Went to the Jet's game yesterday(*Rant*)

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purbeast0

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Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Originally posted by: mugs
I don't know why I'd feel entitled to watch a game without interruptions just because I paid for a ticket. They do the same thing at hockey games, probably basketball games too. It hasn't ever bothered me when I'm at a game and they take a TV timeout, I just talk to my wife. Millions of people watching on TV vs tens of thousands watching in the stands... meh.

Well I'd agree if tickets didn't cost so much. I checked my stub and it's $75. I had said a hundred, so that was wrong. If you paid $75 to go see a music concert, wouldn't you be little pissed if they stopped for 5 to 6 minutes between songs and just stood there on the stage looking dumb? The whole well I'll just talk to me wife thing is fine but you didn't pay $75 to talk to your wife. You paid $75 to watch a game.
Ok maybe they make more money by selling advertising on tv, but I'd wager the amount they get from ticket sales, consessions, souvenirs, in stadium advertising and so forth is a fair chunk of change. Kind of a kick in the teeth to the real fans of your team if you ask me. If it weren't for the die hard fans that make football what it is and go out and freeze their butt off to see those games in person, the NFL would not exist.

if you are going to compare a conert to a sporting event, atleast compre it to a PPV sporting event, such as boxing, which has no commercial breaks at all and is non-stop.

if you are going to compare a concert to the NFL you have to compare one that is on regular broadcast TV, where yes, there is pauses while they show network commercials.

meltdown is right ... worst ... analogy ... EVER
 

jjones

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What I dislike more than TV timeouts, which I agree suck because they ruin the pace of the game, is the damn instant replay on every friggin play in the last two minutes of each half. I love NFL football but it's becoming more and more difficult to stay interested each year that goes by. Fortunately this year we've had some really awesome games.
 

theknight571

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
If you paid $75 to go see a music concert, wouldn't you be little pissed if they stopped for 5 to 6 minutes between songs and just stood there on the stage looking dumb?
worst analogy in the history of the internet.

Oh... I don't know... I thought it was funny at least.

I've been complaining about this for years... although not on ATOT.

Sure it's a PITA... but I do like to see the games on TV when "my" team is away... so I deal with it.

I do, however, think they should be able to shorten them up some... try to squeeze them in during natural stoppages in play etc.

BTW... Last time I was at a NHL game, I noticed that there were TV timeouts too... just not as long, or obvious.
 

Red Dawn

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Well consider this, at least during that timeout the Jets weren't getting their asses handed to them.
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: mugs
I don't know why I'd feel entitled to watch a game without interruptions just because I paid for a ticket. They do the same thing at hockey games, probably basketball games too. It hasn't ever bothered me when I'm at a game and they take a TV timeout, I just talk to my wife. Millions of people watching on TV vs tens of thousands watching in the stands... meh.

Well seeing as the point of advertising is to cover the costs/make money off of the people at home watching, that's probably why you should feel entitled, seeing as you paid money already. But if you're okay with paying and still being affected by the advertising then I guess that's cool too. Alex Rodriguez loves fans like you.
 

lupi

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At least you got to ewatch the cheerleaders. Those blonde siliconed beauties have only been on the Jets sideline for a couple of years. Believe they were the last team to have a squad.
 

GenHoth

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Originally posted by: lupi
At least you got to ewatch the cheerleaders. Those blonde siliconed beauties have only been on the Jets sideline for a couple of years. Believe they were the last team to have a squad.

Chicago still doesn't :(
 

BlackTigers

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Originally posted by: lupi
At least you got to ewatch the cheerleaders. Those blonde siliconed beauties have only been on the Jets sideline for a couple of years. Believe they were the last team to have a squad.

Browns are tit-less.

=/
 

Homerboy

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I hope to god you stuck around to the final whistle. Watching the recap of that game there was like 100 people left in the stands and it was CLOSE.
WTF kind of fans are you people (yes I know it was cold. Yes I know it was raining.... THATS FOOTBALL).
 

meltdown75

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
If you think the commercials are bad, just wait until you see the score next week.
there's a good chance you just jinxed your team. i know it sounds crazy but comments like that seem to have bite you in the ass later on :p

i know, it's the Jets vs. the Pats... but the Lions almost beat the Boys... anything can happen!

edit: never mind. this curse can't work against the Pats. they are too good.
 

shopbruin

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Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Originally posted by: mugs
I don't know why I'd feel entitled to watch a game without interruptions just because I paid for a ticket. They do the same thing at hockey games, probably basketball games too. It hasn't ever bothered me when I'm at a game and they take a TV timeout, I just talk to my wife. Millions of people watching on TV vs tens of thousands watching in the stands... meh.

Well I'd agree if tickets didn't cost so much. I checked my stub and it's $75. I had said a hundred, so that was wrong. If you paid $75 to go see a music concert, wouldn't you be little pissed if they stopped for 5 to 6 minutes between songs and just stood there on the stage looking dumb? The whole well I'll just talk to me wife thing is fine but you didn't pay $75 to talk to your wife. You paid $75 to watch a game.
Ok maybe they make more money by selling advertising on tv, but I'd wager the amount they get from ticket sales, consessions, souvenirs, in stadium advertising and so forth is a fair chunk of change. Kind of a kick in the teeth to the real fans of your team if you ask me. If it weren't for the die hard fans that make football what it is and go out and freeze their butt off to see those games in person, the NFL would not exist.

are you kidding me? do you object to halftime? how about the inbetween quarter breaks? the die hard fans have already been there since 5am, getting their tailgate ready. i'm sure they don't mind a 5 min break for commercials. gives you a chance to get up, get a drink, get food, use the restroom, whatever.

i don't even remember breaks seeming like a long time during college football games i used to go to. heck be effective during the breaks... tell your team to get it's behind in gear and plot their next play during the break or discuss something they picked up during the course of the game. i've been to hockey games, basketball games, baseball games, and the breaks are welcome, especially considering to be POLITE if you needed to get up, you should wait until a break and not come back to your seat until the next break.

you paid $75.00 to get into the stadium. you were entertained (to a point, since it was a jets game). but not everyone can do that, so they watch it on TV. or the stadium sells out, so you have to watch it on TV. since you don't pay to watch it on TV, they have to make their money somehow to broadcast it on TV.

be glad you weren't that fan at the niners game yesterday, he fell from one of the upper parts of the stadium to a lower level and died.

besides in concerts, there can be an interlude of a few mins where the performer is racing downstairs to change into their next outfit or they're resetting the stage for the next set. everything has breaks, some places you just don't notice.
 

jjones

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Originally posted by: GenHoth
Originally posted by: lupi
At least you got to ewatch the cheerleaders. Those blonde siliconed beauties have only been on the Jets sideline for a couple of years. Believe they were the last team to have a squad.

Chicago still doesn't :(
Yeah, too bad George kicked and shortly thereafter, Virginia saw to it that the Honey Bears were history.

 

natto fire

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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
If you paid $75 to go see a music concert, wouldn't you be little pissed if they stopped for 5 to 6 minutes between songs and just stood there on the stage looking dumb?
worst analogy in the history of the internet.

No wai! I mean there is obviously more money to be had by broadcasting concerts. :p

Methinks OP needs a lesson in capitalism, and possibly the power of numbers as well. How much do you think those tickets would cost if companies were not dropping millions of dollars into broadcasting those advertisements, I mean, if you think $75 is bad? I know ATOT is the place to read extremely weak rants, but this one takes the cake IMO.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: freesia39
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Originally posted by: mugs
I don't know why I'd feel entitled to watch a game without interruptions just because I paid for a ticket. They do the same thing at hockey games, probably basketball games too. It hasn't ever bothered me when I'm at a game and they take a TV timeout, I just talk to my wife. Millions of people watching on TV vs tens of thousands watching in the stands... meh.

Well I'd agree if tickets didn't cost so much. I checked my stub and it's $75. I had said a hundred, so that was wrong. If you paid $75 to go see a music concert, wouldn't you be little pissed if they stopped for 5 to 6 minutes between songs and just stood there on the stage looking dumb? The whole well I'll just talk to me wife thing is fine but you didn't pay $75 to talk to your wife. You paid $75 to watch a game.
Ok maybe they make more money by selling advertising on tv, but I'd wager the amount they get from ticket sales, consessions, souvenirs, in stadium advertising and so forth is a fair chunk of change. Kind of a kick in the teeth to the real fans of your team if you ask me. If it weren't for the die hard fans that make football what it is and go out and freeze their butt off to see those games in person, the NFL would not exist.

are you kidding me? do you object to halftime? how about the inbetween quarter breaks? the die hard fans have already been there since 5am, getting their tailgate ready. i'm sure they don't mind a 5 min break for commercials. gives you a chance to get up, get a drink, get food, use the restroom, whatever.

i don't even remember breaks seeming like a long time during college football games i used to go to. heck be effective during the breaks... tell your team to get it's behind in gear and plot their next play during the break or discuss something they picked up during the course of the game. i've been to hockey games, basketball games, baseball games, and the breaks are welcome, especially considering to be POLITE if you needed to get up, you should wait until a break and not come back to your seat until the next break.

you paid $75.00 to get into the stadium. you were entertained (to a point, since it was a jets game). but not everyone can do that, so they watch it on TV. or the stadium sells out, so you have to watch it on TV. since you don't pay to watch it on TV, they have to make their money somehow to broadcast it on TV.

be glad you weren't that fan at the niners game yesterday, he fell from one of the upper parts of the stadium to a lower level and died.

besides in concerts, there can be an interlude of a few mins where the performer is racing downstairs to change into their next outfit or they're resetting the stage for the next set. everything has breaks, some places you just don't notice.

IMO the only time the game should stop is for Time outs 1/4 breaks and 1/2 time, the 2 min warning is alright as well, the rest of the shit can go, and i couldent care less about the stupid cheerleaders

id rather watch a team set up after a TD or punt that see some moronic comercial about something ill never buy for the hundredth time
 

meltdown75

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my favourite spectator sport to watch is OHL hockey. there are no tv timeouts but going to the NHL games at the Joe isn't bad with the tv timeouts because usually there is something on the jumbotron to distract you or scores of other games posted around the arena.

of course, being at the Joe in Detroit... you see a lot of hotties. there are always super hot chicks with meh looking dudes in D-town. it's weird.
 

AMCRambler

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Bah. You're all hollering about the cheerleaders. They were wearing winter coats and long pants, lol. I can see why the Jets never had them in the past.

And arguing the advertising covers the costs of televising the broadcast? Give me a break. The cost of producing and televising a football game pales in comparison to what CBS and NFL rake in. Not to mention those games you need to have the Sunday ticket packages to watch because they aren't carried by the regular networks. You pay extra to watch your team on tv as well. I'm betting there's commercials on there too otherwise there's 5 minutes of standing around for the local affiliates covering the away game that they could be selling for commercial air time.

I'm trying to point out how all you diehard fans with season tickets and every piece of team merchandise are getting bent over at every chance the franchises and the NFL get. I guess you don't think so. All I'm saying is if it were me I'd be fed up at being squeezed for every dollar I had. Maybe the analogy to a music concert is not the best but I think it's still valid. So Aerosmith at Jones Beach and I wasn't ever sitting there watching Steven Tyler's groupies dance on stage while we waited for a commercial to end. The dude played a two hour set straight through and the concert was over.
What about baseball games? Sure they have natural breaks to the game after every half inning. But I've never seen ball players standing on the field waiting for the commercial break to be over. They start playing when they're ready. If the network isn't back from commercial then the folks at home miss a few pitches. I guess hockey does it too. I never been to a pro hockey game so I can't speak to that. It'd sure piss me off if I had gone to one though. You all feel like it's such a privilege to be there when the NFL and your team could care less about you. All they want is your money. They don't return the love.

And that's all I have to say about that. </Forrest>

Edit: Anubis gets it at least
 

Shlong

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Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Bah. You're all hollering about the cheerleaders. They were wearing winter coats and long pants, lol. I can see why the Jets never had them in the past.

And arguing the advertising covers the costs of televising the broadcast? Give me a break. The cost of producing and televising a football game pales in comparison to what CBS and NFL rake in. Not to mention those games you need to have the Sunday ticket packages to watch because they aren't carried by the regular networks. You pay extra to watch your team on tv as well. I'm betting there's commercials on there too otherwise there's 5 minutes of standing around for the local affiliates covering the away game that they could be selling for commercial air time.

I'm trying to point out how all you diehard fans with season tickets and every piece of team merchandise are getting bent over at every chance the franchises and the NFL get. I guess you don't think so. All I'm saying is if it were me I'd be fed up at being squeezed for every dollar I had. Maybe the analogy to a music concert is not the best but I think it's still valid. So Aerosmith at Jones Beach and I wasn't ever sitting there watching Steven Tyler's groupies dance on stage while we waited for a commercial to end. The dude played a two hour set straight through and the concert was over.
What about baseball games? Sure they have natural breaks to the game after every half inning. But I've never seen ball players standing on the field waiting for the commercial break to be over. They start playing when they're ready. If the network isn't back from commercial then the folks at home miss a few pitches. I guess hockey does it too. I never been to a pro hockey game so I can't speak to that. It'd sure piss me off if I had gone to one though. You all feel like it's such a privilege to be there when the NFL and your team could care less about you. All they want is your money. They don't return the love.

And that's all I have to say about that. </Forrest>

The NFL is making billions, the networks on the other hand are having financial losses. "Currently, the NFL's TV broadcasters have suffered annual financial losses because advertising revenue is unable to meet the cost incurred by the purchase of broadcast rights." CBS Pays 712.5 million per year for the NFC, CBS pays 622.5 million per year for the AFC, ESPN pays 1.1 billion per year year for Monday Night Football, NBC pays $650 million per year for Sunday Night Football, and DirecTV pays 700 million per year for NFL Sunday Ticket. I think the only one making money is DirecTV. But yeah the NFL is big business (probably the biggest league in the world in terms of revenue) and if not for the commercial breaks, the TV Networks would lose even more money. That's the way the business model is setup and it works well for the NFL & it's owners.