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Well now I'm sad

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Wife turned down a job today where she would make $30k more a year - which is a bonkers increase for a teacher. She was blabbing on about how class sizes were too big, too much red tape, drive was too far blah blah blah.

Teacher shortage is starting to hit MI hard with districts starting to offer matching or even matching+ years of service (previously if you changed schools you'd normally start near the bottom of that district's pay scale). I just need one of the better schools near us to struggle to fill a position so she can apply for it
 
Happy wife, happy life so suck it up.

Mine has 20 years in as a therapist, $35/hr, ~15 hrs/wk (bless her cause I couldn't do that).

30 years at a non profit, 50 hrs/wk...$4.35/hr at the end of the day.

And back on topic, why wouldn't there be a teacher shortage? Treated like shit by the parents/kids/admins/etc and expected to work 80 hrs/wk. Friend went from a teacher to asst principal. She made $4 more per month after adding in the car line/sporting events/parent conferences/....She went back to the classroom.

When young peeps tell me that they want to be teachers, I'm like WTF? Didn't you go to public school? But...."Let's crush charter schools. E-vile tools of bad parents everywhere." 🙄
 
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No I get it. Not hating the job is important. But still... 🙂

And yeah the environment for teachers is shit in a lot of places with a ridiculously low starting salary. Lots of recent grads do a year or two and "Nope." right out of the classroom and into a better paying profession
 
Exterous said:
No I get it. Not hating the job is important. But still... 🙂

And yeah the environment for teachers is shit in a lot of places with a ridiculously low starting salary. Lots of recent grads do a year or two and "Nope." right out of the classroom and into a better paying profession
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Some idiot parent should have worked that out prior to paying for college. Bobo's "gotta have a degree" does not work outside of academia. Imagine that....

Idiots. Maybe they do get what they deserve. And the "oh, woe, I signed for my baby's college" shit...choke on ramen.



Am I being pissy tonight? Tough crap.
 
highland145 said:
Some idiot parent should have worked that out prior to paying for college. Bobo's "gotta have a degree" does not work outside of academia. Imagine that....

Idiots. Maybe they do get what they deserve. And the "oh, woe, I signed for my baby's college" shit...choke on ramen.



Am I being pissy tonight? Tough crap.
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Dude, have a couple beers, lolz!
 
My wife is an elementary school teacher, uh, ~30 years. She has a master's in reading and, obviously, is topped out steps wise. She worked around 20 years in the classroom and then had the opportunity to become a reading teacher. She was happy to leave the classroom and as a bonus, got a stipend. Now the district made her a title one supervisor, no additional stipend because reasons. Around 8 years ago, she got a new principle - not the brightest bulb. Slowly everything has descended into chaos, he has meager leadership skills and lets the parents, students and several teachers walk all over him. The title one group has gone from a happy four person team to an overburdened two. She’d like to retire from teaching and do something else, but we need her health insurance right now.

As I've watched over almost all of these years, teaching has gone from an honorable profession, with great principles and very positive parent involvement to a horror show. I wouldn’t recommend that anyone become a teacher and that’s the saddest indictment of all. Anyway, that’s all, buzz lightyear out.
 
Meanwhile here in Ontario they are firing teachers left and right.

The thing that sucks about losing your job as a teacher is that you normally don't have another place to go. There's only so many schools in a given city. Thankfully she managed to get back in under a contract. Not sure exactly how it all works but basically she still has a job, she's just not considered a permanent employee.
 
highland145 said:
Some idiot parent should have worked that out prior to paying for college. Bobo's "gotta have a degree" does not work outside of academia. Imagine that....

Idiots. Maybe they do get what they deserve. And the "oh, woe, I signed for my baby's college" shit...choke on ramen.
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Until very recently schools were cutting salaries for new employees so you could start your degree only to find out the average starting salary is $5k less a year than when you started school. Might not seem like a ton to people in IT but when you go from thinking you'll make $38k/year to $33k/year that hurts. (<- real example)

Also a lot are idealistic 'want to help change the world and grow the next generation' but then see what the real world teaching environment is like and realize they could go be a manager at Target and make a lot more for a lot less crap. (<- real example)

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Isn't she already at the top step at this point?
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What? No. Listen here rugrat - we're not even close to old enough so get off my lawn! Some schools also implemented 45 year pay scales to top out instead of 30 so she'd be even farther away if she taught at one of those
 
I have a friend who makes 150k as a math teacher at a public school. He's only been there a few years too...

Of course it's silicon valley so he still can't afford to buy a house but that's not a bad salary for a teacher.
 
I never understand women incompetence to moving up in life.

I've switched jobs... 3 times since being out of college (first one was forced from outsourcing my position). Fattest pay increases in all my career. Now I'm finally at an income level that I can say now (and even 10 years from now) that I'm happy with.

But hey - they are comfortable with cushy jobs of relaxed work, more power to them. Just don't complain about the pay is all I can say, it's your choice in the end.

EDIT: I cannot stress this enough - FUCKING MOVE AROUND. There is NOTHING better you can do for your career. It will result in:
1) Learning new skills, systems, etc.
2) Learning new industries
3) Learning to deal with different people - so improving social skills
4) Fatter paycheck (typically)

I went through 5+ years of public accounting. Shit was fucking hell on earth. But thanks to it (and moving around) I now have a job I actually want due to the sacrifices from prior years. That is the ONLY reason I beat out the other competition.
 
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Ajay said:
My wife is an elementary school teacher, uh, ~30 years. She has a master's in reading and, obviously, is topped out steps wise. She worked around 20 years in the classroom and then had the opportunity to become a reading teacher. She was happy to leave the classroom and as a bonus, got a stipend. Now the district made her a title one supervisor, no additional stipend because reasons. Around 8 years ago, she got a new principle - not the brightest bulb. Slowly everything has descended into chaos, he has meager leadership skills and lets the parents, students and several teachers walk all over him. The title one group has gone from a happy four person team to an overburdened two. She’d like to retire from teaching and do something else, but we need her health insurance right now.

As I've watched over almost all of these years, teaching has gone from an honorable profession, with great principles and very positive parent involvement to a horror show. I wouldn’t recommend that anyone become a teacher and that’s the saddest indictment of all. Anyway, that’s all, buzz lightyear out.
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Yeah but they can still bang students, so that's a plus right?
 
BudAshes said:
I have a friend who makes 150k as a math teacher at a public school. He's only been there a few years too...

Of course it's silicon valley so he still can't afford to buy a house but that's not a bad salary for a teacher.
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Like you said, all relative to location. You'd be doing fairly well in podunk S.C. with that.
 
highland145 said:
Happy wife, happy life so suck it up.

Mine has 20 years in as a therapist, $35/hr, ~15 hrs/wk (bless her cause I couldn't do that).

30 years at a non profit, 50 hrs/wk...$4.35/hr at the end of the day.

And back on topic, why wouldn't there be a teacher shortage? Treated like shit by the parents/kids/admins/etc and expected to work 80 hrs/wk. Friend went from a teacher to asst principal. She made $4 more per month after adding in the car line/sporting events/parent conferences/....She went back to the classroom.

When young peeps tell me that they want to be teachers, I'm like WTF? Didn't you go to public school? But...."Let's crush charter schools. E-vile tools of bad parents everywhere." 🙄
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But Billy needs help and needs afterschool attention to learn the school work! Who else could POSSIBLY help a child out with their homework?!?!?!
 
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No no - of course not. God forbid someone take the time to sit down with their child and attempt to help them with school work or pay for their lunches (or rather, make a lunch).
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I did the math, the wife handled the lit part. When he started calculus, I told him I wasn't re-learning that. Thankfully his teacher had liberal tutor hours....

....wait a damn minute, overnight? 😡
 
highland145 said:
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