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Well this isn't something you see everyday...

Shawn

Shawn

Lifer
Hopefully this is off-topic enough for off-topic...

So I've been fooling around with Virtual PC and have been able to get get Windows 3.11 up and running. I installed the network drivers as well as the TCP/IP protocol and am now able to surf the net and share files with my real WinXP computer. 😀

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If you are wondering why I went to all the trouble, it is because i wanted an old MS-DOS rig which I could play all of my old DOS games. I have used DOSBox before but it has some issues with certain games so I thought I'd give this a try. However, because of the way Virtual PC works you can't really copy files over easily. I had to use a floppy disk to install the NIC drivers and TCP/IP protocol. However once I got those installed I was able to set up file sharing and everything works great. I just set up a folder on the virtual hard drive called Shared and gave it full write access so I can just drag files into it via Windows XP. Also, I can also access the shared files from my XP rig in Win3.11. Pretty cool if you ask me. 😎

File Sharing in Win3.11
 
Originally posted by: Shawn
Hopefully this is off-topic enough for off-topic...

So I've been fooling around with Virtual PC and have been able to get get Windows 3.11 up and running. I installed the network drivers as well as the TCP/IP protocol and am now able to surf the net and share files with my real WinXP computer. 😀

Pic

If you are wondering why I went to all the trouble, it is because i wanted an old MS-DOS rig which I could play all of my old DOS games. I have used DOSBox before but it has some issues with certain games so I thought I'd give this a try. However, because of the way Virtual PC works you can't really copy files over easily. I had to use a floppy disk to install the NIC drivers and TCP/IP protocol. However once I got those installed I was able to set up file sharing and everything works great. I just set up a folder on the virtual hard drive called Shared and gave it full write access so I can just drag files into it via Windows XP. Also, I can also access the shared files from my XP rig in Win3.11. Pretty cool if you ask me. 😎

File Sharing in Win3.11
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How did you get the TCP stack? IIRC I had to download those from MS back in the day to get 3.11 to do TCP/IP without using some package like Chameleon.
 
Originally posted by: Aflac
i hated 3.1 . no proper windows explorer ftl....

happy 20k post, btw.
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Having gotten comfortable on 95 and then going back and working on 3.1 was really confusing... meh, I have the same problem today though, I administer a mixed NT4,2000,2003 environment, and I can never remember how to get to things, I have to try it al different ways...

I was messing with a 98 machine the other day and was confused when I couldn't find the computer name in "my computer"...
 
I still have a Windows3.11 machine from 1994. It had a blazing fast 90MHz Pentium I processor, massive 1GB hard drive, and top-of-the-line 2X CD-ROM.
Just out of curiosity, a friend of mine has a dead machine of the same era (dead PSU, mobo, and RAM), and he's just gonna give me the 133MHz Pentium I CPU from it. Can I just drop it in? Any of you remember if that was possible from 12 years ago? The machine will become a backup file server (I have a spare 80GB hard drive for it).
 
I do remember all the good times I had playing floppy games, though. Mario Is Missing, Raptor:Call of the Shadows, Jazz Jackrabbit, KidWorks 2 (okay i was like 5-7 when we had win 3.1),and Duke Nukem!
 
Originally posted by: soydios
I still have a Windows3.11 machine from 1994. It had a blazing fast 90MHz Pentium I processor, massive 1GB hard drive, and top-of-the-line 2X CD-ROM.
Just out of curiosity, a friend of mine has a dead machine of the same era (dead PSU, mobo, and RAM), and he's just gonna give me the 133MHz Pentium I CPU from it. Can I just drop it in? Any of you remember if that was possible from 12 years ago? The machine will become a backup file server (I have a spare 80GB hard drive for it).
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What OS are you going to put on it? If you are using Windows 3.11, the max HDD size is 2 gigs IIRC
 
Originally posted by: BW86
I loved Win 3.11
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I liked it as well until I started working with NT 3.51. After that all of the non NT based MS OS's became increasingly annoying for me to use for anything other than gaming.
 
Originally posted by: Aflac
i hated 3.1 . no proper windows explorer ftl....

happy 20k post, btw.
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Actually, at the time, I thought File Manager was much better than the way Win95 dealt with files. If you remember the default behavior of Win95 was to open every directory in a new window. I thought this was extremely unorgainzed and for the longest time I continued to use the old File Manager.

Since I had upgraded from Win3.1 pretty much all of my files were 8 characters or less so the lack of long filename support didn't matter much. However after a while typing c:\progra~1, etc. got old so I made the switch.
 
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Shawn
Hopefully this is off-topic enough for off-topic...

So I've been fooling around with Virtual PC and have been able to get get Windows 3.11 up and running. I installed the network drivers as well as the TCP/IP protocol and am now able to surf the net and share files with my real WinXP computer. 😀

Pic

If you are wondering why I went to all the trouble, it is because i wanted an old MS-DOS rig which I could play all of my old DOS games. I have used DOSBox before but it has some issues with certain games so I thought I'd give this a try. However, because of the way Virtual PC works you can't really copy files over easily. I had to use a floppy disk to install the NIC drivers and TCP/IP protocol. However once I got those installed I was able to set up file sharing and everything works great. I just set up a folder on the virtual hard drive called Shared and gave it full write access so I can just drag files into it via Windows XP. Also, I can also access the shared files from my XP rig in Win3.11. Pretty cool if you ask me. 😎

File Sharing in Win3.11
Click to expand...

How did you get the TCP stack? IIRC I had to download those from MS back in the day to get 3.11 to do TCP/IP without using some package like Chameleon.
Click to expand...

I got it from here.
 
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: soydios
I still have a Windows3.11 machine from 1994. It had a blazing fast 90MHz Pentium I processor, massive 1GB hard drive, and top-of-the-line 2X CD-ROM.
Just out of curiosity, a friend of mine has a dead machine of the same era (dead PSU, mobo, and RAM), and he's just gonna give me the 133MHz Pentium I CPU from it. Can I just drop it in? Any of you remember if that was possible from 12 years ago? The machine will become a backup file server (I have a spare 80GB hard drive for it).
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What OS are you going to put on it? If you are using Windows 3.11, the max HDD size is 2 gigs IIRC
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You can use a hard drive larger than 2GB, however the largest partition size for FAT16 is 2GB, so you would need to make more than one partition.

Also, the P90s used a very high voltage (around 3.5v or something crazy), so if you put in a different processor make sure you adjust the voltage. If you don't you'll fry the other processor. Don't ask me how I know. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: Shawn
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Shawn
Hopefully this is off-topic enough for off-topic...

So I've been fooling around with Virtual PC and have been able to get get Windows 3.11 up and running. I installed the network drivers as well as the TCP/IP protocol and am now able to surf the net and share files with my real WinXP computer. 😀

Pic

If you are wondering why I went to all the trouble, it is because i wanted an old MS-DOS rig which I could play all of my old DOS games. I have used DOSBox before but it has some issues with certain games so I thought I'd give this a try. However, because of the way Virtual PC works you can't really copy files over easily. I had to use a floppy disk to install the NIC drivers and TCP/IP protocol. However once I got those installed I was able to set up file sharing and everything works great. I just set up a folder on the virtual hard drive called Shared and gave it full write access so I can just drag files into it via Windows XP. Also, I can also access the shared files from my XP rig in Win3.11. Pretty cool if you ask me. 😎

File Sharing in Win3.11
Click to expand...

How did you get the TCP stack? IIRC I had to download those from MS back in the day to get 3.11 to do TCP/IP without using some package like Chameleon.
Click to expand...

I got it from here.
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Heh now I'm very tempted to dig out my old Tyan Tomcat and see if it still works.
 
Originally posted by: soydios
I still have a Windows3.11 machine from 1994. It had a blazing fast 90MHz Pentium I processor, massive 1GB hard drive, and top-of-the-line 2X CD-ROM.
Just out of curiosity, a friend of mine has a dead machine of the same era (dead PSU, mobo, and RAM), and he's just gonna give me the 133MHz Pentium I CPU from it. Can I just drop it in? Any of you remember if that was possible from 12 years ago? The machine will become a backup file server (I have a spare 80GB hard drive for it).
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You'll need to change jumpers on the motherboard for the multiplier, FSB (I believe the 90 and 133 used different ones) and possibly the vcore. I doubt a machine from 1994 has a bios that handles that.
 
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: BW86
I loved Win 3.11
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I liked it as well until I started working with NT 3.51. After that all of the non NT based MS OS's became increasingly annoying for me to use for anything other than gaming.
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They were annoying to use for gaming as well. You just didn't have any choice.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Windows 3.11 for Workgroups was the shiz.
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no, upgrading from 3.11 to 95 from floppies was the shiz
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exactly what i did to upgrade my pentium 1 90mhz. i was a n00b back then, didn't know they had a CD version out
14 floppies. what a joke that was.

then again, if you think about it, 20MB was all you needed for win95... now Vista Beta 2 DVD is almost 4GB

Maybe I should install Win3.1 on my vista rig 😀
 
Originally posted by: EKKC
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Windows 3.11 for Workgroups was the shiz.
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no, upgrading from 3.11 to 95 from floppies was the shiz
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exactly what i did to upgrade my pentium 1 90mhz. i was a n00b back then, didn't know they had a CD version out
14 floppies. what a joke that was.

then again, if you think about it, 20MB was all you needed for win95... now Vista Beta 2 DVD is almost 4GB

Maybe I should install Win3.1 on my vista rig 😀
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Then again, Win3.11 was only 8MB or so. 😛
 
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