...and will not magically change after Obama becomes Pres either. The fruits of his labor will take time to be realized. Of course, tons of people are just going to start blaming him for all sorts of problems and figures which have nothing to do with him at all.
Don't tell anybody but there's nothing in this world that I want and I can't even remember the last time I bought anything just for me. Oh yeah, I bought Spore and threw it away. I couldn't upload the patch, hehe. Bubye!
Oh my Beloved, wherever I look it appears to be Thou.
NOT TRUE. Most states require that workers are allowed time off to vote. You may not get paid though.
Thump553
Lifer
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It's an absolute disgrace that our voting system is intentionally made unwieldy and cumbersome and wasteful of voter's time. I see reports on TV of waits of up to eight hours for EARLY voting and dread what will happen tomorrow in the 16 states that don't have early voting, like mine.
Voting in the US should not use as it's model shopping under the old USSR system.
That said, I have no tolerance whatsoever for people who whine about the inconvenience and burden. Many of the preceeding generations of my family paid with blood to preserve our democracy, the least we can do is put up with a day's inconvenience.
We the people should, however, DEMAND that our politicians actually fix this system so it is both honest and user friendly, instead of seeking to protect the big two political parties' turf. 2000 was a wakeup call that has been derailed.
Voting in the US should not use as it's model shopping under the old USSR system.
That said, I have no tolerance whatsoever for people who whine about the inconvenience and burden. Many of the preceeding generations of my family paid with blood to preserve our democracy, the least we can do is put up with a day's inconvenience.
We the people should, however, DEMAND that our politicians actually fix this system so it is both honest and user friendly, instead of seeking to protect the big two political parties' turf. 2000 was a wakeup call that has been derailed.
Lemon law
Lifer
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I had the option to vote early. I instead will vote tomorrow. And because I live in a rural area, I have never seen long lines at the polls. But with the enthusiasm, I could get burned.
In terms of encouraging early voting, I have mixed feelings. I think it will help reduce poll congestion in urban areas and have some other benefits.
But I think we should wait for a while after this election before forming an opinion on the pro's and cons of encouraging massive early voting. I am presently more worried about the outcome of tomorrows election to think far into the future.
After all, there will be 76 days left of GWB.
In terms of encouraging early voting, I have mixed feelings. I think it will help reduce poll congestion in urban areas and have some other benefits.
But I think we should wait for a while after this election before forming an opinion on the pro's and cons of encouraging massive early voting. I am presently more worried about the outcome of tomorrows election to think far into the future.
After all, there will be 76 days left of GWB.
Not necessarily.
There were long lines here in Ohio in 2004. I live in a county that is traditionally red, voted red in 2004, and had unusually long lines in 2004.
I'll give him a year... That's a quarter of his term. I have a feeling he wouldn't be able to reverse it - but instead make it worse. Also, to make it a bit easier on Obama -- lets just go with the 7%-8% figure; I have a feeling there's going to be a lot of voters with "buyers remorse" who wouldn't have any jobs anymore... but who knows.
Dude, even McCain is claiming that the bulk of this problem will take 10 years to truly realize the solution. No one can change almost a decade of failed economic policy within one year.
Are you trying to say that you are going to do nothing but look at the unemployment numbers without analyzing in anyway why those numbers are the way that they are an immediately blame it on Obama? What sense does that make? How does that help us fix the problem?
sportage
Lifer
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I see there will be a push in congress to make early voting national law.
GOOD NEWS for us all!!!!
Because I see two issues coming on this election day.
One? states with-out early voting WILL SEE THE MESS FROM HELL!!!
With loooooooooooooooooooong lines.
Two? polls will be forced to stay open A LOT LONGER than planned.
As I understand it, if you are in line to vote and got in line before closing time,
then YOU GET TO VOTE until every one in line gets thru.
So if the polls close at 9pm, and the line is still 8 blocks long of voters that all got
there before 9pm, then the polling place MUST stay open.
If that happens, long lines at closing time, then I can already see a long late election night coming.
Not in close results, but in polls still open past closing time. Thus not reporting until hours after closing time. Long result delays from states.
After all those voters in line get thru.
Especially in the PENN state. Its going to be a looooooong night!!!!
?????
GOOD NEWS for us all!!!!
Because I see two issues coming on this election day.
One? states with-out early voting WILL SEE THE MESS FROM HELL!!!
With loooooooooooooooooooong lines.
Two? polls will be forced to stay open A LOT LONGER than planned.
As I understand it, if you are in line to vote and got in line before closing time,
then YOU GET TO VOTE until every one in line gets thru.
So if the polls close at 9pm, and the line is still 8 blocks long of voters that all got
there before 9pm, then the polling place MUST stay open.
If that happens, long lines at closing time, then I can already see a long late election night coming.
Not in close results, but in polls still open past closing time. Thus not reporting until hours after closing time. Long result delays from states.
After all those voters in line get thru.
Especially in the PENN state. Its going to be a looooooong night!!!!
?????
It would be kind of amusing if I woke up the next morning on Nov. 5th at 6am, checked the news, and found out that a results still are not completed because people are still waiting in lines. I don't think that will actually happen mind you, but the thought is funny. :laugh:
10 years!!!!! That's a long time. I feel the voting pop. will not give Obama anymore time than 1 year (not to mention 10) -- especially if they noticed that the jobless rate climbing ever so higher than it ever was during the "hated" Bush reign.
1 year after all is a quarter of Obama's term and he does have a liberal house. Thats four business quarters -- lets see how "sharing the wealth" affects the economy. Remember folks, the target is to be better than 7-8 % unemployment rate ;-)
so do most democrats, but long lines hurt dems since dems are more urban were the lines are generally longer
sandorski
No Lifer
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They were moving people through as quickly as they could. The place I'm speaking of is also not the only place people can go to vote early. There are multiple places they can go an from what I've been told they are all experiencing huge amounts of early voters.
Well around here we're at 10%+ under Bushes great policies. Sure it could get worse, but right now there's a lot of room for improvement.
The problem is that things need time to naturally change and progress too. The government can only do so much. They can pave the path and guide the country in a certain direction, but the markets and world econ will need time to adjust and react. I am talking the big picture here though. Not just one slice of the pie which is unemployment rates. Both McCain and Obama have been tossing the 10 year number around when it comes to the major bulk of their plans to really flourish and reach its peak of success.
I'm sorry you are impatient but that is just the reality of the situation. One can hope for quicker resolutions and they most certainly can happen, but it will not just be up to the the US government. SO MANY things influence the progression of such changes.
TallBill
Lifer
- Apr 29, 2001
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Don't expect to actually respond when he's wrong.
Or how about 6.1% and we've certainly been a lot worse.
Unemployment, 1948-2008
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