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Well this is crap... outsniped
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blackdogdeek
Lifer
is it self-pwnage yet?
purbeast0
No Lifer
i think the part where he kept dodging the reply to post the actual link to the auction, then him finally "copy/pasting" a false bid history, then someone finding the actual link to the bid history and him manufacturing the bid history to somewhat meet his story, all while everyone was telling him how wrong he was, is definitely self ownage.
HumblePie
Lifer
Meh as others have said, no reason to get your panties in a twist over being "outsniped" on an auction.
For others that don't know the reason for sniping there are plenty.
1) Bidding draws attention to an auction. More attention means more people may start placing bids. If this is an item you want chances are you want it at the lowest possible price you can get it for. When there are other people bidding then a cheap price may be hard to get.
2) Many people who sell on ebay are unscrupulous. It's illegal to this, but many people use multiple accounts. You place a bid for $10 with a max of $50. The seller uses another account to start incrementing the bid up. Once they've gone over your max bid they then retract that bid. This sticks you with a $50 bid when you may have have gotten the item for $10 instead.
Bid sniping prevents both of those. However, in the case of two snipers within the last few seconds it whomever bid the highest is going to win. The OP doesn't realize that it is highly unlikely the other sniper had saw his sniped bid in the last 8 seconds and manually sniped at 2 seconds. Refreshing like that is hard to time manually in case there is a lag spike. More then likely the other bidder had set it up before hand and forgot about it.
For others that don't know the reason for sniping there are plenty.
1) Bidding draws attention to an auction. More attention means more people may start placing bids. If this is an item you want chances are you want it at the lowest possible price you can get it for. When there are other people bidding then a cheap price may be hard to get.
2) Many people who sell on ebay are unscrupulous. It's illegal to this, but many people use multiple accounts. You place a bid for $10 with a max of $50. The seller uses another account to start incrementing the bid up. Once they've gone over your max bid they then retract that bid. This sticks you with a $50 bid when you may have have gotten the item for $10 instead.
Bid sniping prevents both of those. However, in the case of two snipers within the last few seconds it whomever bid the highest is going to win. The OP doesn't realize that it is highly unlikely the other sniper had saw his sniped bid in the last 8 seconds and manually sniped at 2 seconds. Refreshing like that is hard to time manually in case there is a lag spike. More then likely the other bidder had set it up before hand and forgot about it.
How did you go about finding the auction? My internet detective skills failed me.
Schfifty Five
Lifer
I thank you sir.
You have done a great service to this forum.
/salutes daidensensei
Schfifty Five
Lifer
Schfifty Five
Lifer
rofl.
purbeast0
No Lifer
i like how he said this with his "paste" of the bid history...
yes, "us tools" need to "get this properly" when he is the one editing his own copy and paste job LOL!
Lean L
Diamond Member
What's up with your orgasms over this thread? Are you joining the leagues of all the other me-followers? (Many of whom are in this thread)
W/e, the point needed to be made by any means necessary.
purbeast0
No Lifer
self ownage threads are the most amusing ones.
Schfifty Five
Lifer
Which was?
Lean L
Diamond Member
Purposes of sniping.
If I made a thread in a hidden forum with a no title and no thread ID, you'd still manage to post in it wouldn't you?
Ns1
No Lifer
your googlefu is pro status.
Schfifty Five
Lifer
Your point was just to whine and cry about losing an auction. Then you start calling everyone a tool and dumb for not understanding sniping. Then you got called out and showed that you had no idea what you were talking about. Then you got caught editing the bid history.
And yet you still are trying to defend yourself. Just give up dude.
Maybe he just likes watching people prove they are an idiot
God I hate those. Then it just becomes a matter of who has more time to waste following an auction as it just keeps getting extended and extended and extended and extended...
jlee
Lifer
I haven't noticed that so much, though I haven't bought much via gunbroker. I think that if you eliminate the ability to auction snipe, people will be more inclined to use the system like you're supposed to, and just bid what you're willing to spend.
I've gotten into a couple of instances with a particular site where the timer gets down to 15 seconds before someone bids. Then it goes to 15 minutes. I place my bid. Then again at around 15 seconds another bid comes in extending the auction again. Rinse repeat until someone finally gives up
People will always try to game the system for their gain (Not that I don't understand the motivation I just find it really really annoying)
purbeast0
No Lifer
that doesn't change anything. if someone was willing to pay their true max bid before the initial timer ran out, and they get outbid and the time is extended, then they wouldn't rebid anyways since it's more than their max value.
it wouldn't work as desired just like ebay doesn't work as desired, which is why sniping can work sometimes.
mugs
Lifer
If sniping works to some extent, then extending the auction after a late bid can work to a similar extent. We acknowledge that sniping works because many people don't enter their true max bid until they have been outbid at lower amounts. Extending the auction (by an hour, not just a few minutes) gives that person (or other people) a chance to outbid the sniper.
Whether this is something that eBay "should" do comes down to what their goals are. If the goal is to allow sellers to sell things at fair market value, then extend the auctions to kill the snipers. eBay doesn't care about this though, eBay has no qualms about screwing sellers because they know that the alternatives that sellers have are generally less desirable than eBay. The buyers on the other hand have many other places to buy from, at least now that so much of the stuff on eBay is new and not used or rare.
dpodblood
Diamond Member
LOL
This has got to be one of the funniest self ownage threads I have ever read. Lets recap.
1) OP opens a thread whining about being outbid.
2) OP claims he is an ebay expert and everyone else is a tool.
3) OP "pastes" bid details to try and prove everyone else is wrong.
4) OP's details are proven falsified yet, OP continues to argue.
Good times! Props to gaidensensei for his strong googlefu! 😀
This has got to be one of the funniest self ownage threads I have ever read. Lets recap.
1) OP opens a thread whining about being outbid.
2) OP claims he is an ebay expert and everyone else is a tool.
3) OP "pastes" bid details to try and prove everyone else is wrong.
4) OP's details are proven falsified yet, OP continues to argue.
Good times! Props to gaidensensei for his strong googlefu! 😀
Schfifty Five
Lifer
Perfect summary.
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