders spread across the borders. I'll pick the western coast as it is more likely than the eastern. In California alone there is a population of about 35,000,000. That's 35:1 not to mention how many of them would be armed. The civilians being a native of the state of Cali would undoubtedly know their way around Cali better than anyone else. So without a more elaborate battle plan on your part, that invasion has failed before it begun.

Read again. Each beach landing is 1,000,000 people.

Also, most people in California would be too busy:
-getting high
-shopping
-joing the other side vs. the Evil Bush Administration
-pressuring for a peaceful resistance
-fleeing to a state where they'll actually be safe


"A massive aerial deployment of troops accompanied by beach landings upwards of 1,000,000 along either the eastern or western seaboard."


where did it say each?
 

tnilC

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You people are such buzzkills. I acknowledged its an absurd scenario and would never happen. Undoubtedly 1,000,000 troops wouldnt even come close to victory, but those 1,000,000 wouldnt die instantly upon landing, some fighting would have to occur. If you must, alter the scenario however you see fit, so that your massive intellects can forgive the errors in logic.
 

J0hnny

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Realistically, I think the best land invasion force would come in from the south. You can start staging in Mexico. Our satellites, etc, probably aren't going to be scanning the area for military forces in the area, and even if they do, all military forces can be disguised and stored in large container trucks (thousands pass everyday through the border), with the exception of tanks but they won't be needed.

In the meanwhile, thousands of troops and equipment are loaded onto converted and disguised oil tankers from Venezuela and various Central and South American sea border countries who are not loyal to the US. Given the current state of affairs around the world, most countries would harbor anti-US forces without letting us know. Our intelligence forces are still weak as we speak.

When the time is right, the container trucks from Mexico will hit California. The oil tankers converted as troop carriers will hit the western gulf coast (Texas and encircle Cali). The reality is, a minimal amount of mechanized infantry is needed. The goal is to invade, take out central infrastructure on invaded cities (power plants, waterworks, and police stations, and militia garrisons). Given the recent events with Hurricanes, this has already shown the world that our weakness is powerloss. Any resupply of forces can be handled with the broken borders and with existing supply in the US.

The military would not have to worry as much about airstrikes because of the lack of mechanized forces. The invading forces would use the large SUVs, cars, etc within the existing populace. Since they are invading cities, it would be much more difficult for an airstrike from our forces. They can also cover their forces with the fleeing population as well.

Once California and sections of Texas taken, the goal is to open the entire Pacific border to Chinese forces and other non-US alliance forces to invade openly. SAM sites are set up all over captured cities as well.


Given that, I would have already set up an underground bunker.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: darkxshade
So you're saying the US did not pick up any of this miles offshore with satellite photos and upon invasion all the troops are deployed to control population rather than defending borders?

Just to humor you... civilians would be enough to take out 1,000,000 invaders spread across the borders. I'll pick the western coast as it is more likely than the eastern. In California alone there is a population of about 35,000,000. That's 35:1 not to mention how many of them would be armed. The civilians being a native of the state of Cali would undoubtedly know their way around Cali better than anyone else. So without a more elaborate battle plan on your part, that invasion has failed before it begun.

Read again. Each beach landing is 1,000,000 people.

Also, most people in California would be too busy:
-getting high
-shopping
-joing the other side vs. the Evil Bush Administration
-pressuring for a peaceful resistance
-fleeing to a state where they'll actually be safe


"A massive aerial deployment of troops accompanied by beach landings upwards of 1,000,000 along either the eastern or western seaboard."


where did it say each?

"By beach landings upwards of 1,000,000"

To me, that reads the multiple beach landings are going to be upward of a million each.
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: tnilC
You people are such buzzkills. I acknowledged its an absurd scenario and would never happen. Undoubtedly 1,000,000 troops wouldnt even come close to victory, but those 1,000,000 wouldnt die instantly upon landing, some fighting would have to occur. If you must, alter the scenario however you see fit, so that your massive intellects can just for a moment forgive the errors in logic.

with my WMD's, yes, they would pretty much die instantly. and as long as most of the invaders were in blue states, well, you know what they say about one stone
 

giantpinkbunnyhead

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I'd wait for them to come to me; then simply let them freeze to death in the Alaskan wild.

If they invade in the summer... I'll take my .44 and speed loaders and hold 'em off until the very bitter end!

But seriously... I doubt anyone would invade Alaska... not enough people here for any noticeable effect should we be wiped out. It would be a waste of resources on the part of the invaders, so I'll sit back and watch them wipe out California. We don't need CA. Or they can take Florida. Yeah, that's better. Keep CA and send them to FL!