That happened to a guy I went to college with. He was applying for a position with the State Dept after having done his co-op with them. One of the questions in his screening was "How often do you drink?". He told them "1 or 2 beers a day, then I'll usually get pretty drunk on either Friday or Saturday night." He found out from some contacts he had that that was the reason he didn't get the job. He was crushed about it.
LMAO at BOTH of them....
Are you even listening to yourself? Someone who does drugs and drinks every night and gets wasted every weekend... would you even hire yourself?
You'd be surprised how many tokers are around, people who are multitudes more successful than you. Not everyone who likes to toke one up on occasion is that kid on Dazed and Confused.
Originally posted by: apac
Yup, one of the smartest people at my high school was a pot head, but only on the weekends.
The thing about my friend is that when he wasn't at school he didn't drink much. He just didn't think about it. Yeah, it was a mistake to phrase it how he did and he knows it.
So faced with two nearly identical candidates, do you hire the one who admitted to using illegal drugs or the one the said he never did? Any interviewer is going to play the percentages. I can't imagine why you'd think admitting it would help in any way. If you want to show you're not a pansy tell them about the bear wrestling you did a few years ago.
LOL, that response only lets me to believe how NOT smart and successful you are.
The comment is not that if you do drinks/drugs, u wont be successful.... but the fact that if you tell that to the employer, he is not going to employ you over someone with same skills and doesnt admit to drinking EVERYday and doing drugs.
Next time u go for an interview be sure to mention it, even if u dont do it, so that he will think of ur friend who has done drugs and became successful and employ u based on it.
I agree, but for jobs requiring a security clearance it's always best to be up front, especially about alcohol/drug use. The majority of clearances are denied for people lying about items which would not have disqualified them. Honesty is a big factor.
LOL!
I'll never forget the time I was applying for a job at a transportation company. I was working there as a temp, they loved me and wanted to hire me. All I had to do was go through the automated phone screening (press numbers in response to questions).
Let's just say that I thought honesty was the best policy. I'll NEVER do that again. The VERY next day I came into work and they said "sorry, gotta let you go...the DOT doesn't mess around with that stuff. And WTF were you thinking???!!!! Just say you never have, you dummy!"
Learned my lesson.
Employment Drug Policy for FBI
The FBI is firmly committed to a drug-free society and work place. Therefore, the unlawful use of drugs by FBI employees is not tolerated. Furthermore, applicants for employment with the FBI who currently use illegal drugs will be found unsuitable for employment. The FBI does not condone any prior unlawful drug use by applicants. We realize, however, some otherwise qualified applicants may have used drugs at some point in their pasts. The following policy sets forth the criteria for determining whether any prior drug use makes an applicant unsuitable for employment, balancing the needs of the FBI to maintain a drug-free workplace and the public integrity necessary to accomplish the FBI?s intelligence and law enforcement missions. Applicants who do not meet the listed criteria should not apply for any FBI position.
Criteria
Under the FBI's current Employment Drug Policy, an applicant will be found unsuitable for employment if they:
Have used any illegal drug (including anabolic steroids after February 27, 1991), other than marijuana, within the past ten years, or engaged in more than minimal experimentation in their lifetime. In making the determination about an applicant?s suitability for FBI employment, all relevant facts, including the frequency of use, will be evaluated.
Have used marijuana/cannabis within the past three years, or have extensively used marijuana/cannabis or over a substantial period of time. In making the determination about an applicant?s suitability for FBI employment, all relevant facts, including the recency and frequency of use, will be evaluated.
You can easily determine whether you meet the FBI's illegal drug policy by answering the following questions:
Have you used marijuana at all within the last three years?
Have you used any other illegal drug (including anabolic steroids after February 27, 1991) at all in the past 10 years?
Have you ever sold any illegal drug for profit?
Have you ever used an illegal drug (no matter how many times or how long ago) while in a law enforcement or prosecutorial position, or in a position which carries with it a high level of responsibility or public trust?
If you answered Yes to any of these questions, you are not eligible for employment with the FBI.
The FBI is firmly committed to a drug-free society and work place. Therefore, the unlawful use of drugs by FBI employees is not tolerated. Furthermore, applicants for employment with the FBI who currently use illegal drugs will be found unsuitable for employment. The FBI does not condone any prior unlawful drug use by applicants. We realize, however, some otherwise qualified applicants may have used drugs at some point in their pasts. The following policy sets forth the criteria for determining whether any prior drug use makes an applicant unsuitable for employment, balancing the needs of the FBI to maintain a drug-free workplace and the public integrity necessary to accomplish the FBI?s intelligence and law enforcement missions. Applicants who do not meet the listed criteria should not apply for any FBI position.
Criteria
Under the FBI's current Employment Drug Policy, an applicant will be found unsuitable for employment if they:
Have used any illegal drug (including anabolic steroids after February 27, 1991), other than marijuana, within the past ten years, or engaged in more than minimal experimentation in their lifetime. In making the determination about an applicant?s suitability for FBI employment, all relevant facts, including the frequency of use, will be evaluated.
Have used marijuana/cannabis within the past three years, or have extensively used marijuana/cannabis or over a substantial period of time. In making the determination about an applicant?s suitability for FBI employment, all relevant facts, including the recency and frequency of use, will be evaluated.
You can easily determine whether you meet the FBI's illegal drug policy by answering the following questions:
Have you used marijuana at all within the last three years?
Have you used any other illegal drug (including anabolic steroids after February 27, 1991) at all in the past 10 years?
Have you ever sold any illegal drug for profit?
Have you ever used an illegal drug (no matter how many times or how long ago) while in a law enforcement or prosecutorial position, or in a position which carries with it a high level of responsibility or public trust?
If you answered Yes to any of these questions, you are not eligible for employment with the FBI.
If I've learned anything from the #1 citizen of our country.... it's that honesty is far from the best policy.
It'll get you nowhere. Stick to "what they don't know won't hurt them."
It'll get you nowhere. Stick to "what they don't know won't hurt them."
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