Well, the worst part is over, I guess.

johnjohn320

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I've basically spent all my outside-of-school-and-homework time for the past few weeks in Elgin, IL , playing for Les Miserables. I really gotta get out of this theatre crap-everytime I get hired by a company, I end up doing three times the work I initially agreed. (Granted-they usually raise my fee for this, but not considerably).

It all started out when they needed a fill-in for their regular rehearsal pianist several months ago. I said sure, what they hey, 25 bucks a rehearsal, not bad. Then they approached me about playing in the pit orchestra for the actual production. But not for piano-they'd heard that I play double reeds (oboe, english horn) as well, so they wanted me to play that in the pit. Ok, I was fine with that. There was tech week, the every night for ungodly long hours rehearsal schedule bit, and then opening night. They were only going to do a total of about 10 or 12 shows or so. (To give you an idea of where I'm at, opening night was Oct 4). Just before tech week, on that sunday night, I met the pit conductor and did a run-through (on piano) of act one with the cast and him getting a feel for the score. Frankly, I discovered that night that he is a jerk! I won't go into too much detail, but that night (and for many more nights to follow) he was one of those guys who likes to jump and down and swear and insult a lot.
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So I'm going about my merry way last weekend, playing the show on oboe, figuring I would do the same this weekend. Well, last Sunday, they informed me that the entire pit orchestra would be unavailable for the following Friday (today) matinee performance, and they needed one pianist-apparently me. So basically, this morning I performed Les Miserables in its entirety: solo. (with the singers, of course).

It was scary as hell, let me tell you. I don't know the score very well, and here I am trying to perform it straight-through for an audience. I don't know if any of you are familiar with the show, but there is no dialogue (which technically I guess makes it an opera), everything is sung-and played. 3 and a half hours or so of solid music. I was dreading it all week, because I really didn't have time to practice it anymore. I didn't have any time set aside for that kind of thing because I was unaware that this was going to be happening.

But, in the end, I guess it all worked out. I made my fair share of mistakes, certain parts were "interesting" as I like to put it. ;) All is well, I didn't get shot, I got my check, and left. What sucks now is I gotta go back again and perform tonight-on oboe. I'm so sick of doing this. I repeat: I have got to get out of this theatre crap. Last weekend was shot, and so is this whole weekend, cause I have to go play god knows what instrument for hours at a time for a conductor I really don't like and a director (of the show) that I never see.

But hey, one cool thing about it though: I'm the only high-schooler in the pit. The rest of them are Northern Illinois University Grad students. :) Flattering in a way, intimidating in another.
 

Kevin

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It sounds like you're in a position of power, maybe you can sqeeze their belts a little more?
 

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and once when I was in band camp.....


j/k, that must be a good feeling to perform professionally like that. I would squeeze them for more money.
 

DaveSimmons

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Well if you're intending to play professionally in the future you can't beat real-world experience like this. Starting your resume in high school gives you a head start on the people who wait until junior-senior year in college to start, and might give you a wider choice of schools and/or future jobs.

Think of it as AP classes except that they're paying you.

I did game programming work for a couple of companies before college and it definitely helped me with my undergraduate CS degree.
 
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Congrats to you...that is pretty dang awesome....i tell ya, i wish i could come across an oppertunity like that in my "field"
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: ActPrincess
Congrats to you...that is pretty dang awesome....i tell ya, i wish i could come across an oppertunity like that in my "field"

Thank you, what is your "field"?

It sounds like you're in a position of power, maybe you can sqeeze their belts a little more?

Not sure what you mean...you mean demand more money? Nah, they already pay much better than most of the companies around here, and they're on a modest budget these days (who isn't). It has nothing to do with the money that's stressing me out, it's just the way this has all gone.

and once when I was in band camp.....

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Never fails, anytime I post something music-related, someone quotes that stupid movie. ;)

Well if you're intending to play professionally in the future you can't beat real-world experience like this. Starting your resume in high school gives you a head start on the people who wait until junior-senior year in college to start, and might give you a wider choice of schools and/or future jobs.

Think of it as AP classes except that they're paying you.

I did game programming work for a couple of companies before college and it definitely helped me with my undergraduate CS degree.

True, but I'm getting it other ways that pertain more to what I want to do. This is my...8th broadway show I believe? So, that's covered, no need to worry about getting that experience down on resumes anymore, it's done if I want it to be. What's more important at this point, since I want to major in classical piano, are other oppertunities I'm taking advantage of, such as playing for any professor who will listen to me, talking to people in powerful positions and staying in touch with them, performing in recitals in front of prestigious (sp?) faculty, all that good stuff. I'm accomplishing this as well, but it's a lot harder to come by oppertunities for that than theatre. I swear, there must be millions of amateur/professional theatre companies in the Chicago area...It's been fun to play for a lot of them and I've enjoyed the experience, but, man, it just doesn't seem worth it on days like these. I mean, I'm leaving in an about an hour for ANOTHER performance....gah...
 

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The entire orchestra was unavailable for a PERFORMANCE????
WTF is THAT all about? They actually ran a show in front of a paying audience with just a pianist?
That's ridiculous....Mad props for getting through that....

Count your blessings, though....I've never been paid a penny for any show I've ever been in.

The play I'm in right now, as a matter of fact _I_ had to pay $10 membership dues as a condition for accepting the part! First time I ever LOST money on a show hehehehehe.

Anyway, there's a reason I didn't go into theatre professionally...I need a "normal" structured life, not worrying about becoming unemployed when this run closes unless I can find another show. And I'm not sure I could handle dealing with "theatre people" like the director you mention day after day :)

I'm perfectly content to drift from regional show to regional show, taking a part when the mood suits me and taking off when it doesn't.
 

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Wow, you must be really good at it. That is pretty cool you are able to do that. All the real world time will probably help you in the long run.
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: Jzero
The entire orchestra was unavailable for a PERFORMANCE????
WTF is THAT all about? They actually ran a show in front of a paying audience with just a pianist?
That's ridiculous....Mad props for getting through that....

Count your blessings, though....I've never been paid a penny for any show I've ever been in.

The play I'm in right now, as a matter of fact _I_ had to pay $10 membership dues as a condition for accepting the part! First time I ever LOST money on a show hehehehehe.

Anyway, there's a reason I didn't go into theatre professionally...I need a "normal" structured life, not worrying about becoming unemployed when this run closes unless I can find another show. And I'm not sure I could handle dealing with "theatre people" like the director you mention day after day :)

I'm perfectly content to drift from regional show to regional show, taking a part when the mood suits me and taking off when it doesn't.

It was for some sort of "educational" type thing-lots of students and critics and the like in the audience. They were only paying half the price of admission, etc. So, it was a performance, but not like, open to the public, y'know? (Who would want to go see a show at 10 am on a friday anyway?)

I know what you mean by the structured life, which is why I'm looking to teach music, not perform it. :) if the performance oppertunities pop up, hey, some extra cash, but I'm not looking at it for a 9-5 career.
 

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mad props. I've always wanted to play but couldn't be bothered.....

My friend played violin for the Priminister of England and a bunch of people at this dinner. They paid him $50 ish for a 15 minute piece. I always admire the guy as hes so good, also plays piano.

grade 8 on piano and hes got a diploma in violin. Teachers at $10 for half an hr.
 

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I sort of know how you feel. This summer I was called to do a regional premiere of Ragtime. They sent me the tuba/euphonium book and said just to learn the whole thing on tuba since I don't play the euphonium. Well, it goes pretty damn high, so I spent a total of about 20 hours practicing it and getting my high chops into shape. Well, when I went to the first rehearsal, the director bitched me out for not having a euphonium. I explained the situation to him, and he told me that if I want to be a doubler (meaning double pay for playing two parts), I better get a euphonium. Well, I did, and I spent another 30 or so hours learning to play the damn thing. I did the show damn well, but still only got single pay. I tried complaining, but the director conveniently "didn't mention double pay". Ugh. At least I got my name out.
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: sobriquet
I sort of know how you feel. This summer I was called to do a regional premiere of Ragtime. They sent me the tuba/euphonium book and said just to learn the whole thing on tuba since I don't play the euphonium. Well, it goes pretty damn high, so I spent a total of about 20 hours practicing it and getting my high chops into shape. Well, when I went to the first rehearsal, the director bitched me out for not having a euphonium. I explained the situation to him, and he told me that if I want to be a doubler (meaning double pay for playing two parts), I better get a euphonium. Well, I did, and I spent another 30 or so hours learning to play the damn thing. I did the show damn well, but still only got single pay. I tried complaining, but the director conveniently "didn't mention double pay". Ugh. At least I got my name out.

That's crap. :( Where was the show? Was this professional or amateur theatre?