Wendy?s Acts to Bypass City Order on Calories

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JDub02

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: JDub02
Originally posted by: leftyman
whatever..if your in Wendy's eating, figure at least 1500 calories.

Actually, my Wendy's lunch of a large chili and a baked potato comes in around 700 calories.

Don't forget the extra protein from that finger too. :laugh:

mmmm, fingers ... :thumbsup:
 

hjo3

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Amused
Most Wendy's and McDonald's are franchises owned by small business men/families who are not rich by any means.
Really? Have you've tried to open one these franchises?

You have nearly a million dollars lying around to do so?
Actually, Dave. I have, and do own a franchise. When I started I was no where near "rich." In fact, for the first 10 years I made under 30K a year. My managers made more than me.
Haha, owned.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674

You could've easily picked a Schlotsky's and lost your shirt, lucky for you it wasn't.

you don't get paid for not taking risk.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

You could've easily picked a Schlotsky's and lost your shirt, lucky for you it wasn't.
you don't get paid for not taking risk.

True dat, I'm just saying he could of been one of the unlucky ones that picked Schlotsky's that most went belly up. I think there are some left? Not sure.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: hjo3
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Amused
Most Wendy's and McDonald's are franchises owned by small business men/families who are not rich by any means.
Really? Have you've tried to open one these franchises?

You have nearly a million dollars lying around to do so?
Actually, Dave. I have, and do own a franchise. When I started I was no where near "rich." In fact, for the first 10 years I made under 30K a year. My managers made more than me.
Haha, owned.

A McDonald's franchise costs a ot more than a Subway franchise.
 

vi edit

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That article was really confusing.

Am I reading this right - Any restaurant that had nutritional info posted in the store(wall posters, pamplets, ect) on March 1st had to ammend their menus & order boards in July?

So to avoid the July rules they pulled their current info?

Oops. Guess the lawmakers didn't really think of that one did they?

 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674

True dat, I'm just saying he could of been one of the unlucky ones that picked Schlotsky's that most went belly up. I think there are some left? Not sure.

i ate at one the other week.

what's this about them going belly up? i didn't see anything about it.
 

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Amused, why are you opposed to disclosure of nutritional information to customers?

I don't think his "beef" (heh) is so much with the disclosure as it is with the way the law is.

They ALREADY HAD disclosed the info. And they are being penalized further in the future for voluntarily disclosing it.

 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Amused, why are you opposed to disclosure of nutritional information to customers?

I'm sure he is not against the posting of nutritional information. This law seems to lock you into providing data for EVERY item handed to a customer. If you own a franchise and bake your own cookies from home and decide to sell them for $.25 a pop you would have to provide nutritional info. If you give a customer extra salt you would have to provide nutritional info different from the 'standard' posting.

It just looks like another avenue lawsuit happy people would be able to attack looking for a free buck.
 

vi edit

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Calorie testing is not easy or cheap. I think I remember reading that it can cost upwards of $10,000 an item to have proper testing done to document it's calorie content.
 

NuroMancer

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Amused, why are you opposed to disclosure of nutritional information to customers?

Where does he say he is opposed to the disclosure of nutritional info.?
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Amused
Most Wendy's and McDonald's are franchises owned by small business men/families who are not rich by any means.
Really? Have you've tried to open one these franchises?

You have nearly a million dollars lying around to do so?
Actually, Dave. I have, and do own a franchise. When I started I was no where near "rich." In fact, for the first 10 years I made under 30K a year. My managers made more than me.

the owner of the company i work for (which is also my stepfather) makes about 34k a year... on paper. but, he still gets the divs, the car, his house and harley are all paid for by cash that comes directly from the corp. his 34k or so a year goes in the bank and pays some bills, yes, but the majority of his living is paid for by corporate monies. if youre not doing the same, you would be the first entrepreneur ive ever seen not do it.


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my family tossed the idea of opening a taco bell in payson (a small town here) that didnt have one yet, and could have done it but they didnt want to commit to the 3 mil in assets that the parent corp wanted. that was 20 years ago, i cringe to think what that commit is now
 

Indolent

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Originally posted by: mugs
What issue do you have with this law, Amused?


It forces restaurants voluntarily providing calorie information to incur more costs. The only thing it is going to do is stop those restaurants from providing calorie information in the first place.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Indolent
Originally posted by: mugs
What issue do you have with this law, Amused?


It forces restaurants voluntarily providing calorie information to incur more costs. The only thing it is going to do is stop those restaurants from providing calorie information in the first place.

If they're already providing the information, then the only extra cost they incur is replacing the plastic inserts in their menu boards or reprinting paper menus...

What other restaurants in New York are taking down the information to avoid the law?

I'm not so sure Wendy's tactic is going to work. They still have the information on their website, they just have a clickable link that says they don't provide nutritional information to NYC customers... when nothing stops NYC customers from getting the information. :confused:
 

HomerJS

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Shouldn't NYC be more concerned about outlawing rats in fast food restaurants??
 

SacrosanctFiend

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Originally posted by: JDub02
Originally posted by: leftyman
whatever..if your in Wendy's eating, figure at least 1500 calories.

Actually, my Wendy's lunch of a large chili and a baked potato comes in around 700 calories.

My usual meal (#5 with a side salad and diet coke) comes out to 480 calories. It's actually a fairly healthy meal, minus the sodium intake.
 

edro

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Originally posted by: leftyman
whatever..if your in Wendy's eating, figure at least 1500 calories.
I don't want to argue with you... but I just want to prove the point that you can eat healthily at fast good restaurants.

Wendy's Grilled Chicken Combo /w Chilli and crackers /w Diet Coke
630 Calories
12g Fat
84g Carbs
50g Protein
 

Lotheron

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Originally posted by: edro
Originally posted by: leftyman
whatever..if your in Wendy's eating, figure at least 1500 calories.
I don't want to argue with you... but I just want to prove the point that you can eat healthily at fast good restaurants.

Wendy's Grilled Chicken Combo /w Chilli and crackers /w Diet Coke
630 Calories
12g Fat
84g Carbs
50g Protein

My fav Wendy's meal.

Not every meal has to include a big meat patty from fast food restaurants.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: hanoverphist
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Amused
Most Wendy's and McDonald's are franchises owned by small business men/families who are not rich by any means.
Really? Have you've tried to open one these franchises?

You have nearly a million dollars lying around to do so?
Actually, Dave. I have, and do own a franchise. When I started I was no where near "rich." In fact, for the first 10 years I made under 30K a year. My managers made more than me.

my family tossed the idea of opening a taco bell in payson (a small town here) that didnt have one yet, and could have done it but they didnt want to commit to the 3 mil in assets that the parent corp wanted. that was 20 years ago, i cringe to think what that commit is now

That's all I was saying, the OP made it sound like anyone can open a major franchise with money just lying around the house.
 
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I doubt most of them were opened with money people had "lying around the house." The people I know that have done it had to borrow from family members better off than they were or from banks or other financial establishments.