Well Nancy the honeymoon might be over...

[Commodus]

What’s disingenuous? She made a gaff and I posted about it. If you scroll up and down the first page you’ll notice any number of threads of left leaning posters making threads about Trumps numerous gaffs. How many right leaning posters do you find freaking out over it calling it trolling, pleading to people not to click the threads, saying it’s disingenous etc? You can’t take what you like to dish out it seems.

I'm not sure I'd have a specific issue with this thread myself, but you do have a history of starting threads which feign innocence or are deeply concerned about something that isn't really concerning.

 

[Zorba]

Yeah it seemed fine and measuring an issue by twitter outrage is ridiculous. I wonder how many are even real people.

Are we supposed to be angry because she said ‘all lives matter’? If so, whoever thinks that misses the whole point as she specifically followed that by saying we needed to redress the grievances of black people.

The reason ‘all lives matter’ is a shitty thing to say is that conservatives use it specifically as an excuse NOT to redress the grievances of black people. Considering she’s saying the exact opposite...

This.

I have always taken Black Lives Matter to mean, "Black lives also matter" as in they matter just as much as everyone else's, not that they are the only ones that matter. Conservatives try to spin it as "Only black live matter." If you understand English, it's pretty clear she agrees with the former, not the latter.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think she should have known better than to utter the words "all lives matter." If you look at the context she clearly meant well but that phrase is like acid to African Americans since the alt-right made it their battle cry.

Too fucking bad for them. All lives do matter. When Black lives are disrespected, all lives are disrespected because life doesn’t have a color. If the hatred against color, read race, is defined as racial, as if that bigotry had validity, then continuing to maintain that identity just feeds the issue. We can speak of the history of racism and the deficits it has scarred us with even the need to redress it with emphasis, but I would say we should speak of racism historically and focus on injustice generically for the future. It is time, I think, to prevent Republicans from dividing people along racial lines by Democrats speaking to the life of everybody without distinction. Any real and effective solutions will help those furthest behind the most whoever they be.

 

[Jaskalas]

Man are you guys reaching.

This.

I have always taken Black Lives Matter to mean, "Black lives also matter" as in they matter just as much as everyone else's, not that they are the only ones that matter. Conservatives try to spin it as "Only black live matter." If you understand English, it's pretty clear she agrees with the former, not the latter.

The Root: Nancy Pelosi Banged Her "All Lives Matter" Drum Despite Being Given the Perfect Opportunity to Do Otherwise

As has been proven time and time and time again, there’s only one correct answer: Yes. Anything else is grounds for either a kick in the shins or an indefinite suspension from the cookout.​

Are you telling the Black community their outrage is reaching?

 

[fskimospy]

The Root: Nancy Pelosi Banged Her "All Lives Matter" Drum Despite Being Given the Perfect Opportunity to Do Otherwise

As has been proven time and time and time again, there’s only one correct answer: Yes. Anything else is grounds for either a kick in the shins or an indefinite suspension from the cookout.​

Are you telling the Black community their outrage is reaching?

Yup. If someone says they support you and your response is that they didn't say that they support you in the way you wanted then you're missing the point and what's important.

 

[dank69]

The Root: Nancy Pelosi Banged Her "All Lives Matter" Drum Despite Being Given the Perfect Opportunity to Do Otherwise

As has been proven time and time and time again, there’s only one correct answer: Yes. Anything else is grounds for either a kick in the shins or an indefinite suspension from the cookout.​

Are you telling the Black community their outrage is reaching?

It is an automatic emotional reaction at this point. There is no logic involved. Anyone who says "all lives matter" is going to get crucified whether they deserve it or not. A veteran representative should know this by now.

As for "telling the black community" anything, why would anyone ever do that? As a white person I wouldn't dream of telling "the white community" anything let alone a community I don't belong to.

Christ even the phrase "black community" doesn't mean anything. Some black people are outraged and some black people don't care and some think her comments were fine.

 

[zinfamous]

I think she should have known better than to utter the words "all lives matter." If you look at the context she clearly meant well but that phrase is like acid to African Americans since the alt-right made it their battle cry.

Pretty much this. It's just a stupid thing to say, even if her message didn't reflect the actual ignorant conservative battle cry of "all lives matter." I've seen her a few times at town hall events in recent years, and she is just godawful when responding to the general public.

I think she's very effective on capitol hill and playing politics with actual politicians, but the reason many on the left don't like her is that she seems completely distant from actual people--so much experience dealing with the people around her to get work done, that she has completely forgotten (if she ever knew) what it is like to live any other life and work with anyone that isn't a politician or lobbyist.

 

[ch33zw1z]

If we've learned anything since 2016, it's that's social media should be our go to for accurate and appropriate information, lol....

 

[zinfamous]

All Lives Matter is how you save and gather enough support for Black Lives Matter. For you to have a coalition large enough to make a difference... for #BLM. Speaking only to 12% of the population is not a winning strategy. Got to talk to everyone about the abuse of force and the need for reform, as it effects everyone.

However, Nancy shouldn't pretend she's speaking to everyone at all times. That young women needed a more direct approach. But given Nancy's age... I think she's lucky to remember her own name. I can forgive her for not being flexible. Shame on the DNC for being so damn old.

Again, this purposely ignores what "Black Lives Matter" actually means. The title and movement insist that all lives matter is assumed, as it is. The only point is that "Black Lives Matter, too." It's simply a reminder, because in practice, that clearly isn't the case when it comes to criminal justice and economic policy, throughout the history of this country. It is indisputable.

 

[brycejones]

Again, this purposely ignores what "Black Lives Matter" actually means. The title and movement insist that all lives matter is assumed, as it is. The only point is that "Black Lives Matter, too." It's simply a reminder, because in practice, that clearly isn't the case when it comes to criminal justice and economic policy, throughout the history of this country. It is indisputable.

It's sad how often this needs to be repeated.

 

[outriding]

#concerned_when_it_fits_my_narritive

 

[Jhhnn]

#concerned_when_it_fits_my_narritive

No shit, huh? Concern trolling the Democrats, hoping to spread some division & discontent.

 

[soulcougher73]

Do you agree with how she answered the question. Yes or no will suffice #waterboy.

Yes

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Man are you guys reaching.

I wonder if Nancy said she'd pay the legal fees for anyone who "removed" her.

 

[sactoking]

In the true spirit of UC, I didn't vote for Pelosi and also both sides, somehow.

 

[Jaskalas]

Christ even the phrase "black community" doesn't mean anything.

I figured the activists at The Root counted for something. Probably more than those ancient fossils up in DC.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I think she should have known better than to utter the words "all lives matter." If you look at the context she clearly meant well but that phrase is like acid to African Americans since the alt-right made it their battle cry.

Was that so hard?

She should have known better, and her choice of words is somewhat peculiar despite the word salad context that only dug the whole deeper.

Imagine Mitt Romney providing that same answer in that same venue, and we would be having a very different conversation.

Also, it should be acceptable to call out articles like the one posted from the Root.

 

[HomerJS]

Do you agree with how Pelosi answered the question? The comments in the MSNBC Twitter posting are certainly directing a lot of anger at her. It sounded like a Republican response.

I have no problem with the way she answered. I don't know why righties are so concerned for Nancy, they don't believe in the need for acknowledging the BLM premise.

 

[dank69]

Was that so hard?

She should have known better, and her choice of words is somewhat peculiar despite the word salad context that only dug the whole deeper.

Imagine Mitt Romney providing that same answer in that same venue, and we would be having a very different conversation.

Also, it should be acceptable to call out articles like the one posted from the Root.

I don't know that there is anything to call out. To me it sounded like they were calling her out for not knowing better than to inject the phrase. There was no need to do it, just say yes and move on. I actually just watched the clip of her answer now and it was a mess. It seemed to me she instantly realized what she had done and that's when all the fumbling around began.

The difference between Romney and Pelosi is that injecting the phrase is a popular dog whistle that energizes the conservative base while it has the opposite effect on liberals. With Romney you can never know if he made an honest mistake or if he meant to do it while maintaining plausible deniability. There is absolutely no upside for Pelosi to use that phrase.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I have no problem with the way she answered. I don't know why righties are so concerned for Nancy, they don't believe in the need for acknowledging the BLM premise.

Pelosi is the speaker of the House, and as such speaks for all Americans. The facial response from the young lady asking the question, and some of the opinion pieces written in response to Pelosi’s “poor” choice of words, indicates to me that there are some people who have no interest in a conversation, and only want to hear what their echo chamber feeds them.

Also, the right wing gloating and promoting of this story is dishonest in its intent.

 

[dank69]

Pelosi is the speaker of the House, and as such speaks for all Americans. The facial response from the young lady asking the question, and some of the opinion pieces written in response to Pelosi’s “poor” choice of words, indicates to me that there are some people who have no interest in a conversation, and only want to hear what their echo chamber feeds them.

Also, the right wing gloating and promoting of this story is dishonest in its intent.

I think the narrative that the student made some weird face is overblown. Viewing it in real-time she just seemed like nervous/restless. I didn't see the reaction that the Root author claimed to see. You can freeze frame a person to make it look like just about anything if you take the right frame.

 

[Jhhnn]

Also, the right wing gloating and promoting of this story is dishonest in its intent.

When were they any different?

 

[hal2kilo]

I have no problem with the way she answered. I don't know why righties are so concerned for Nancy, they don't believe in the need for acknowledging the BLM premise.

It kills me. For someone they think is a loser, the right is so concerned for how Pelosi is causing a schism in the Democratic party. The reality is they are really scared shitless of her.

 

[sportage]

And Donald Trump said he grabbed women by the WHAT?
Oh how soon we forget.
Believe me, there is nothing NOTHING Pelosi or any other democrat in congress can say or do that comes close to what we hear out of Donald Trump on a daily DAILY basis.
Talk about the two standard system.
Or is it that a mentally challenged moron does not need to be held accountable for what he says and does?
Like.... OH THAT DONALD. THERE HE GOES AGAIN. SILLY BOY.
And Nancy Pelosi dare wear red lipstick. WITCH! WITCH! BURN HER!

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Let’s not forgot,

“I like my War hero’s uncaptured”