Well... They're Really Going To Do It

Page 3 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
17,788
6,041
136
He has a business sense of how to do things. Among other things our countries infrastructure (roads, bridges, tunnels, electric grid) are in dire need of major repair or improvement. He also wants to rebuild military strength which is a good thing. What needs to be fixed is the overspending on needless items and the excessive bureaucracy that the government currently has.

What exactly are the needless items in your opinion?

Where is Trump going to get the money to do all this rebuilding? The military alone would take more money than cutting any of the "needless items" could hope to pay for.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
87,990
55,398
136
He has a business sense of how to do things. Among other things our countries infrastructure (roads, bridges, tunnels, electric grid) are in dire need of major repair or improvement. He also wants to rebuild military strength which is a good thing. What needs to be fixed is the overspending on needless items and the excessive bureaucracy that the government currently has.

How do you feel about his constant lying, the huge deficits he has promised to create, and the fact that he appears to have stolen large amounts of money from thousands of people?
 

sontakke

Senior member
Aug 8, 2001
895
11
81
The most depressing thing is how naive or retarded some of the supporters seem to be. I can understand the frustration and the anger and the "let it burn the whole thing" response but when somebody actually thinks that Trump will fix the problems with the country and the system, I just give up. Are you really that stupid? You should not even breath.

We are beyond hope.
 

bruceb

Diamond Member
Aug 20, 2004
8,874
111
106
I feel the country as a whole would be better off with a Republican as opposed to potentially 4 or possibly 8 more years with a Democrat, especially not Hillary. As to budget cuts, lots of waste in many government run programs. As to congress controlling the purse, right now we have a Republican Majority, so if it stays that way, things can be done.
 
Feb 4, 2009
35,862
17,403
136
I feel the country as a whole would be better off with a Republican as opposed to potentially 4 or possibly 8 more years with a Democrat, especially not Hillary. As to budget cuts, lots of waste in many government run programs. As to congress controlling the purse, right now we have a Republican Majority, so if it stays that way, things can be done.

A reasonable position. I do have to point out in recent history budgets are handled better with Democrats. Even one of the Koch Brothers admitted Hillary would be more responsible with spending than Trump or Cruz(?)
This isn't saying Republicans get no credit but it takes two who are willing to make sacrifices and bargains to make it happen.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
33,541
17,060
136
I feel the country as a whole would be better off with a Republican as opposed to potentially 4 or possibly 8 more years with a Democrat, especially not Hillary. As to budget cuts, lots of waste in many government run programs. As to congress controlling the purse, right now we have a Republican Majority, so if it stays that way, things can be done.

Can you show me the last time a Republican president and a Republican Congress cut government spending? No? Well then what about a Democrat president and a Republican Congress?
 

bruceb

Diamond Member
Aug 20, 2004
8,874
111
106
You have seen the budget skyrocket under Obama .. Enough said .. It will be President Trump
come November and then we will see what transpires for the economy.
 

michal1980

Diamond Member
Mar 7, 2003
8,019
43
91
The conservative choice would be to go with Hillary. I can't even imagine giving trump control of the military with 0 experience.

Did you vote for Obama?

He had zero experience.

Hillarys experience is great, a track record of resetting relations with Russia back to the cold war, and her campaign in Libya, oh and wasn't she for Iraq, until she wasn't. Brilliant experience she has.
 

michal1980

Diamond Member
Mar 7, 2003
8,019
43
91
Thief: Trump is currently the defendant in numerous lawsuits over how he defrauded thousands of people in the Trump University scam.

Liar: Trump is widely known to be a pathological liar. He has the lowest percentage of true statements on politifact of any presidential candidate ever.

Treasonous: lolwut.

Anti-gun: Good!

Budget: The policies that Trump has put forth would, if enacted, create the largest budget deficits in US history by a large margin.

I always find it funny when people say 'I'm not voting for Hillary because she's X' and they somehow don't seem to realize that Trump is X^2.

Hilary is a known X, she's been in government forever. Trump is X^2 in the fear mongering lefts mind.

If trump wasn't the nominee, you guys would be saying the same things just with different names
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
33,541
17,060
136
You have seen the budget skyrocket under Obama .. Enough said .. It will be President Trump
come November and then we will see what transpires for the economy.

Hmmm....I wonder what major event happened when Obama took office that would cause some huge deficits? Can you think of anything?
 

compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
27,112
930
126
Hey Sporty, I didn't think we were gonna survive Bush or Obama, but we did. While I can't stand each of the candidates that are running, I'm sure we'll survive them too. Either one will be a one term POTUS, if not impeached first. ;)
 

bruceb

Diamond Member
Aug 20, 2004
8,874
111
106
With all the scandal, Hillary should not even be allowed to run. She should be in jail. As to any impeachment, Obama did a lot of things that many would consider to be illegal and circumventing congress and he was not, but should have been, impeached.
 

compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
27,112
930
126
With all the scandal, Hillary should not even be allowed to run. She should be in jail. As to any impeachment, Obama did a lot of things that many would consider to be illegal and circumventing congress and he was not, but should have been, impeached.

Trading 5 high level terrorists for a deserter should have been THE ONE, if anything, IMO.
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
50,422
14,337
136
Hilary is a known X, she's been in government forever. Trump is X^2 in the fear mongering lefts mind.

If trump wasn't the nominee, you guys would be saying the same things just with different names
The prospect of that buffoon's finger on the nuclear button is a completely reasonable and sane fear.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
16,208
4,889
136
I need more funding for college and forgiveness for my student loans so I have to vote for Hillary.:D
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
50,422
14,337
136
I need more funding for college and forgiveness for my student loans so I have to vote for Hillary.:D
I'm too old to have student loans. But I'd like to point out that debt forgiveness for a good many student loans is coming regardless of what happens in November. Much of it is uncollectable. That these lenders and the government are continuing to act like it's not bad debt is considered a form of fraud in most other types of lending, because it allows them to hide their losses.
 
Feb 4, 2009
35,862
17,403
136
I'm too old to have student loans. But I'd like to point out that debt forgiveness for a good many student loans is coming regardless of what happens in November. Much of it is uncollectable. That these lenders and the government are continuing to act like it's not bad debt is considered a form of fraud in most other types of lending, because it allows them to hide their losses.

I thought this was changed and can't be cleared by bankruptcy.
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
50,422
14,337
136
I thought this was changed and can't be cleared by bankruptcy.
Just because the debt can't be bankrupted doesn't mean that the borrower is going to pay, or can even be made to pay. So sure, they can't qualify for an FHA loan and they're never getting their social security benefits, but they're still not paying. There's that old saying, you can't get blood out of a turnip...
 
Last edited:

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
11,492
3,163
136
Well, they did it. They actually did it.
All off those media folks, republican folks, democrat folks that said from the beginning this could - would never happen.
Well, it just happened.

Such an odd alignment of misfits.
The day that a major American political party sold its very soul in hopes of controlling the courts.
Will it pay off? Worth it?
The lesson from history, this never pans out as expected.
The stage is set for things to go bad, very very bad.
When the economy crashes, riots become the national pastime, people suffer and poverty explodes, I doubt the makeup of the US Supreme court will be on very many minds.
 

Artdeco

Platinum Member
Mar 14, 2015
2,682
1
0
Well, they did it. They actually did it.
All off those media folks, republican folks, democrat folks that said from the beginning this could - would never happen.
Well, it just happened.

Such an odd alignment of misfits.
The day that a major American political party sold its very soul in hopes of controlling the courts.
Will it pay off? Worth it?
The lesson from history, this never pans out as expected.
The stage is set for things to go bad, very very bad.
When the economy crashes, riots become the national pastime, people suffer and poverty explodes, I doubt the makeup of the US Supreme court will be on very many minds.

LOL, how long does it take for you to unbunch your panties? They seem a little wound up.

You don't believe the polls and the electoral counts showing an easy Hillary win?

OMG, the sky is falling, and I just peed myself!

Grow a pair and man up, you sound like an angst ridden pre teen.
 

UglyCasanova

Lifer
Mar 25, 2001
19,275
1,361
126
To be clear he is speaking to the 'pessimism' of white people. His message is basically that foreigners are the cause of our problems whether it is from bad trade deals to fifth columnist Muslims to mexican rapists.

I'd disagree with that. There are plenty of blacks, Asians, legal Hispanics etc that get shafted by our open border policy as well. He may come off racist but between him and Hillary I think Trump is much more in line with watching out for the middle class.